Al-Qaeda and now ISIS spell the beginning of end for Islam

wkk5159

Some of us may or may not live to see it, but before this millennium is over, Islam is likely to have joined the myths of ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome as a religion that was tested and failed. In some aspects, Islam itself is an political ideology, which like undemocratic and autocratic Marxism Leninsim cum Communism which is fast declining in humanism centred modern society.


Ultimate reason ? VIOLENCE ! The violence being visited upon the world by al Qaeda, ISIS and other Islamic fundamentalists cannot survive a "holy war" against humanity as a whole. Jihad's chosen instrument — terror — did not save Communism from its failure in the last century's police state of the Soviet Union and it will not save Islam in the Middle East and elsewhere.


If anything, the Jihad is the ultimate expression of the failure of Islam, a religion conjured up by Muhammad in the seventh century out of Judaism and Christianitiy. The year ascribed to its birth is 622 AD. There are an estimated 1.2 billion Muslims around the world, mostly in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia, but there are more than 31 million in Europe, over a million and a half in South America, and at least 2.9 million in America.


The religion is divided between its Sunni and Shiite branches, but there is a deep divide as well in the hearts of an unknown number of Muslims, many of whom have concluded it ill-serves humanity in general and their own lives in particular. Some ignoramus believe that Islam and democracy   can be compatible. I doubt this because its history is one of monarchy and autocracy.


Edited by Ibn Warraq, Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out is an impressive collection of views by former Muslims, many of whom must still remain anonymous because Islam prescribes death to any apostate. Why I Am Not A Muslim ($l9.00, Prometheus Books, soft cover) is Warraq's scholarly examination of Islam that reveals that it is little more than a barbarous cult based on the life of Muhammad. Both are worth reading.


As noted, rejecting Islam to accept another faith or even to become an atheist brings with it the threat of death. It is the mark of a religion that believes any deviation from its dogma gives it the right to kill in order to justify itself. Until the Reformation transformed Christianity, it too meted out death to apostates and unbelievers....of course that confined to the then very corrupted and unChristian Roman Catholic Church.  But this is the year 2014 AD and in free societies, one's religion is not a concern of the state. But under Islam, the religion is the state. In Muslim nations, the Koran and sharia law derived from it is the only law. While Islam has permitted "dhimmis", non-Muslims, to live in Islamic nations, in practice their "protection" has been non-existent. It was and is dangerous to be anything other than a Muslim in such places. Islam, by its very nature seeks to dominate all who come under its control and deeply resents those who will not convert. That's why muslim Malays cannot tolerate any Malay apostates and this explains why every Malay must be a muslim and of course definition of Malay is somehow very unscientific and unanthropological as according to Article 153, Malaysian Constitution. Ever wonder why races of other faith(eg; Chinese and Indian) can tolerate their own races convert to other faith and vice versa ? Chineses for instance are ok with their own races converting from Taoism to Buddhism, Christianity, Islam and become even an atheist but why Islam professing Malays are so intolerant in accepting Malay muslims who had apostated ? So the pertinent question is; Does Islam make Malay so intolerant or Malays as a race itself are congenitally intolerant ???  


Brief excerpts from Warraq's books provide instant insight why Islam stands on shifting sands. Written between February 2001 and April 2002,      here are some posts from the Internet site Warraq maintains (www.secularislam.org). There is considerable irony in the way those who choose to reject Islam did so, as often as not, because they read its holy book, the Koran.
"The biggest flaw of the Koran is what is not in it. There are many crimes a person can commit; yet the Koran mentions only the punishments for a mere three or four. I was astonished at the fact that the Koran mentions nothing about punishment for rape. The word 'rape' is not even mentioned once in the Koran, as if it were not worth bringing up."
Muhammad took many wives, but many Muslims are appalled by the story of Aisha, a child whose age is debated within Islam as being as young as six but no more than nine years of age. "How can a man of more than fifty years have sexual feelings for a girl of only six?" asked a Pakistani who went on to ask, "Why is it that a woman is lower than a man? Is my mother lower than me? Why is it that a Muslim man can have four wives? And why did Muhammad have more than four wives?" He concluded, "Islam is just the ramblings of some dillusioned Arab madman."

Yet another says, "I could not remain a Muslim because Islam hates women. Islam says that women are inferior in every way. What sort of       religion forces fathers to make their daughters suffer? Islam has no joy. Islam is a cult of tears and death."
While Warraq's book is literally filled with such personal revelations by those either raised as Muslims or converts to it, I will conclude with a view expressed by a former Muslim who, upon reading the Koran, said, "I became very worried by the amount of violence in it. Subsequent    late-night sessions with the Koran convinced me that I was reading a guide to war."

