Truth.8 posted on 20-10-2013 05:12 PM
which part of my wordings sound humor? mind telling
Oh my God ... You were serious???
Well, if the Bible is the ONLY book you have ever read, then give me (PM me) your address and I will send you some good books to read later, including Bhavagad Gita to cure your stupidity.
I'm not sure where I read this but an atheist once said - and I qoute - "The best way of becoming an atheist, is to READ THE BIBLE."
Sephiroth posted on 21-10-2013 09:38 AM
Oh my God ... You were serious???
Well, if the Bible is ...
I rather trust my Bible than your faith which has followings:
god like to drink samsu/or whisky / cigar, parang including his followers behaving such like samsu drunked peopels...
getting married to dogs . followers going on trance un controllable to extende behaving like devil
worshipping all sorts of animals and etc
not mentioning taking urine as holy
Truth.8 posted on 21-10-2013 12:05 PM
I rather trust my Bible than your faith which has followings:
god like to drink samsu/or whisky ...
You can trust whatever you want. It's your funeral anyway.
Oh, FYI - the biggest enemy of God are the Christians themselves, for I have never seen more evil nations upon this World except for those who follow the Words of the Bible, as they are guilty of many things - like bringing plague to kill the Mayans, Genocide over the Red Indians and Cultural Genocide over the Asians.
Sephiroth posted on 21-10-2013 01:11 PM
You can trust whatever you want. It's your funeral anyway.
Oh, FYI - the biggest enemy of ...
You can trust whatever you want. It's your funeral anyway.
Oh, FYI - the biggest enemy of God are the Christians themselves, for I have never seen more evil nations upon this World except for those who follow the Words of the Bible, as they are guilty of many things - like bringing plague to kill the Mayans, Genocide over the Red Indians and Cultural Genocide over the Asians.
there are good apples and bad...u cannot blame Bible as Bible guided them but they astray ...same like u ...believing all sorts pagan ritual and etc..
worst part..offering whiski to ur god....
Truth.8 posted on 21-10-2013 01:31 PM
there are good apples and bad...u cannot blame Bible as Bible guided them but they astray ...s ...
There is no good apples or bad apples in Christianity. Christianity itself was created to turn Man away from God by worshipping a dead god. Christianity is EVIL and it supports another Evil (Islam). All these wars and delusions the World is experiencing is nothing more than illusions created by both these Evil (beliefs) to turn Man away from God. And that is the Truth.
Till Man able to get up and throw away both Islam and Christianity as false beliefs, he will not be liberated from influence of Maya (illusion) and be forever bound within the darkness.
Sephiroth posted on 21-10-2013 03:06 PM
There is no good apples or bad apples in Christianity. Christianity itself was created to turn Man ...
There is no good apples or bad apples in Christianity. Christianity itself was created to turn Man away from God by worshipping a dead god. Christianity is EVIL and it supports another Evil (Islam). All these wars and delusions the World is experiencing is nothing more than illusions created by both these Evil (beliefs) to turn Man away from God. And that is the Truth.
are u saying all hindus are good? are you saying hindus who get themselves drunked and rowdy good?
Till Man able to get up and throw away both Islam and Christianity as false beliefs, he will not be liberated from influence of Maya (illusion) and be forever bound within the darkness.
The Bible is book of guidance and spiritual ...it one the best book given to mankind...it has history,peom , fact and etc
now looking at your faith which full of crap like god drinking samsu, cigar and etc...do we need accept such faith ? my faith we do not have god taking samsu or cigar...or torturing themselves withsharp object to reach god or even worst their followers taking kind drugs to reach their gods..
Till Man able to get up and throw away both Hinduism and Pagan as false beliefs, he will not be liberated from influence of Maya (illusion) and be forever bound within the darkness.
are u saying all hindus are good? are you saying hindus who get themselves drunked and rowdy good?
Those are not Hindus. They are just Indians. And Indians do not represent Hinduism.
The Bible is book of guidance and spiritual ...it one the best book given to mankind...it has history,peom , fact and etc
The Bible is a load of crap.
A person who read a Bible will be convince that God is mad.
And a person who follows the (teaching of the Bible) will become an atheist and reject God completely like so many in the West.
Bottomline - Al Quran and the Bible are words of the Devil, created to turn Man away from God. As long as Man follows that crap, he will never find God. That is the ONLY TRUTH here.
Sephiroth posted on 21-10-2013 04:59 PM
by snake.8
Those are not Hindus. They are just Indians. And Indians do not represent Hinduism.
...yet they will goes to temples and represent themselves as hindus...
The Bible is a load of crap.
A person with unsound mind thinks such
A person who read a Bible will be convince that God is mad.
And a person who follows the (teaching of the Bible) will become an atheist and reject God completely like so many in the West.
peoples like you and hindus should approached Bibel to better man of the world...otherwise they behave like gangster which shot dead by our local police...i never heard about christians been shot dead but mostly from your ethnic which are hindus....
now where goes wrong? hinduism...hmm i guess so
Bottomline - Al Quran and the Bible are words of the Devil, created to turn Man away from God. As long as Man follows that crap, he will never find God. That is the ONLY TRUTH here.
i dont about quran but i know Bible is the best book in the world...the only devil is : look at india...look at ur ethnic and etc...where does this leads them? blamming goverment not good but once we have true believed in true GOD...we can goes more in betterman of the world
...yet they will goes to temples and represent themselves as hindus...
