aku nak tanya muslims...

Truth.8

mashimaru83 posted on 28-11-2013 11:28 PM
Oh dear. "another coming twisted tounge that islam do not allowed it" statement by y ...

Oh dear. "another coming twisted tounge that islam do not allowed it" statement by you is not even an evidence! Who is that another???
And who said marriage is Scared? Is that a made up opinion or according to the Bible? Even you yourself contradicted the Bible.

are u sayings that when muslims get married they never  use allah name and quran?
when Christians married,  they used Bible and  God name....the marriage is considered sacred..let me explained:

Marriage is unique, because it is confined to human beings alone. It was intended by God to be unique and unmatched. As God designed it, there is nothing earthly that compares to it, and there is nothing in heaven or earth that can change or dismiss it from existing.

Biblical marriage is sacred and is a witness to the sacredness of God, because like God it is absolute, exclusive, pure, and unchangeable, demanding respect and adherence. It is a sacred law established by God, whereby, He is the designer, ruler, and judge over, possessing consequences

“But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife: And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder” (Mark 10:6-9, KJV).(Hebrews 13:4). Any law established by man can never supersede nor alter it.

When Muhammad came with divorce with talak and 4 wives....it already made changes in GOD law...hence, muhammad is not prophet  nor seals of all prophets.. maybe muslims men view womens as an object rather than giving respect with GOD law..

ct_og

Cepat betul Truth.8 ni lupa dengan kata-kata dia sendiri. Dia sendiri yang kata seperti berikut :

sah kamu ini memang cacat akal...adakah islam membentuk kamu begitu?
mai aku cerita pasal  adam:

Adam di cipta dengan tanah.....termasuk kita semua...

Bila saya ceritakan kejadian manusia kini berpandukan sains dan ayat ql-Quran maka dia berkata pula :

ia lah manusia akan lahir semua dari air mani ...asal manusia ..( original man) dtg dari mana??? tanah kan....

SAh.. kamu tu memang lidah berbelit... patutlah ada yang memanggil kamu 'SNAKE'...

Yesus bukan hasil dari seks....
jadi , antara adam dan Yesus jauh berbeza..
maka Yesus adalah Tuhan

Telah saya jelaskan bahawa Nabi Isa as itu lahir dari Kalimah Allah manakala Yesus kamu tu manusia biasa yang Allah tukar rupa dia menjadi Nabi Isa, disalibkan lalu kamu sembah menjadi Tuhan. Kamu telah mensyirikkan Allah maka tunggu saja balasan neraka Allah jika kamu tidak mahu bertaubat.

Truth.8

ct_og posted on 29-11-2013 12:50 PM
Cepat betul Truth.8 ni lupa dengan kata-kata dia sendiri. Dia sendiri yang kata seperti berikut :

...

Bila saya ceritakan kejadian manusia kini berpandukan sains dan ayat ql-Quran maka dia berkata pula :

ia lah manusia akan lahir semua dari air mani ...asal manusia ..( original man) dtg dari mana??? tanah kan....

tak kan DIA asyik nak buat kita dari tanah aja....jadi          permulaaan itu DIA membuat manusia dari tanah lah..... sah kau cacat    akal

SAh.. kamu tu memang lidah berbelit... patutlah ada yang memanggil kamu 'SNAKE'...

snake? kamu tahu defensi snake itu????

Telah saya jelaskan bahawa Nabi Isa as itu lahir dari Kalimah Allah manakala Yesus kamu tu manusia biasa yang Allah tukar rupa dia menjadi Nabi Isa, disalibkan lalu kamu sembah menjadi Tuhan. Kamu telah mensyirikkan Allah maka tunggu saja balasan neraka Allah jika kamu tidak mahu bertaubat.

itu neraka ? sedangkan  seluruh muslims ..mungkin dlm 90%  yg duduk di banda ached    di musnahkan...kamu kata tunggu aja neraka??? akhirat nanti kamu tahu lah

ct_og

By truth.8 :

tak kan DIA asyik nak buat kita dari tanah aja....jadi          permulaaan itu DIA membuat manusia dari tanah lah..... sah kau cacat    akal

hehehe... teruknya Tuhan kamu... sampai nak buat manusia pun tak larat... hanya sangup buat satu manusia je dari tanah...

Allah, Tuhan kami Maha Sempurna. Dia boleh buat apa sahaja mengikut kehendak Nya. Kekuasaan Allah amat besar tiada tandingan....  Dia buat Nabi Adam as dari Tanah dan Dia buat manusia lain dari air manusia supaya manusia berfikir... hanya yang tak punya akal sempurna macam kamu je yang tak tahu sebabnya...

itu neraka ? sedangkan  seluruh muslims ..mungkin dlm 90%  yg duduk di banda ached    di musnahkan...kamu kata tunggu aja neraka??? akhirat nanti kamu tahu lah

Apa yang berlaku di dunia ini adalah peringatan kepada kita yang masih hidup supaya bertaubat kepada Allah. Kata Allah pada kamu :

Katakanlah : “Tunggulah kamu akan apa yang kamu tuduh itu maka sesungguhnya aku juga dari orang-orang yang menunggu bersama-sama kamu akan apa yang dijanjikan oleh Allah Taala.” (At-Tur : 31)

Truth.8

ct_og posted on 29-11-2013 06:09 PM
By truth.8 :

hehehe... teruknya Tuhan kamu... sampai nak buat manusia pun tak larat... hanya sangup buat satu manusia je dari tanah...

sah kamu memang sakit atau cacat akal....
DIA membuat manusia pertama dari tanah...itu pun tak paham??