The Koran is a guide to war. Thievery was the way Muhammad supported himself as the self-proclaimed prophet and conquest was the way Muhammad and his followers initially spread Islam. All secular nations, who are targets and victims in Islamic Jihad, are united in waging war subtlely, via unviolent way to end the Islamic dream of domination. We all know that pens are mightier than swords !
I believe this century will be remembered as the one in which Islam  began its long march to extinction. It will be defeated in its own terror war     and it will be squashed because many will abandon a "religion" that is repelled by modernity, denies human rights, and revels in the blood of its victims, calling their killers martyrs.
      

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Sephiroth

by wkk5159

... before this millennium is over, Islam is likely to have joined the myths of ancient        Egypt, Greece and Rome as a religion that was tested and failed. In some aspects, Islam itself is an political ideology, which like undemocratic and autocratic Marxism Leninsim cum Communism which is fast declining in humanism centred modern society.

Agree wholeheartedly.

Islam is at end of its life time. We don't have to see the World for that. Even in Malaysia, young (Muslim) men and women are trying their best to follow Islamic teachings and they are failing miserably.

Since 1990s, Islam have been pushed forward as Malaysia's official religion and many of the steps Malaysian Government had taken was directly to promote Islam. Converts from other religions are given money and business opportunities and offered to be given highlight in attempt to "bring in" new converts. It become a sort of pyramid scheme-like.

Then by 2000s, things get even worse. Malaysian Government started to import more and more Muslims into the Government sector and notice their attempt to convert the pagans and infidels (Chinese and Indians) are largely unsuccessful. And to make things worse, these races started to demand equal rights and more political power and as we all know, Islam is a political ideology which emphasis on important of one race (Muslim) in control of other races. Therefore, non-Muslims' demand were looked upon as a threat to their race.

To minimize the non-Muslim races' powers in social and economic sectors, Malaysia Government did something no other government in Asia did - they started to import other Muslims from other poverty-stricken countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia. And the result of these stupid, rasict decisions have made many Malaysians (including secular Muslims) fed up that they almost changed the government in 2008.

So, to make the story short, any attempt to push Islam forward as a religion falls flat on their faces. Muslim youngsters failed as student and business people. Muslim women keep moving forward and Muslim leaders kept dragging them backward with excuse that Muslim (lazy) men should be in lead. There are more adultery and babies been thrown into garbage bins than they did back in 1980s. And for the first time, Malaysians have started to openly support terrorists groups like JI, Abu Sayyaf, Al Qaeda and the latest, ISIS.

So, yes ... Islam seems to be in the last leg of its life. However, I fear that when Islam dies (and it will within our own life times), there will be a wide spread violence. I fear Islam will attempt to destroy the World as it is lying dying, like a mad man who wants to kill as many as possible before dying to satisfy its ego. And with today's technology, there are many ways to do that - such as nuclear weapons, dirty bombs and the lastest threat World wide - Ebola (a.k.a possibility for biological-based WMD).

Truth.8

Sephiroth posted on 27-10-2014 10:54 AM
by wkk5159

So, to make the story short, any attempt to push Islam forward as a religion falls flat on their faces. Muslim youngsters failed as student and business people. Muslim women keep moving forward and Muslim leaders kept dragging them backward with excuse that Muslim (lazy) men should be in lead. There are more adultery and babies been thrown into garbage bins than they did back in 1980s. And for the first time, Malaysians have started to openly support terrorists groups like JI, Abu Sayyaf, Al Qaeda and the latest, ISIS.

Two days ago I went to MPAJ to renew my business  licence .  The attitude of the staffs  which working in MPAJ it  totally regertable....
Not improvement  and it still getting worst from time to  time. What I about write is truth. I swear in  name of GOD.

When I upgrade my 'iklan banner"  they ask me to pay certain amount of fee since the banner now is larger. ok, no problem. than i collect the  letter  and invoice . they ask to pay  at the payment counter. after making payment, i went back. than receive call. one of the staff call and inform me that she overchage the rate and ask me to come to bring my saving book to credit back the differences.

