THE CRUCIFIXION!!!!!!

St. Anselm of Canterbury said that it was necessary for God to come down and pay the penalty for sin because the penalty was so great.

Who died on the cross?

If God, then who ran the world?

But if man, then how could the sacrifice of one man pay for the whole world?

If someone pays my fine, even if I do not like that person, then the government can no longer demand payment from me. If Jesus paid my debt, then God can no longer demand it from me. How could God still punish sinners after Jesus died for us all?

The Bible says that Jesus was a ransom sacrifice who died to set us free.

Is this ransom paid to God or to the Devil?

If to God, then why did God kill his own son to set us free when he could have just set us free and keep his son?

If the ransom was paid to the devil, then how could the devil be on such great bargaining terms with God to demand his very son?

[ Last edited by Terong Pipit on 17-2-2004 at 08:58 AM ]

Yeah...dumb Debmey;

Kata hari-hari kat sini.. Nape tak jawab yang ini... tok guru kau tak kasi jawapang lagi ke?...

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-2-18 14:13:

What else can yu try? Your chicken coop WMD?Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.........................


cheers

Have a look at

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12677d.htm

and

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/404804.htm

and also

liverpoolfc.tv

Originally posted by casio666 at 2004-2-19 01:47:
Have a look at

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12677d.htm

and

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/404804.htm

and also

liverpoolfc.tv

Apa nak suruh orang pi sana pulak!!! Cerita ler kat sini... Kupas hujah yang diberi secara saintifik... bukan nak suruh kami cari kot?

Pls answer:

Who died on the cross?

If God died on the cross, then who ran the world?

How could God still punish sinners after Jesus died for us all?

Kenapa Dumbmey takut nak datang sini?

Takut kena SULA kot? :nana:

Debmey

Those are easy questions. Hahahahahahhahaha..............
In fact, I have answered it many times over. No prob, I'll tell yu again.
Who died on the cross?


If God died on the cross, then who ran the world?
Jesus the Word died on the cross for you.
There is still god the Father and the Holy Spirit remeber?



How could God still punish sinners after Jesus died for us all?
Jesus did die for us. But you gotta recognise and accept his death for our sins in order to be free from punishment.


What else?

Originally posted by Debmey at 20-2-2004 08:48 AM:
If God died on the cross, then who ran the world?
Jesus the Word died on the cross for you.
There is still god the Father and the Holy Spirit remeber?...

That means, there are TWO GODS at the moment i.e. God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. NO MORE TRINITY!!!

Dumbmey,
"God the Father dan God the Holy Spirit tak 'KAHWIN' lagi ke? Who knows... depa tak nak gantikan anak depa yang dah kena 'sacrifice' tu?"

Jadi buat apa worship sama Jesus sebab dia dah 'gone'?

Kiranya manusia ni sikit punya power giler.. sebab God the Father dan God the Holy Spirit kena sacrifice their ONLY SON untuk manusia.. apa yang manafaatnya kepada God the Father dan God the Holy Spirit apabila depa berbuat demikian...:stp::stp::stp:

Debmey

Jesus resurrected remember? You seem to be very forgetful my fren. I get to wallop yu eveb in your attack on Christianity.  Hahahahahahahahaha............................................

Originally posted by Debmey at 20-2-2004 10:24:
Jesus resurrected remember? You seem to be very forgetful my fren. I get to wallop yu eveb in your attack on Christianity.  Hahahahahahahahaha............................................

Dumbmey,

When did Jesus resurrected? Where did he gone after your claimed of resurrection? Dia mau datang balik ke?.. or just hearsay from the BIBLE that ChangeS!!! .....

Debmey

yu mean yu have never read the Bible before? Try Mark 16.

even Satan uses the Word of God in the Bible to mislead others.

so Muslims are doing the same

Debmey

Right on bruder Josh.
And i like it very much when muslims are twisting & denying their own Qurans in the process as well. Please take note the threads on the sura like it challenge and the exchanges on religion and science thread.
Kennkid & kid love to invent things as they go along and try to bullshit. They said that protons, neutrons and electrons are present before the big bang. It was very funny. Hahahahahahahahaha...................

cheers

Seraphim

Originally posted by Panglima Hitam at 20-2-2004 05:02 PM:
Dumbmey,

When did Jesus resurrected? Where did he gone after your claimed of resurrection? Dia mau datang balik ke?.. or just hearsay from the BIBLE that ChangeS!!! .....

Hey brader...read the bible first lar...:stp::stp::stp:

Debmey

Terong Pipit is just desperate. He's just firing wildly seeing that Islam and Quran are taking a beating on this forum. He thought his blind shooting will help.

kid

Originally posted by Debmey at 20-2-2004 10:25 PM:
Right on bruder Josh.
And i like it very much when muslims are twisting & denying their own Qurans in the process as well. Please take note the threads on the sura like it challenge and the excha ...

What a stupid liar!!, in fact you cant argue with us in the sceintsti and religion topic you Dumbmey!!

What are you defending here? CRUCIFICTION?? yea.. it was fiction....LOL

Debmey

kid failed on two ends in this debate.
1. He couldn't defend the big bang theory and there's a list of questions still waiting for him.
2. He had to deny his Quran to fit it into the Big Bang Theory.

Well, in your brand "NEW" Bible says god can't have a child...daaa...

kid

Originally posted by Debmey at 21-2-2004 06:20 AM:
kid failed on two ends in this debate.
1. He couldn't defend the big bang theory and there's a list of questions still waiting for him.
2. He had to deny his Quran to fit it into the Big Bang The ...

What a stupid liar, anyone can go easily to scientist and religion topic and see the result there, you are the one that can't hold to your claim and you are the one who denied the Big Bang theory, not me not kyas, not kennkid and not others.

You can say whatever you want, but people here are not stupid like you Dumbey... anyone pls check scientist and religion toic and prove my words.

Just dont run from topic, just explain CRUCIFICTION!

Debmey

The basic questions on the BBT are still waiting for you. I think yu better go back and answer them before yu deny again.

Yes, let everyone go to the religion and sceuince thread and see a long string of Muslism lies exposed left unasnwered by Muslims.

The only religion that Singaporean knew is worship their own genital parts 'cause its where their holy water come from.