What Soora 2:23 really says to SFE Talk?

Fuzzman has yet to give us any objective criteria so far. Where? Where are the objective criteria after so many pages? Is the Quran mad?

Fuzzman

Originally posted by SFE talk at 2003-11-12 08:44 AM:
Fuzzman has yet to give us any objective criteria so far. Where? Where are the objective criteria after so many pages? Is the Quran mad?

The Quran is not but I think you are. Don't be a lazy boy. I will not spoon feed you but will teach you to fish instead. The whole nine glorious pages of this 2:23 thread is filled to its brims with the brilliance of the objective criteria put forth by Fuzzman and yet you choose to behave like an illiterate raving lunatic by pretending that it's not there. Someone in the talent fratenity in Singapore should nominate you for an Oscar Award in the all new category of " new Asian con-fusion talent" in the area of extreme dumbness-dom and I guess you'll pass with flying colors. I'm sure Goh Chong Tok and the whole of Singapore will be mighty proud of you.

So please show me here I went wrong with regards to my perception of the objective criteria for the 2:23? If you cannot walk your talk, then just take a lonngg walk away from my thread. Comprende amigos!

ARI FUZZMAN

sonny~~

talk about pulling mr donkey to the stream for a drink
u can drag him there
but noway u can make him drink

likewise noway u can make bro deb***sfe admit he lost this one to u.  uh huh

he gonna wiggle waggle, repeating same question over n over agin, ending up brayin.  but thats about it

no offence meant.  cept the HARDtruth.
okie dokie o MODERATORS  :bg:

peace

Fuzzman

Originally posted by sonny~~ at 2003-11-12 05:41 PM:
talk about pulling mr donkey to the stream for a drink u can drag him there
but noway u can make him drink. likewise noway u can make bro deb***sfe admit he lost this one to u.  uh huh  he gonna wiggle waggle, repeating same question over n over agin, ending up brayin.  but thats about it no offence meant.  cept the HARDtruth. okie dokie o MODERATORS  ...

A very serious and precise observation by you here Sonny~~ dude and yet they say you're not matured. How people tend to misjudge you here as they too misjudge Jesus when he was on Earth as a human prophet. I see your HARDtruth is on par with the manner of Tim Sebastian's HARDTALK no frills straight shots.

ARI FUZZMAN

So where? Where are the objective criteria for the sura like it competition?

Fuzzman

Originally posted by SFE talk at 2003-11-12 11:19 PM:
So where? Where are the objective criteria for the sura like it competition?

See now you guys will see why SFE Talk deserves an Oscar in the category of best new Asian talent for his role as a extreme dumbkoff individual.

He knows that he cannot answer Fuzzman, so he resorts to playing dumb. Good for you SFE Talk. People will get to see a side of you that's always you! Hahahaahaha..

ARI FUZZMAN

[ Last edited by Fuzzman on 13-11-2003 at 01:11 AM ]

So where are the objective criteria? Fuzzman has yet to show us even one of those, he' s playing dumb here.
sura 2:23 challenge remains unintelligible.

sonny~~

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2003-11-13 12:52 AM:
See now you guys will see why SFE Talk deserves an Oscar in the category of best new Asian talent for his role as a extreme dumbkoff individual.

He knows that he cannot answer Fuzzman, so he resorts to playing dumb. Good for you SFE Talk. People will get to see a side of you that's always you! Hahahaahaha..

concur  

So sonny, pls show me where are the objective criteria for teh sura 2:23 challenge? Hahahahahahahahahaha.............

cheers

sonny~~

read thru the thread.  dont be lazy

prove to the world u have newton intelligence not buzzing fly intelligence  :bg:

peace

[ Last edited by sonny~~ on 13-11-2003 at 12:38 PM ]

I have been debating thru this thread and i see that no muslim have been able to make sura 2:23 intelligible.

