V7 Kronologi Radar MH370

tekoyong

Acong posted on 12-3-2014 03:38 AM
rasa sejak kes 911 tu, rusia & china dah sign pakatan utk membantu sesama mereka jika diserang.... ...

so, whats the issue? tiada percanggahan pun

abgboroi

batmana posted on 11-3-2014 10:00 PM
mana bole, bik mama pun tk penah dijemput ke kokpit, dlm kapal tebang sndiri.
psl ni protokol, di ...

ehe...tapi x mustahil...tapi ikut pendapat kapten kelana...perkara ni sepatutnya x berlaku lagi sekarang diatas sebab2 keselamatan...

abgboroi

Haer posted on 11-3-2014 10:00 PM
Saya memang agak perempuan tu memang melebih lebihkan cerita jer. Konon dia tu cantik lah sampai p ...

biasa laa tu..nak impress kengkawan dia...ehe

Bedah.Cun

abgboroi posted on 11-3-2014 07:39 AM
setahu aku...setiap perkara ni mmg classified..not simply2 mereka nak reveal macam tu...radar yg k ...

i setuju dgn stetment kau, bang roi. I mean kalau x setuju pun dgn agency mane2 jgn dikondem nye negatif. Lagi elok kita bg cadangan atau komen yg membina sb isu ni pun bkn isu mudah... good.. good!

abgboroi

wi_haryati posted on 11-3-2014 09:59 PM
ntahnya, takde pulak gambo smokin bagai. tgk pun cam weng je minah tu.

nasib baik dia x cakap...kami mengisap ganja di kokpit...bersama sama pilot....

ismauzair

Baru terjaga dr tidur. Jom kita sama2 doakan unt mh370

abgboroi

Bedah.Cun posted on 12-3-2014 03:47 AM
i setuju dgn stetment kau, bang roi. I mean kalau x setuju pun dgn agency mane2 jgn dikondem nye n ...

tu ler bedah...bukan senang nak laporkan sesuatu...kalau main agak2 ajer...pastu bagi jawapan memuaskan semua pihak...kita tgk media barat pun takde masalah ngan laporan media msia sebab mereka tahu ada perkara mmg agak limited dan terlalu early utk diperkatakan...di china pun mereka menafikan menekan pihak msia terhadap insiden ni...semua org berkerja lebih dari biasa sekarang ni...24 jam...ini bukan perkara yg mudah...umpama mencari duit 5 sen dalam satu kawasan yg besar...sepatutnya kita bagi sokongan moral dan sokongan kepada mereka yg terlibat...bukan kondem macam2...

SayaSayangMama

ladyxez posted on 11-3-2014 11:28 PM
bagus ada jugak yang perasan ke pprt ian derang ni
sangat suka ambik kesempatan
yang MH dan Mal ...

Sy ada baca kes jual barang kemas kt beijing tu. Konon mnyamar anak tokeh siap bg cincin free tiap sorg. Bodoh2 je tipu org melayu. Ramai habis beribu2 kt situ.

apex

tak tau dah ada ke belum...malas nk selak page2 blakang..
tapi aku paling suka teori ni...logiknya ada...cuma bab teknikal je aku tk tau..kena tanya abang kelana...
sumber :
http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/post ... ndation-to-the-ntsb

My recommendation to the NTSB

I sent this email to Peter Knudson (Media Relations) at the NTSB, and he will consider if its worthy of forwarding onto investigators.
At the end of this email, I’ve listed sensible and low-cost recommendations to best aid recovery efforts.

===================================

Has anyone considered if the below FAA Airworthiness Directive could be a clue the MH370 investigation?
A November 2013 FAA Airworthiness Directive for the 777

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-09-26/html/2013-23456.htm

    SUMMARY: We propose to adopt a new airworthiness directive (AD) for

    certain The Boeing Company Model 777 airplanes. This proposed AD was
    prompted by a report of cracking in the fuselage skin underneath the
    satellite communication (SATCOM) antenna adapter. This proposed AD
    would require repetitive inspections of the visible fuselage skin and
    doubler if installed, for cracking, corrosion, and any indication of
    contact of a certain fastener to a bonding jumper, and repair if
    necessary. We are proposing this AD to detect and correct cracking and
    corrosion in the fuselage skin, which could lead to rapid decompression
    and loss of structural integrity of the airplane.

