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Post time 27-10-2006 08:43 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 18-10-2006 01:44 PM



How does that prove God does not exist?



Well, he either does not exist, or he does not love that poor little dying child. Which do you prefer?

Debmey, it is up to you to explain to us how you know anything about this alledged God. Tell us what you know about God.

I claim that the Universe does just fine with out any kind of God. That God is not necessary to explain the existence of the Universe or our presence on the surface of the planet earth. We are here, and the Universe exists because that is the way it is, always has been and always will be. A sun will expode creating new materials for more suns and life on planets. it just goes on and on for ever.

You want to add a God to this. Why?



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Post time 27-10-2006 08:55 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hERICtic_algon at 27-10-2006 08:43 AM
Well, he either does not exist, or he does not love that poor little dying child. Which do you prefer?

Wrong assumption.
Just because he exists does not mean he needs to save every dying child.
But if he doesn't exist, how does life come about? Either he exists or there is no life, which do you prefer?



Debmey, it is up to you to explain to us how you know anything about this alledged God. Tell us what you know about God.

What do you want to know about him? Do you have a copy of the Bible?




I claim that the Universe does just fine with out any kind of God. That God is not necessary to explain the existence of the Universe or our presence on the surface of the planet earth. We are here, and the Universe exists because that is the way it is, always has been and always will be. A sun will expode creating new materials for more suns and life on planets. it just goes on and on for ever.

How can the universe or the sun exist when there is no creator? How can life come out of dead matter? Please explain.
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Post time 30-10-2006 07:00 PM | Show all posts
What do you want to know about him? Do you have a copy of the Bible?


How do you know that the Bible has anything to do with God?

Which Bible? Catholic, Protestant, Hebrew, Eastern Orthodox?

I believe in an inerrant God, not an inerrant Bible - for how does one know which Bible is inerrant when there is such a variety?



How can the universe or the sun exist when there is no creator? How can life come out of dead matter? Please explain.


First you'll have to explain what you are talking about in this question...what is "dead matter".

The universe simply exists infinitely....thats it....the law of cause and effect allows for no other possibility.

You can call the universe god if you want to...but, well, a rose by any other name is still a god-darned rose.

What, you can't look it up on some evolution websites, or at least Wikipedia? There is no EVIDENCE to support your magic-man in the sky, Debmey! Every piece of EVIDENCE we find tells us that all living things evolved! Show us some EVIDENCE proving otherwise, something we can look at under microscopes and examine scientifically and say, "Yep, that's a god, alright." After that, we will determine which of the 10,000 or so gods that mankind worships or has worshipped, is responsible for the EVIDENCE you have presented.


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Post time 30-10-2006 08:45 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hERICtic_algon at 30-10-2006 07:00 PM


How do you know that the Bible has anything to do with God?

Which Bible? Catholic, Protestant, Hebrew, Eastern Orthodox?

I believe in an inerrant God, not an inerrant Bible - for how does one know which Bible is inerrant when there is such a variety?

Let me get you right.
So you do believe God exist right?



First you'll have to explain what you are talking about in this question...what is "dead matter".

dead matter has no life.




The universe simply exists infinitely....thats it....the law of cause and effect allows for no other possibility.

No, the law of cause and effect say there must be a cause or creator for an effect or a universe in this case.
How can the universe come about w/o cause? Looks like you don't even understand what you quoted.






You can call the universe god if you want to...but, well, a rose by any other name is still a god-darned rose.

So you pray to the universe? How opften do you do that?





What, you can't look it up on some evolution websites, or at least Wikipedia? There is no EVIDENCE to support your magic-man in the sky, Debmey! Every piece of EVIDENCE we find tells us that all living things evolved! Show us some EVIDENCE proving otherwise, something we can look at under microscopes and examine scientifically and say, "Yep, that's a god, alright." After that, we will determine which of the 10,000 or so gods that mankind worships or has worshipped, is responsible for the EVIDENCE you have presented.

So how does a lifeless object evolve to be a living object?
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