Fuzzman

To the forumers that have been following this thread : It's time to cash in on SFE Talk's bluff and you guys have to make your stand here. Right now. So what Fuzzman's gonna do is really simple. Fuzzman's gonna let you guys decide on what you guys see as the truth. You've cruised through all nine pages by now and you'd probably get the hang of things and would some how know how your summary will work out. Time to put it down in print, once and for all. People power guys.

The two questions of the moment are this :
[1. Have I appended the perception for a objective criteria for soora 2:23 or not?

2. Has SFE Talk made any efforts in answering my challenge to him. Yes or No?

All you guys need to do is this:
For question 1, your reply should either be 1Y or 1N
For question 2, similiarly your reply should be either 2Y or 2N.

So the correct response would be this and only this for a census.
Sample answer : 1Y 2Y or 1N 2N or 1Y 2N or 1N 2Y.

if XYZ was responding to me request the answer in the reply box should be only this and no more :-

Originally posted by XYZ at 2003-11-15 4.00 PM.:
1Y 2N

Hope to see your opinions in real soon. Thanks a zillion guys.

ARI FUZZMAN

[ Last edited by Fuzzman on 13-11-2003 at 04:02 PM ]

sonny~~

1Y 2Y

Fuzzman

Come on fellas, don't tell me Sonny~~ is the only person speaking his mind here? I know for a fact that there are as much forumers and lurkers out there following this thread, so why not speak your minds? Here's your chance to call in SFE Talk's bluff, so take it. Thanks.

ARI FUZZMAN

Where? Where are the objective criteria for the sura 2:23 challenge?
No objective criteria, quran remains nonsesical.

After 9 pages, muslism refuse to make sense of sura 2:23.

cheers

Fuzzman

Originally posted by SFE talk at 2003-11-14 08:37 AM:
Where? Where are the objective criteria for the sura 2:23 challenge?
No objective criteria, quran remains nonsesical. After 9 pages, muslism refuse to make sense of sura 2:23. cheers

Joker! After nine pages and yet you're still evading my perception of the objective criteria of the 2:23. I chalenge you to pick off my perception piece by piece if you have the courage for it. C'mon SFE Talk. Just go make my day.

What 2:23 says :-
YUSUFALI: And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.
PICKTHAL: And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a surah of the like thereof, and call your witness beside Allah if ye are truthful.
SHAKIR: And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful.

And here is my case for the objective criteria for the 2:23.

THE CASE OF THE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA.
My perception of the objective criteria for the 2:23 is this :

" To create a chapter in similiarity or likeness to any chosen soora with the assistance of your helpers from your faith who are directly your witnesses if and when you are in doubt that the Quran was not from Allah but the creation of Prophet Mohammad."

So show me where I erred and I'll be more than willing to question your deduction.

ARI FUZZMAN

Well, so where are the objective criteria for a similar sura? Which sura do you want to compare? How abt the antui Jewish verses abt pigs and monkeys?

Fuzzman

Originally posted by SFE talk at 2003-11-14 08:46 PM:
Well, so where are the objective criteria for a similar sura? Which sura do you want to compare? How abt the antui Jewish verses abt pigs and monkeys?

The objective criteria of the 2:23 which I gave you is good to go for the Quran, as requested so by Allah. The invitation to create when only in doubt is for the Quran only and does not make mention of comparison with verses from other religious books. While you're trying so hard to slitter away, why not ask Fuzzman as to whether you could use material from the Eskimo Blubber Book which mentions seals, walruses, whales, polar bears and dolphins too?

You mean to say you STILL can't even comment intelligently on my perception of the objective criteria for the 2:23 ?

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

TAKE THE CALL SFE TALK.

ARI FUZZMAN

sonny~~

no way bro deb***sfe gonna take the call

hes gonna forced himself to stay contented with his repetitious "where" "where" hoping u gonna get bored n let the thread slide into oblivion

definitely not sir isaac newton's intelligence.  uh huh  :bg:

peace

Originally posted by SFE talk at 2003-11-14 08:46 PM:
Well, so where are the objective criteria for a similar sura? Which sura do you want to compare? How abt the antui Jewish verses abt pigs and monkeys?