Summary: It’s plausible that a fuselage section near the SATCOM antenna adapter failed, disabling satellite based -  GPS, ACARS, and ADS-B/C - communications, and leading to a slow decompression that left all occupants unconscious. If such decompression left the aircraft intact, then the autopilot would have flown the planned route or otherwise maintained its heading/altitude until fuel exhaustion.
A slow decompression (e.g. from a golfball-sized hole) would have gradually impaired and confused the pilots before cabin altitude (pressure) warnings sounded.
Chain of events:

    Likely fuselage failure near SATCOM antenna adapter, disabling some or all of GPS, ACARS, ADS-B, and ADS-C antennas and systems.
    Thus, only primary radars would detect the plane. Primary radar range is usually less than 100nm, and is generally ineffective at high altitudes.

If the decompression was slow enough, it’s possible the pilots did not realize to put on oxygen masks until it was too late. (See Helios 522)

    Also explains why another Pilot thirty minutes ahead heard “mumbling” from MH370 pilots.
     (VHF comms would be unaffected by SATCOM equipment failure.)

With incapacitated pilots, the 777 could continue to fly on Autopilot - programmed to maintain cruise altitude and follow the programmed route. Using the Inertial Reference System (gyroscope based), the plane could navigate without needing GPS.
Other thoughts:

    The plane was equipped with cellular communication hardware, supplied by AeroMobile, to provide GSM services via satellite. However this is an aftermarket product; it’s not connected through SATCOM (as far as I know).
    This explains why 19 families signed a statement  alleging they were able to call the MH370 passengers and get their phones to ring, but with no response.
    When Malaysian Airlines tried to call the phone numbers a day later, the phones did not ring. By this time, fuel would have been exhausted.

Note:  777 Passenger Oxygen masks do not deploy until cabin altitude reaches 13,500. Passengers were likely already unconscious by then, if it was a slow decompression. Also remember that this flight was a red-eye, most passengers would be trying to sleep, masking alarming effects of oxygen deprivation. No confirmed debris has been found anywhere near the search area, consistent with the plane having flown for hours after it lost radar contact.
Conclusion:
This was likely not an “explosive decompression” or “inflight disintegration.” This was likely a slow decompression that gradually deprived all crew/passengers of oxygen, leaving the autopilot to continue along the route autonomously.
The aircraft may be at the floor of the East China Sea, Sea of Japan, or the Pacific Ocean thousands of miles northeast from the current search zone. [UPDATE: Basically, it could be “anywhere”, and we need to use any available radar records to help figure it out. This is where the Vietnamese/Malaysia civilian and military radars will help.]
Recommendations:
• Investigators should obtain data logs from primary radars throughout mainland China that would have been along the planned route. They may be the best clue as to the trajectory of the aircraft. Per the latest reported news, the Straight of Malacca is a possibility.
• Investigators should obtain all passengers’ cell phone log and location data. The timing of the last successful cellular connection (ring/SMS/data-packet) can predict how long the plane was in the air. iPhone/iOS location (GPS) data may be available from Apple if subpoenaed. Android location data may be available from Google.
• Add a secondary search space to include a 300nm radius around Beijing, focusing on surrounding bodies of water. Using planned routing trajectory, known autopilot logics, fuel quantities, and weather patterns, it may be possible to define a smaller 50nm * 50nm search space. Consider running the above scenario in MH’s 777-200ER full flight simulator.  
• Boeing should provide expertise about the SATCOM antenna schematics and autopilot/navigation logic, so as to help plot this second search space.

anishacute

Dah jumpa lom mh370 ni? Sori ai ketinggalan info sbb umah ai tv rosak.. 4 hari bukak tak tutup2.. lusa baru beli tv baru

abgboroi

anishacute posted on 12-3-2014 04:17 AM
Dah jumpa lom mh370 ni? Sori ai ketinggalan info sbb umah ai tv rosak.. 4 hari bukak tak tutup2.. lu ...

ko boleh semak dalam website macam astro awani...cnn.com semua tu...tapi paling menarik mmg cnn laa...banyak laporan dari pakar2 aviation mengenai kejadian ni...

dani-rox

kawan2, rupanya ada website yg crowdsourcing utk mencari kedudukan MH370 --> http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Tomnod
tadi ai try masuk sekejap, mula2 je okay tp lepas tuh server derang crashed la pulakk. ramai yg nak volunteer kot. kalau tak dpt gak dlm sejam dua nih, esok ingat nak cuba lg... apepon mari la kita bersama2 menyumbang tenaga locate pesawat kita yg hilang itew drpd buang masa bergaduh2 dan berborak sampai OT kat forum.