Allah, Tuhan kami Maha Sempurna. Dia boleh buat apa sahaja mengikut kehendak Nya. Kekuasaan Allah amat besar tiada tandingan....  Dia buat Nabi Adam as dari Tanah dan Dia buat manusia lain dari air manusia supaya manusia berfikir... hanya yang tak punya akal sempurna macam kamu je yang tak tahu sebabnya...

jadi manusia yg bernama adam tidak boleh fikir? hanya manusia dari air  boleh berfikir??? jadi , saya tak boleh berfikir sebab saya keturungan dari adam?  nasib lah saya tidak terima islam...kalau saya terima islam...saya akan fikir  macam kau .....macam tidak berakal utk membezakan ..

mashimaru83

Truth.8 posted on 29-11-2013 10:26 AM
are u sayings that when muslims get married they never  use allah name and quran?
when Christia ...

I don't have issue with 'marriage as sacred'.

The issue here is you pointing out that the marriage up to 4 wives and divorce in Islam are big issues. So far you only brought up the divorce rate among the muslims. The article itself never mentioned anything that shows the issue was due to flaw in Islamic teachings.

Truth.8:
When Muhammad came with divorce with talak and 4 wives....it already made changes in GOD law...hence, muhammad is not prophet  nor seals of all prophets.. maybe muslims men view womens as an object rather than giving respect with GOD law..

Well, Biblical Jesus also changed the law. According to you, divorce was allowed during Moses (pbuh) time (under certain circumstances). And also according to you, the law was changed such that the divorce was no longer allowed AT ALL during Jesus (pbuh) time. And then, you came along and said this in post #39:

Truth.8:
as for my faith...we not allow to marry more than 1 wife....if not happy , divorce and marry another...

Are you changing the law again? If not, why did you use the law during Moses time?
Why it is okay for Jesus (pbuh) to change the law but not Muhammad (pbuh) although both of them received the commandments from God?

Truth.8

mashimaru83 posted on 1-12-2013 07:32 AM
I don't have issue with 'marriage as sacred'.

The issue here is you pointing out that the marriag ...

I don't have issue with 'marriage as sacred'.

The issue here is you pointing out that the marriage up to 4 wives and divorce in Islam are big issues. So far you only brought up the divorce rate among the muslims. The article itself never mentioned anything that shows the issue was due to flaw in Islamic teachings.

I am talking about the verses that one not divorce....if Christians divorce ...actually is not allowed according to Bible sayings..

Well, Biblical Jesus also changed the law. According to you, divorce was allowed during Moses (pbuh) time (under certain circumstances). And also according to you, the law was changed such that the divorce was no longer allowed AT ALL during Jesus (pbuh) time. And then, you came along and said this in post #39:

Jesus came to put stop to this nonsense....

Truth.8:
as for my faith...we not allow to marry more than 1 wife....if not happy , divorce and marry another...

as for my statments...I am sorry    overlook ...so is my error...but am i prophet or Jesus....no...so one should keep to Jesus final words..

Are you changing the law again? If not, why did you use the law during Moses time?
Why it is okay for Jesus (pbuh) to change the law but not Muhammad (pbuh) although both of them received the commandments from God?

I am not changing the law...it was my mistake by saying so...as Bible reading...we should keep to the final word of Jesus..not muhammad.. muhammad did not get from God.... he did changes or maybe your quran already  fabricated .. thats what I heard from syiah that  after muhammad dead his friend did changes in quran..

mashimaru83

Truth.8 posted on 1-12-2013 09:42 AM
I am talking about the verses that one not divorce....if Christians divorce ...actually is not all ...

@Truth.8
I am not changing the law...it was my mistake by saying so...as Bible reading...we should keep to the final word of Jesus..not muhammad.. muhammad did not get from God.... he did changes or maybe your quran already  fabricated .. thats what I heard from syiah that  after muhammad dead his friend did changes in quran..

'Someone say so' is not a proper evidence. Please substantiate your statement with proper evidence.

You rejected Al-Quran without a prove that it is a human fabrication, but at the same time you embraced Bible which techinically proven by Christian scholars that it has fabricated verses; why did you contradict yourself?

Truth.8

mashimaru83 posted on 1-12-2013 11:21 AM
'Someone say so' is not a proper evidence. Please substantiate your statement with proper evidence ...

Someone say so' is not a proper evidence. Please substantiate your statement with proper evidence.

You rejected Al-Quran without a prove that it is a human fabrication, but at the same time you embraced Bible which techinically proven by Christian scholars that it has fabricated verses; why did you contradict yourself?

The so called christian scholar are not a scholar at all...we have many who are Christian scholar   and claimed it is original... who are the   christian scholar? Please substantiate your statement with proper evidence.

ArianPutra

makin di baca makin nak tergelak2 pulak akuu..

Truth.8

ArianPutra posted on 15-12-2013 07:20 PM
makin di baca makin nak tergelak2 pulak akuu..

adakah  kau tergelak semasa banda ache di musnakan di mana penduduk 90% semua muslims

ArianPutra

Truth.8 posted on 17-12-2013 01:20 PM
adakah  kau tergelak semasa banda ache di musnakan di mana penduduk 90% semua muslims

aku tergelak kerana terlamu banyak kebodohan