Ok, i fine. when i visit  them again, they photo state my saving book.  after one week, receive call again...now they need company chop...
another time wasted ....ok i went with my company stamp....again they call me and inform need my signature...so i did not go as my busy schedule ...

until two days ago i went to renew my licence. ask for the officer in charge who handle my refund. as usual  not in. ask the staff, 'mana dia"? in dapur...having brekafast....1030 am  which mostly customer prefer come..she having b'fast....than i saw coming with big tupple ware with full of cakes and she place at coner at back which suppose to be place to put documents and working...and she look what you eat....fat, muka bulat and etc...
ask her about refund...she remember...than pushes here and there...than went to other department...staff not aware of my case...
finally anger and i used harsh words to the  staff...Kamu ini semua tahu ke kerja? kerja  mudah macam ini pun suruh saya pergi sini dan sana? dah pula masa kerja nak pergi b'fast....apa punya kerja kamu buat di sini? makan?  kamu kerja memang teruk lah....pelanggan macam saya dah maki dan marah...hujung bulan gaji tak berkat ...
skrg saya nak jumpa PA pada dato...tingkat  mana ini??  staff already scared and told me that in 17 floor...went straight . met her and told whole story...

than finally my case closed and payment will be credited into my saving within 2 weeks...
pls note, while i was in licence department...many are not happy...some make noise probably after i make noise many stood up to join to make noise...

our  goverment service is getting worst from time to time....poor unproductive staffs who love eating than working ..going leads  this country no where...

sam1528

LOL , all these haters can just dream on.

In 30 yrs time , the political dynamics of Europe would change. Why? Read on and cry :

A Front National local councillor has embarrassed France's far-Right party by announcing his recent conversion to Islam – and urging fellow members to join him.

Maxence Buttey, 22, offended officials of the anti-immigration party by sending them a video in which he praised the "visionary" virtues of the Koran and urged them to become Muslims.


"I was Catholic but when I reread the Bible I noticed all its inconsistencies," he said. "When I read the Koran thoroughly, I understood that this religion is more open."

Sephiroth

Source : https://my.news.yahoo.com/don-t- ... ajib-114400095.html

“If you do not take care of Malay interests, just wait and see,” he said, claiming that 1,000 non-governmental organisations have agreed to take part in the convention.

Source : https://my.news.yahoo.com/islami ... eath-032600144.html

KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 27 — The country’s top Islamic leaders are inadvertently siding with Muslim thugs and mobs by keeping silent over death threats against Syed Azmi Alhabshi — the organiser of a recent pet-a-dog event — lawyer Eric Paulsen said.

The civil liberties lawyer also claimed that the Islamic religious authorities have “truly lost their moral compass” by allegedly deeming that the death threats are “more acceptable” than Muslims touching dogs.

Muslims always claim that Islam is based on brotherhood and bringing Muslims together as a race. WHERE IS IT? I DON'T SEE IT HERE.

Matter a fact, Malays have become worst that what they were back in 1980s. At that time, they have cultural and racial identity, morality and willing to sit down and talk peacefully. Chinese and Indians were able to co-exist together and while we had our difference, it always solved with peaceful means without making any threats. What happened now?

Groups like ISMA and Perkasa (which couldn't possibly survive back in 1980s due to fear of Sedition Acts) are barking out loud, making threats to the Government and toward other races and they are walking freely without any fear. Matter a fact, it is people who criticise them who are getting Sedition Acts.

And now, Islamic leaders are pretending nothing is wrong while allowing "jihadist thugs" to fight for them. They make threats toward individuals and even when complains are made to police, the useless Police pretends nothing is wrong.

Where is the unity and brotherhood Muslims claims exists in Islam? In their rear ends?
Where is the ethics and morality Muslims preached so much to exist in Islam? In their daydreams?

wkk5159

What Feeds    Islamic Frenzy?

        

   

It is a fact that Muslims are encouraged by the news    that their number is growing. This is of course a total misrepresentation of    the truth because their number is not actually growing by conversion but by    procreation. It is true that Muslims are the fastest growing population but    they interpret this, as ISLAM being the fastest growing "religion”    and they delight even in such an obvious self-deception.

In the case of a woman born and raised in a    middle class Muslim family of doctors in Malaysia. She became a terrorist and    a jihadi after reading a book telling the stories of the Western women    converting to Islam. Those stories blazed her religious fervor making her    conclude that Islam must be a true gem that now the Westerners are    discovering it.(sounds familiar......)
She started to wear hejab, started throwing dye at women not    wearing the Islamic veil, was encouraging her husband to take a second wife,    had many brushes with the law for her subversive activities and proudly told    the reporter that she wants her sons to grow with gun in their hands. Any    news of the success of Islam, make Muslims dig deeper in their    fundamentalism and foments their religious zeal transforming them into    terrorists, killing and hating machines.        