There’s A Crowdsourced Attempt To Locate The Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight

A Colorado satellite imaging company is asking the public for help analyzing high-resolution images.

DigitalGlobe has trained cameras from its five orbiting satellites on the Gulf of Thailand.



It is asking volunteers to log onto its Tomnod website and search for clues.



A computer algorithm will be used to determine whether users start tagging certain regions more than others.

Luke Barrington, senior manager of Geospatial Big Data for DigitalGlobe, told ABC News: “For people who aren’t able to drive a boat through the Pacific Ocean to get to the Malaysian peninsula, or who can’t fly airplanes to look there, this is a way that they can contribute and try to help out.

“We’ll say, ‘Here are our top ten suspicious or interesting locations. Is it really an aircraft wing that’s been chopped in half or is this some other debris floating on the ocean? We may not be 100% sure, but if this is where I had to go pick a location to go looking for needles in this big haystack, this is where I’d start."

Family members of passengers aboard Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 vote to set a deadline for the company to answer their requests at a hotel in Beijing, March 11, 2014.

It’s not the first time the site has been used for such a purpose.




It was used to map the devastation after Typhoon Haiyan struck the Philippines last November, with thousands helping identify more than 60,000 objects of interest of regions and landmarks that could have been affected within the first 24 hours.


http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/theres-a-crowdsourced-attempt-to-locate-the-missing-malaysia

anishacute

abgboroi posted on 12-3-2014 04:29 AM
ko boleh semak dalam website macam astro awani...cnn.com semua tu...tapi paling menarik mmg cnn la ...

Ok tq abang..

ida88

cmf_WonBin posted on 12-3-2014 01:16 AM
Saksi kedua nampak pesawat terbang rendah di Kelantan

- Pak Cik sedang tanam pokok cili di Tumpa ...

Sdg tanam pokok cili? Pagi bute tanam pokok cili
Kalau yg pakcik nelayan tu faham la gak kerjaya die yg tak kire mase

lurve82

tekoyong posted on 12-3-2014 02:36 AM
tak lengkap lagi tu

ini yang terlengkap, walaupun ada lagi yg tertinggal sebab mod kat sana dah ...

Sorry nk tanya...apa rundingan kat nanning tu? Dlm kronologi tu xde pun...interesting utk baca...betul ke teori leletih tu yg kata flight berpatah blik sblm keluar berita?

lurve82

LordDenning posted on 12-3-2014 03:14 AM
leletih dgn si rerambut dah kena ban kelmarin

Kenapa dorg kne ban? Ramai je lg yg buat spekulasi...

Acong

warga china terhantar sampai ke india????

ladida

Tak sure da ada info nie ke tak....Fariq Co Pilot tu penah bergambo dgn Head of CNN...CNN owned by Yahudi katanya...conspiracy CNN and yahudi nak lumpohkan China & Russia but thru Malaysia Airline?  Waalahualam....jgn lahar aku la plak buat conspiracy pprt ahkak pakai tudong Fareeda sunni whatsoever yer....aku just sharing is caring kan...

kambeng_masam

apex posted on 11-3-2014 11:07 PM
tak tau dah ada ke belum...malas nk selak page2 blakang..
tapi aku paling suka teori ni...logiknya  ...

This is the best logical theory I've ever read since day one! It may explains all. Dan pilot sedar something was wrong dengan communication serta sistem radarnya, get ATB, but lack of oxygen made it difficult to stay conscious...Capt Zaharie could be passed out earlier leaving Capt Fariq maneuvering alone and was mumbling when being contacted by another B777 enroute to Japan? Then according to report by RMAF regarding military radar, MH370 was flying 1000ft below the previous altitude which was at 35000ft when the jetliner passing Kota Bharu heading to Malacca Straits. Noted that, few police reports has been made by several eye/earwitnesses in Kelantan & Terengganu regarding the matter.

