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Satu soalan :-
Mana ada tulis bahawa firman itu adalah mengenai Muhammad? Tak ada sebarang nama yg di katakan ataupun siapakah kaum dr mana Nabi itu akan muncul dari.
Macamana kamu boleh mengatakan bahawa firman itu adalah mengenai Muhammad tanpa sebarang indikasi akan siapakah yg dimaksudkan itu?
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Sephiroth posted on 21-1-2013 09:29 AM 
Satu soalan :-
Mana ada tulis bahawa firman itu adalah mengenai Muhammad? Tak ada sebarang nama y ...
Mengikut Bible Indonesia, Al-Kitab disebut dalam buku Deuteronomy (Ulangan) bab 18 ayat 18 hingga 19 iaitu;
Seorang nabi akan Kubangkitkan bagi mereka daripada saudara mereka, seperti engkau ini; Aku akan menaruh firman-Ku dalam mulutnya, dan ia akan mengatakan kepada mereka segala yang Ku-perintahkan kepadanya. Orang yang tidak mendengarkan segala firman-Ku yang akan diucapkan nabi itu demi nama-Ku, daripadanya akan Ku-tuntut pertanggungjawaban
Begitu juga disebut dalam John ayat 26 bermaksud “Sekiranya Penghibur yang akan aku utus daripada Bapa datang…Ia akan bersaksi mengenai aku”. Justeru, dia adalah identiti berlainan yang menjadi saksi mengenai Nabi Isa.
**Source from: http://mindaahad.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/kerasulan-muhammad-dalam-bible-bukti-78-9-akhir/
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Cuai posted on 22-1-2013 03:18 PM
Mengikut Bible Indonesia, Al-Kitab disebut dalam buku Deuteronomy (Ulangan) bab 18 ayat 18 hingg ...
Firman itu kata "Seorang Nabi" bukannya "nabi yg bernama Muhammad" ataupun dr golongan Arab.
Lagi satu, Deuteronomy is kitab yg diturunkan kpd orang Yahudi, jadi Nabi yg diramalkan akan datang itu semestinya turun dr golongan Yahudi, dan bukannya orang Arab yg merupakan golongan yg berbeza dr orang Yahudi yg datangnya dr negara Mesir Purba.
Jadi, tak ada bukti ketara yg mengatakan bahawa firman tersebut adalah mengenai Muhammad.
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BIBLE AKUI KEBENARAN NABI MUHAMMAD SAW ???? Setahu saya Bible ada menyebut tentang kemunculan nabi palsu seperti Muhammad, kebenaran ???? 
Mengapa dari masa ke semasa ada muslim "simpleton" yang asyik mengudarakan sesuatu yang bukan satu isu kepada kristian tetapi muslim. Jelas sekali muslim sebagai penganut kedua terbesar di dunia tetapi adalah paling mundur dari segi kesemua aspek kehidupan, baik penemuan sains, perubatan, sosial-ekonomi, hak asasi manusia, hak wanita dan kanak-kanak, pendidikan, dan sbgnya....For the record, pada 2012, negara Islam yang paling baik dalam ranking Corruption Perception Index oleh transparency International adalah Qatar dan UAE, itupun di tangga 27 & 28... http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2012/
Matt 27:46 ??? Come on, do you do cross reference with psalm 22 and John 19:20 ?? This only reinforced Jesus status as prophesied messiah......unlike some false prophets....
Matt 15:24 ??? Let's see... He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
Muslims understand this to be mean that Jesus was a prophet for the Jews only, and that his disciples were therefore also only sent to the Jews. From this they argue further that the teachings of Jesus are not for Gentiles and that the Gospel cannot therefore be a universal religion - like Islam. Or Is it ?
Let us look at the context of the verse. Jesus healed the Syrophoenecian woman's daughter - a Gentile! Jesus delivered a demonized Canaanite (Mark 7:24-37). Later, we see Cornelius coming to faith, after Peter preached of Jesus (Acts 10; especially vss. 34-48). Paul was an Apostle to the Gentiles (Acts 9:15; Rom 1:5-6). As John sates, "He is the atoning sacrifice for our [elect Jews] sins, and not only for ours [elect Jews] but also for the sins of the whole world [elect Gentiles]" (1 John 2:2). Apparently, there was a ministry to Gentiles well before Mohammed.
So, if Jesus (in part) and the Early Church ministered to Gentiles, what did Jesus mean by, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel"?
Prior to the resurrection, the "dividing wall" (Eph 2:14) between Jew and Gentile still stood and at this point Jesus' mission was to "Israel" as defined by the Old Testament ordinances. Jesus ministered to this woman's request in Matthew 15 only after clear evidence that she no longer thought of any claim to the covenant mercies; rather she hoped to benefit from the overflow of the blessings promised to Israel (an overflow seen even as Gentiles were saved in the Old Testament Rehab the Harlot, foriegn servants that dwelt with Israel, etc). After the resurrection though the engrafting of the Gentiles began on a more full-scale level by the command of Christ himself (Matt 28:18-20; Mark 16:15; Acts 1:8). This was God's eternal plan (Abraham the father of many nations - Gen 17:5, 15-16; Rom 4:17). God as the divine Potter is free not only to choose Jews, but Gentiles as well:
Romans 9:24-26 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? As he says in Hosea: "I will call them 'my people' who are not my people; and I will call her 'my loved one' who is not my loved one," and, "In the very place where it was said to them, 'You are not my people,' there they will be called 'children of the living God.'
Part of God's restorative plan for elect Israel is to provoke them to jealousy. He began this early in the church (Acts 1:8):
Romans 11:11, 13-14because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them (cf. vs. 25-27).
Clearly the Early Church and even Christ himself ministered to Gentiles.
Ahmad Deedat ?? Badut yang sudah meninggal pada 2005 akibat stroke tu ?? Untuk hujah-hujahnya yang senang lenang disangkal oleh http://answering-islam.org/rebuttals/deedat.html. |
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Sephiroth posted on 23-1-2013 02:27 PM
Firman itu kata "Seorang Nabi" bukannya "nabi yg bernama Muhammad" ataupun dr golongan Arab.
La ...
Nampaknya saudara ni lebih celik tentang Koran dari pengikut-pengikut Mu-ham-Mad......
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All the equipments used in that video footage are made by non-muslims, from the electron microscope to the video camera....furthermore islam says that sperms are produced in chest not testicle ! Quran86:5-7
Who in their right mind will embrace islam after finding out the truth ? 
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wkk5159 posted on 25-1-2013 05:13 PM 
All the equipments used in that video footage are made by non-muslims, from the electron microscop ...
and seems that you are now moving to another thread after being caught with your pants down by Mr Sam huh? lolz |
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Cuai posted on 25-1-2013 07:02 PM
and seems that you are now moving to another thread after being caught with your pants down by M ...
O thanx for reminding about that science iliterate Sam, what a match made in hell.......
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Post time 21-1-2013 09:29 AM
