Why muslims shiver over the idea of freedom of religion ???

sam1528

wkk5159 posted on 13-12-2013 03:45 PM
Muhammad: A Rapist                                       
Muhammad allowed his men to rape the wom ...

Hmm lets see tha hadith :

Abu Saeed said: “We went out with Allâh's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allâh's Apostle who is present among us?"  We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."

Where does it say go ahead and rape? The people asked the prophet about coitus interruptus and he answered in kind. Nobody told Prophet Muhammad(saw) that they intended to do such with the captives. You are again arguing from your fantasy. For the umpteenth time : Fantasies don't count.

Where does it say it is legal to have sexual intercourse with slaves and captives? Every muslim knows that it is illegal

In our view the man who rapes a woman, regardless of whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a "dowry" like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case.  (Imam Maalik, Al-Muwatta', Volume 2, page 734)

"If a man acquires by force a slave-girl, then has sexual intercourse with her after he acquires her by force, and if he is not excused by ignorance, then the slave-girl will be taken from him, he is required to pay the fine, and he will receive the punishment for illegal sexual intercourse." (Imam Al Shaafi'i, Kitaabul Umm, Volume 3, page 253)

I don't understand what is your argument about Juwairiya(ra) and Saffiya(ra)? They married Prophet Muhammad(saw). Where is the rape in all these?

As for Rayhana , the most authentic version is that she was freed and went back to her people according to Hafiz Minda and Shibli Nomani concurred (The Life of the Prophet. Vol. II, pg. 125–6)

Again , nothing from you but just trying to throw dung to a wall and hoping something would stick.

Are you not embarrassed that you are easily exposed to be a liar? Any normal person would be embarrassed

sam1528

wkk5159 posted on 13-12-2013 04:20 PM
Muhammad: A Lecher           
          I accuse Muhammad of lewdness, impropriety, indecency, lust ...

It is again so easy to refute your copy paste from 'faithfreedon' and / or 'answering islam'. You have lied. Mary the Copt married Prophet Muhammad(saw).

It is, however, surprising that Maulana Maududi and many other Muslim scholars never took notice of the following report which clearly states of the marriage of the Prophet to Mary the Coptic:

"It is reported from 'Abdullah al-Zubairi who said: that after this the Noble Prophet married (tazawwaju)  Mariah daughter of Sham'un.  This is the same Mariyah who was sent by Maqauqis, the ruler of Alexandria to the Prophet as a gift" (Sahih al-Mustadarak Hakim Vol. iv, as quoted in Namus, p. 86).

It must be borne in mind that in Maulana Maududi's view the word azwaj (wives) according to the common usage in the Arabic language and in the Qur'anic terminology is only used for women who have been properly married (Tafhim-ul-Qur'an, Vol. iii, under verses 23: 5-7).   In the above report a derivative of zwj  (tazawwaju - he married) has been used.  What other historical proof is needed to establish the point that Mary the Coptic was a wife of the Prophet in a proper sense?

Your long copy paste is now irrelevant as You have been caught lying. This is just too easy ....

For your reading pleasure : Point by point refutation

Oops - liar liar pants on fire

sam1528

wkk5159 posted on 13-12-2013 04:34 PM
Muhammad: A Pedophile

Muhammad “married” Aisha when she was six years old.          'A'isha (A ...

Another copy paste from answering Islam? Do you know that the said author did not even complete his high school education? I wouldn't trust such person with no education whatsoever.

All the hadith you presented agreed that Prophet Muhammad(saw) married Aishah(ra) when she was 6 , did not stay with her and then consummated the marriage when she turned 9. Again I have caught you trying to lie and being an ignoramus.

The following is the hadith in which narrated by Aishah(ra)

When the girl reaches nine years of age, she is a woman. (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, Kitab: al-Nikah, Bab: Maa Jaa'a fee Ikraah Al Yateemah 'alaa al tazweej, Hadith no. 1027, Source)

Shaikh Abdur-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri in his commentary on Sunan al-Tirmidhi said:

Aisha knew (that she hit puberty) when she became nine years old. (Shaikh Abdur-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri, Tuhfat AI-Ahwadhi, Kitab: al-Nikah, Bab: Maa Jaa'a fee Ikraah Al Yateemah 'alaa al tazweej, Hadith no. 1027, Source)

Aishah(ra) herself confirmed that she had attained puberty. Two things you have blundered here
(1) You have condemn your own bible in exe16:7-8. Maybe you need to be born again (another time) christian
(2) Even the Christians of Najran and the Jews did not condemn Prophet Muhammad(saw) marriage to Aishah(ra) because it was the culture at that time. You've committed the fallacy of presentism.

BTW do you know the definition of pedophilia? Can you explain what is pedophilia? I am sure you being a 'true professional in the medical field and a specialist in your own field (dunno which field)' have a bit of knowledge of what is pedophilia. Yes? Give it a try

What do you think of
(1) biblical Isaac(40) married and had sex with biblical Rebekah(3)?

you would come to realise that the Mishnah gave approval for a Man to have intercourse to a betrothed girl, anytime after the age of three years old.

Isaac’s wife was Rebecca, mother of Jacob and Esua. According the calculations made by Rabbi Solomon Itzhaki (A.K.A. Rashi a well-known respected Jewish Scholar), Rebecca was three years old when she married Isaa

(2) Your God , the 'Holy Spirit' raped biblical Mary per luk1:36 so that the 'son of God' in biblical Jesus to be born

Once the preliminary requirements laid down in the agreement of betrothal were satisfied, nuptials followed: they were presumed to take place within twelve months from the date of agreement. Then the bridegroom led his bride to his own home amid solemn festivities attended by family, friends and neighbours. The Gospels contain various parables about Jewish weddings (see for example Mt 25:1-13). It would follow from these rules, which appear standard and long standing, and not some kind of innovation by the redactors of the Mishnah, that at the time of the incidents described in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, Mary was no more than twelve years old or conceivably a little less, and by the standards of her society and age, mature enough for marriage (Jesus by Geza Vermes , Penguin Books, 2010, p. 64-65)

In this case was biblical Joseph a pedophile? However the 'Holy Spirit' got to her before biblical Joseph. That poor man ....

Observe folks , desperate Christians like 'wkk5159' will never answer. They simply run off and come back again with the same refuted arguments pretending nothing happened. Such is the poor scholarship of christians like 'wkk5159'. Embarrassing isn't it?