If that's the case, the searching area may be included as far as Indian Ocean! Yes, MH370 could have been flying passing through Sumatera Island heading to the southwest. We're talking about the almost-similar case with Helios 522 here...slow cabin decompression, all on board unconscious, plane flying under autopilot until fuel exhausted.

Oxygen contents in air less than 19% will make a person tends to get sleepy and discomfort...and further... brain damage due to lack of oxygen supply to the brain...but of course a person will fell unconscious before he/she could suffer the pain.

a bit understanding about cabin decompression and lack of oxygen;

Need for cabin pressurization[edit]Pressurization becomes necessary at altitudes above 12,500 feet (3,800 m) to 14,000 feet (4,300 m) above sea level to protect crew and passengers from the risk of a number of physiological problems caused by the low outside air pressure above that altitude; it also serves to generally increase passenger comfort. The principal physiological problems are as follows:

Hypoxia. The lower partial pressure of oxygen at altitude reduces the alveolar oxygen tension in the lungs and subsequently in the brain, leading to sluggish thinking, dimmed vision, loss of consciousness, and ultimately death. In some individuals, particularly those with heart or lung disease, symptoms may begin as low as 5,000 feet (1,500 m), although most passengers can tolerate altitudes of 8,000 feet (2,400 m) without ill effect. At this altitude, there is about 25% less oxygen than there is at sea level.[2] Hypoxia may be addressed by the administration of supplemental oxygen, either through an oxygen mask or through a nasal cannula. Without pressurization, sufficient oxygen can be delivered up to an altitude of about 40,000 feet (12,000 m). This is because a person who is used to living at sea level needs about 0.20 bar partial oxygen pressure to function normally and that pressure can be maintained up to about 40,000 feet (12,000 m) by increasing the mole fraction of oxygen in the air that is being breathed. At 40,000 feet (12,000 m) the ambient air pressure falls to about 0.2 bar and to maintain a minimum partial pressure of oxygen of 0.2 bar requires breathing 100% oxygen using an oxygen mask. Emergency oxygen supply masks in the passenger compartment of airliners do not need to be pressure-demand masks because most flights stay below 40,000 feet (12,000 m). Above that altitude the partial pressure of oxygen will fall below 0.2 bar even at 100% oxygen and some degree of cabin pressurisation or rapid descent is essential to avoid the risk of hypoxia.

Altitude sickness. Hyperventilation, the body’s most common response to hypoxia, does help to partially restore the partial pressure of oxygen in the blood, but it also causes carbon dioxide (CO2) to out-gas, raising the blood pH and inducing alkalosis. Passengers may experience fatigue, nausea, headaches, sleeplessness, and (on extended flights) even pulmonary oedema. These are the same symptoms that mountain climbers experience, but the limited duration of powered flight makes the development of pulmonary oedema unlikely. Altitude sickness may be controlled by a full pressure suit with helmet and faceplate, which completely envelops the body in a pressurized environment; this is impractical for commercial passengers.

Decompression sickness. The low partial pressure of gases, principally nitrogen (N2) but including all other gases, may cause dissolved gases in the bloodstream to precipitate out, resulting in gas embolism or bubbles in the bloodstream. The mechanism is the same as for compressed-air divers on ascent from depth. Symptoms may include the early symptoms of "the bends"—tiredness, forgetfulness, headache, stroke, thrombosis, and subcutaneous itching—but rarely the full symptoms of the bends. Decompression sickness may also be controlled by a full-pressure suit as for altitude sickness.

Barotrauma. As the aircraft climbs or descends, passengers may experience discomfort or acute pain as gases trapped within their bodies expand or contract. The most common problems occur with air trapped in the middle ear (aerotitus) or paranasal sinuses by a blocked Eustachian tube or sinuses. Pain may also be experienced in the gastrointestinal tract or even the teeth (barodontalgia). Usually these are not severe enough to cause actual trauma but can result in soreness in the ear that persists after the flight and can exacerbate or precipitate pre-existing medical conditions, such as pneumothorax.

Pressurization of the cargo hold is also required to prevent damage to pressure-sensitive goods that might leak, expand, burst or be crushed on re-pressurization.

tongkatwaran75

anaktoyol posted on 11-3-2014 10:44 PM
Soal bawak penumpang dalam kokpit ni jangan di perbesarkan wooooo...sbb ada artis yg di bawak masuk  ...

Bahaya woii bawak pompuan ke COCK PIT....