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How many Muslims here believe Christians can use the name Allah in the prayers?

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Post time 9-1-2014 02:05 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
I was just wondering what are the stance on Muslims here regarding this issue regarding the use of the word "Allah" by Christians - in their prayers and in their text.

Personally, I think Christians are wrong to pray to Allah as such words does not exist (except in Arabic language text) in the Old Testament. That is why Muhammad changed all the names of the Prophets like Moses to Musa, Jesus to Isa and Soloman to Sulaiman.
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Post time 9-1-2014 02:56 PM | Show all posts
RC using allah because they have hidden agenda.....rc is corrupt element of corrupt practise when idols in chruch...

One example  after using allah name for hymn ( Kristian mengalunkan puji-pujian kepada 'Allah')  than they will start to pray to Mary and offering candles and flowers....Nobody does that even the time of Paul...until rc came in and polluted all this...

better they  dont  used GOD holy name like Yaweh ....because rc is not part the true teachings... Last edited by Truth.8 on 9-1-2014 03:06 PM

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Truth.8 posted on 9-1-2014 02:56 PM
RC using allah because they have hidden agenda.....rc is corrupt element of corrupt practise when id ...

Thank you for your response.
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 Author| Post time 10-1-2014 07:52 AM | Show all posts
The one who voted "Yes". Could you share your opinion in this matter?
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Post time 10-1-2014 12:32 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 10-1-2014 07:52 AM
The one who voted "Yes". Could you share your opinion in this matter?

Learn from a scholar not layman



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 Author| Post time 10-1-2014 12:58 PM | Show all posts
sam1528 posted on 10-1-2014 12:32 PM
Learn from a scholar not layman

I asked for YOUR opinion, not some scholars. IF you do not have one, leave.
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Post time 10-1-2014 02:37 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 10-1-2014 12:58 PM
I asked for YOUR opinion, not some scholars. IF you do not have one, leave.

I am giving you my opinion based on scholarship.

Unlike you whose thought process is thru your ass

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 Author| Post time 10-1-2014 02:40 PM | Show all posts
sam1528 posted on 10-1-2014 02:37 PM
I am giving you my opinion based on scholarship.

Unlike you whose thought process is thru your  ...

FU#K Off.
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Post time 10-1-2014 02:49 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 10-1-2014 02:40 PM
FU#K Off.

Is that another one of your ass based thought process?

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Post time 11-1-2014 03:21 PM | Show all posts
Shikh also used allah....so?
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Post time 11-1-2014 03:23 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 9-1-2014 03:17 PM
Thank you for your response.

The motif behind all this....hidden agenda...

1)....The RC do not want their followers to convert to islam because the followers might think same god which is allah

2)  another motif,,, to convert the muslims

The shikh too maybe do not want their kids or followers to convert to islam because  same god which is allah...

...but the shikh do not worship idols ...

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 Author| Post time 13-1-2014 10:48 AM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 11-1-2014 03:23 PM
The motif behind all this....hidden agenda...

1)....The RC do not want their followers to conve ...

Basically, both Muslims and Chistians knows that by using the name "Allah", you can pull Muslims to become Christians (and vice versa). But Muslims have the reason to worry now more than ever, simply because Islam's name is in the trash due to actions of some fanatics like the talibans. So, to the so-called weak-minded Muslims, the notions of leaving Islam (worship according to Muhammad's ways) and change to Christianity (worship according to Jesus's ways) could be acceptable if they believe that they did not change their god.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying only fanatics are out to convert and kill non-Muslims. The so-called moderated Muslims are doing that as well through lies, deceptions, bribery and sex. Only difference I see between fanatic and moderate Muslims is that moderate muslims do not blow themselves up in the process.

However, in my personal opinion, there are two reasons why Christians could continue to use the word "Allah" :

1. To convert Muslims to Christianity (as mentioned above).
2. To bring in more Indonesian Christians and Sabahans/Sarawakians who are working in Malaysia, thus increasing the Church's funds in the process.

After all, it is simply doesn't make sense. IF Christians want to do B.M based Bible, it is simpler to write "Tuhan" which is also in B.M instead of using the word "Allah" which is Arabic word.
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Post time 13-1-2014 12:24 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 13-1-2014 10:48 AM
Basically, both Muslims and Chistians knows that by using the name "Allah", you can pull Muslims t ...
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying only fanatics are out to convert and kill non-Muslims. The so-called moderated Muslims are doing that as well through lies, deceptions, bribery and sex. Only difference I see between fanatic and moderate Muslims is that moderate muslims do not blow themselves up in the process.