   

It is a fact that Islam is kept alive because Muslims    look at each other telling themselves: "not all these people can be    wrong". This is what is called sheep mentality. One sheep jumps; the    other jumps too. Even Muhammad was aware of this weakness in human psyche    and took full advantage of that. In the early days of Islam he targeted the    influential Meccans like Omar and Abu Bakr. Many early Muslim’s faiths    were fortified when they learned that these two important personalities have    also accepted Islam and it made it easy for others to join. “If important    persons like Omar and Abu Bakr have accepted Islam, then it must be true”,    they reasoned. Today Muslims use names like Cat Stevens and Dr. Bucaille    (who is not even a Muslim) to impress themselves and their victims. They    even claim Neil Armstrong is a Muslim, though he himself has categorically    denied this rumor........

sam1528

LOL , the Christians , specifically the Muslim haters (wink wink - you know who you are) are worried now.

Lets have a look at the very own Christian findings :


Why you may ask? Refer to my post#4

"I was Catholic but when I reread the Bible I noticed all its inconsistencies," he said. "When I read the Koran thoroughly, I understood that this religion is more open."

wkk5159

In case certain pseudodyslexic mullahs don't and miss my gem-like facts, here the magnified excerpt from my previous post....

It is a fact that Muslims are encouraged by the news that their number is growing. This is of course a total misrepresentation of the truth because their number is not actually growing by conversion but by Procreation.(How many siblings did Osama had ???)  It is true that Muslims are the fastest growing population but they interpret this, as ISLAM being the fastest growing "religion”    and they delight even in such an obvious self-deception.

wkk5159

Islam, especially in recent years, has had many    setbacks, but they have not been publicized. There is a great number of    Muslims who leave Islam, most of them among the intellectuals and the crème  de la crème of the society. But unfortunately these dissenters are not organized and often do not wish to endanger their lives and their peace of mind by going public. In Islam the punishment of apostasy is death ! Even the poor organizer of Touch a Dog (himself a muslim) recently receives death threat from real muslims !

Thomas Paine and Bertrand Russell would not have lived long if they were Muslims  critics. Ahmad Kasravi was murdered brutally and Ali Dashti was jailed at his advanced age and died in the prisons of Khomeini. So the field is left open for the Muslims to inseminate their lies about Islam being the fastest growing religion. The truth is that many Muslims are turning against Islam and their numbers is increasing. From a statistic of the Iranians and muslims immigrants in Scandinavia we learn that 50% of them call themselves atheists or agnostics.    40% say they are Muslims but do not follow Islam. Only 10% consider themselves to be practicing Muslims !
This statistic did not take into    account those Iranians who already belonged to other religions or those    Muslims who converted to other religions after they left Iran. The anti-Islamic sentiment in Iran can be detected by conversing with the Jewelers in that country. They say that only 5% of those who buy gold chain necklaces want Islamic emblems like Allah, Muhammad and Ali carved in their necklace ! 95% now ask for Iranian emblems like the edict of Cyrus on human rights, the Hakhamanish soldiers, Persepolis and other Iranian national    icons. 23 years ago this percentage was completely the other way round. Today the government pays people to go to the Mosques. Some go because they    are in dire poverty and need the money and the food that is served there, but still the mosques are empty. The dislike of Islam among Iranians is    evident from the fact that now they prefer traditional Iranian names for their newborns. Just 5% of them choose Islamic (Arab) names. In earlier    generations this percentage was over 80%.(of course imbecillic Australoid in Malaysia presently still do...)

   

Iran has traditionally played a decisive role for Islam. It provided it with its philosophy. Most of Islamic philosophers are Iranians. Sufism is an Iranian invention, and even the founders of the 4 Sunni schools of thoughts were Iranians. Without the Iranian input Islam  would be a primitive cult. Islam owes its greatness, architecture philosophy and culture to Iranian luminaries. The Islamic revolution of Iran gave a  boost to Islam and Islamic fundamentalism in the entire world. So it is only obvious that the demise of Islam can be easily deciphered with what happens in Iran and Iranian elsewhere in the world .

sam1528

LOL , the muslim hater 'wkk5159' is recycling already refuted arguments. This has been addressed a long time ago but haters always have selective and short memory.

The growth of Islam is due to retention and conversion as pointed out buy a Christian think tank.

In 2012, research published in a sociology journal showed that 77% of actively practicing Muslim families successfully perpetuate their faith to the next generation, in contrast to only 29% in actively practicing Christian families and 65% in other religions.