However, in my personal opinion, there are two reasons why Christians could continue to use the word "Allah" :

1. To convert Muslims to Christianity (as mentioned above).
2. To bring in more Indonesian Christians and Sabahans/Sarawakians who are working in Malaysia, thus increasing the Church's funds in the process.

After all, it is simply doesn't make sense. IF Christians want to do B.M based Bible, it is simpler to write "Tuhan" which is also in B.M instead of using the word "Allah" which is Arabic word.

So, once muslims accept christianity...it goes back idols worshipper. such as:

praying to idols
praying to mary
eating unclean meats
pagan festivals such christimas , easter and etc

feel sorry  for muslims wish to accept so call rc faith...

it better muslims remaind as muslims than idols worshipper...of course those rc pastors good with their words to says is ok  with pray to marry or celebrate christmas...


If muslims were to flight against RC on this issue....I blame the RC leaders   not muslims..
Last edited by Truth.8 on 13-1-2014 12:26 PM

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Post time 13-1-2014 05:23 PM | Show all posts
Mengapa Allah bukan Yahweh?
Judaisme yang meyakini dan beramal dengan Torah dan Psalm menggunakan beberapa kalimat yang merujuk Tuhan dan antaranya termasuklah perkataan Yahweh, Eloah, dan Elohim.

Dalam erti kata lain, perkataan-perkataan ini adalah perkataan yang digunakan dalam Old Testament (Torah) dan Psalm yang turut menjadi sumber rujukan bagi ajaran Kristian.

Persoalan yang timbul adalah dari mana terbit perkataan “God” dan “Lord” yang merujuk kepada Tuhan bagi ajaran Kristian yang turut merujuk kepada Tuhan dalam kitab Old Testament
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Post time 13-1-2014 05:28 PM | Show all posts
‘For God’s sake, get your act together’

KUALA LUMPUR: MIC today urged the Batu Caves temple committee and Malaysian Hindu Sangam (MHS) to maintain professionalism in settling their differences over the Thaipusam ritual of carrying kavadi.

Speaking at a press conference here, MIC information chief L Sivasubramaniam expressed dismay over the quarrel that has gone on between the two authorities since Jan 4, when MHS announced its guidelines for devotees to follow during the annual celebration this Friday.

Batu Caves temple president R Nadarajah has criticised MHS for its initiative, saying: “Who is Hindu Sangam to come up with its own rules?”

He has also attacked former MHS president A Vaithilingam by describing him as “an old man” who could “barely walk.”


more spicy part :http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com

itu barang mau angkat ...poong mau ..gaduh kah ...
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 Author| Post time 15-1-2014 01:13 PM | Show all posts
Al-Patih posted on 13-1-2014 05:28 PM
‘For God’s sake, get your act together’KUALA LUMPUR: MIC today urged the Batu Caves temple commit ...

Ini bukan pasal Batu Caves, BODOH. Kalau kamu nak mengarut, pergi buat thread sendiri.
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Post time 16-1-2014 09:49 AM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 15-1-2014 01:13 PM
Ini bukan pasal Batu Caves, BODOH. Kalau kamu nak mengarut, pergi buat thread sendiri.

kamu yang bodeo ke ..pasai satu perkara poong mau gaduh ....Why qurrel on small tiny winny matter...no matter what matter
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Al-Patih posted on 16-1-2014 09:49 AM
kamu yang bodeo ke ..pasai satu perkara poong mau gaduh ....Why qurrel on small tiny winny matter. ...

Maaf, aku tak ada masa nak layan Indon macam kau.
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Post time 20-1-2014 10:57 AM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 20-1-2014 10:56 AM
Maaf, aku tak ada masa nak layan Indon macam kau.

tapi ado masa menjawab ...mana satu masa ..kamu pakai ni ...
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Post time 20-1-2014 03:57 PM | Show all posts
Al-Patih posted on 20-1-2014 10:57 AM
tapi ado masa menjawab ...mana satu masa ..kamu pakai ni ...
tapi ado masa menjawab ...mana satu masa ..kamu pakai ni ...



Madam sepi akan jawab bila tiada haid sebab mood madam happy... masa madam haid dia no mood asyik marah2 aja...macam masa skrg ....no mood...
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