As these studies suggest, the growth of Islam in the UK is largely the result of both the strong retention rate within Islamic families as well as conversion from outside

Looks like data analysis is not the strong point of a so call claimaint of 'I am a professional and an expert in my field'. LOL .... in the field of BS probably

wkk5159

Muslims like sam1528 delight even in such an obvious self-deception....

kid

AGREE

Warmonger, hatred, anarchy, anger, irrational (fake) ISLAM will eventually GONE.

Just, peace loving, positive, innovative (real) ISLAM will SHINE.

This has been told in Qur'an that the REAL ISLAM WILL RISE in the future.

wkk5159

kid posted on 28-10-2014 01:28 PM
AGREE

Warmonger, hatred, anarchy, anger, irrational (fake) ISLAM will eventually GONE.

Kid, you are a good people but bad muslim in the eyes of a rational secularist like me.

The avatar name you chose, Kid, had betrayed you, you don't adopt a muslim name because deep inside you, you know that Islam is a disgrace, it is synonymous with violence and everything negative all around the world. You feel inferior with a Islamic name.

Real Islam(Good muslim but bad people) is teaching violence and hatred towards the kafir, depriving the women of their rights and domination of world via jihad.

Fake Islam(Bad muslim but good people) is teaching liberalism, democarcy, peace loving.....

If you insist that true Islam is teaching liberalism and peace loving, trust me, very soon you will be a part of ever growing number of creme de la creme ex-muslims ! Apostates to be exact !

Or you are just another facts denying muslim who is beside futilely deceiving the world but also yourself.

sam1528

wkk5159 posted on 28-10-2014 10:23 AM
Muslims like sam1528 delight even in such an obvious self-deception...

LOL , this is so silly and pathetic from you.

The main reason for the rise of Islam is conversion and retention. The birth rate can be 5 or 10 times higher but if the retention rate is low , it amounts to nothing. This means that muslims parents are successful in passing the faith to the next generation.

This is all data driven logic. Too bad , you - 'wkk5159' , you have none but still claim to be 'a true professional and an expert in your field'. The field of BS to be precise. You are just a hater , nothing more ...

kid

wkk5159 posted on 28-10-2014 02:32 PM
Kid, you are a good people but bad muslim in the eyes of a rational secularist like me.

The ava ...

Kid, you are a good people but bad muslim in the eyes of a rational secularist like me.

Not only you, but also a bad muslim in the eyes of other muslims.

The avatar name you chose, Kid, had betrayed you, you don't adopt a muslim name because deep inside you, you know that Islam is a disgrace, it is synonymous with violence and everything negative all around the world. You feel inferior with a Islamic name.

Frankly I dont understand why a nick name has nothing to do with anything, and I chose kid for no specific reason at all, you use wkk5159 which is hard to digest what it means for me. I dont believe a name has anything to do with faith.

Real Islam(Good muslim but bad people) is teaching violence and hatred towards the kafir, depriving the women of their rights and domination of world via jihad.

So this is your view... ok then...

Fake Islam(Bad muslim but good people) is teaching liberalism, democarcy, peace loving.....

So again this is your view... ok then, your choice.

If you insist that true Islam is teaching liberalism and peace loving, trust me, very soon you will be a part of ever growing number of creme de la creme ex-muslims ! Apostates to be exact !

Trust me, you are dead wrong. I learnt the true Islam for almost 20 years now, and this years were not spent for NOTHING. I discovered much of what the world really is. It was a very long journey of me, there were seldom days I spent in the last 20 years without reading and research.

In the end what I found is the opposite of what people judge about Islam either from non-Muslim or Muslim themselves. I also leartn other religions, atheism etc. Those for my quest to know WHY WE ARE HERE!

Have you ever asked that yourslef? Why youare here? Where you will go in thereafter?

I dont say that I have concluded my research, nor I say that I'm right, but at least iI have few conclusions. And my conclusion is light years apart from what most people believe.

Or you are just another facts denying muslim who is beside futilely deceiving the world but also yourself.

I found that almost ALL human has been deceived. So not specifically to Muslim, but also to other religion and including ATHEIST as well, and might be you!

But this is a very long story to tell of what, why and how, and I believe nobody will be interested to hear my finding...

wkk5159

kid posted on 28-10-2014 08:21 PM


Not only you, but also a bad muslim in the eyes of other muslims.

You are right, no true good muslims(bad people) will be interested in listening to your findings on liberalism in Islam(don't exist at all btw). They are more interested in stoning you to death or beheading you...

wkk5159

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