Who gives crap what they represent? In eyes of Hinduism, ONLY devotees of God are those who have faith in Hindu gods and follow the Laws of Karma. The rest just garbage.
A person with unsound mind thinks such
Nope, that is the ONLY truth.
peoples like you and hindus should approached Bibel to better man of the world
Approach Bibel? Who's Bibel? You mean Justin Bieber? Sorry, I hate his music.
i never heard about christians been shot dead ....
You just wait lah. Very soon, Muslims going to be pissed off with all these Allah issues and go into your Churches and start shooting people or blowing themselves up. You just wait.
i dont about quran but i know Bible is the best book in the world...
Sephiroth posted on 22-10-2013 10:00 AM
by truth.8
Who gives crap what they represent? In eyes of Hinduism, ONLY devotees of God are those who have faith in Hindu gods and follow the Laws of Karma. The rest just garbage.
well...as far as Bible concern....those are God and Christ believers are true people in earth...the rest consider trash include u
Nope, that is the ONLY truth.
is only truth to u not to us
You just wait lah. Very soon, Muslims going to be pissed off with all these Allah issues and go into your Churches and start shooting people or blowing themselves up. You just wait.
...that call end times when devil who use peoples to make war and killing God creation...that is unlawless compare to your hindus doing gangster who shot dead by our local police..
Yup, best Con book.
For devil followers, it consider con but peoples like me is consider the best book in the earth..
well...as far as Bible concern....those are God and Christ believers are true people in earth...the rest consider trash include u
When my God opens His eyes and see the filth that filling up the World and burn it, I really hope your Christ can save you.
...that call end times when devil who use peoples to make war and killing God creation...that is unlawless compare to your hindus doing gangster who shot dead by our local police..
And who creates most weapons in the World? Hindus? Nope, Westerners (or more correctly, christians). And Communists, and atheists (Chinese and North Koreans). As you said yourself, devil uses people to make wars and kill God's creations. And that fits your pathetic race PERFECTLY. Thank you for proving my point.
For devil followers, it consider con but peoples like me is consider the best book in the earth..
Sephiroth posted on 23-10-2013 02:50 PM
by snake.8
When my God opens His eyes and see the filth that filling up the World and burn it, I really hope your Christ can save you.
which god u refering ? one book says one god another says demi gods is corrupt element another says different things. so, tell me which one???
And who creates most weapons in the World? Hindus? Nope, Westerners (or more correctly, christians). And Communists, and atheists (Chinese and North Koreans). As you said yourself, devil uses people to make wars and kill God's creations. And that fits your pathetic race PERFECTLY. Thank you for proving my point.
The western create such weapons for safe guard of the world. if not , osama bin laden and few others been attacking ur india by now...be thankful to Christian nations for such weapons...Praise the Lord for Christains for protecting the world
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[quote]That is because you are a snake.
well....at least I rather my own business than peoples like u steal company interent line , working hrs and coming here for debate with full of hatred ... that explained how snake like never change.
which god u refering ? one book says one god another says demi gods is corrupt element another says different things. so, tell me which one???
That is the difference between God's People and pathetic snakes like you (and the rest of the Christians and Muslims). WE KNOW WHO HE IS. You do not.
The western create such weapons for safe guard of the world.
No, Westerns create such weapons because they wanted to make money.
Because, like you said, the Devil uses them to make war, and all wars are profitable. Did you know that America existed for 250 years, and in that time, it have been in peace ONLY for about 25 years? Which means America have been in war continously for 225 years. And you are telling me Christians are such a peaceful people. What a joke.
Oh, Osama bin Laden - he was trained by CIA to wage war against the Soviets in 1980s. So, without the USA, there could not be any Cold War and Osama bin Laden probably spend his time living peacefully somewhere with his wives.
well....at least I rather my own business than peoples like u steal company interent line ...
Sephiroth posted on 23-10-2013 04:34 PM
by snake.8
That is the difference between God's People and pathetic snakes like you (and the rest of the Christians and Muslims). WE KNOW WHO HE IS. You do not.
well it still unanswer by many hindus and you who cannot explain why the book of gita says demi gods is corrrupt element when temples are fill with demi gods....
so, u hve no right to says our faith is this and that when such weakness exist in ur faith...
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No, Westerns create such weapons because they wanted to make money.
yet the western bring lot improvement in economy and etc which u enjoying now...even the intenet brain child of bible reading..
Oh, Osama bin Laden - he was trained by CIA to wage war against the Soviets in 1980s. So, without the USA, there could not be any Cold War and Osama bin Laden probably spend his time living peacefully somewhere with his wives.
well it still unanswer by many hindus and you who cannot explain why the book of gita says demi gods is corrrupt element when temples are fill with demi gods....
If that is your assumption (that you THINK demi gods is corrupt), I have nothing to say.
so, u hve no right to says our faith is this and that when such weakness exist in ur faith...
You put your "faith" on a dead guy who have been abandoned by his god and couldn't even save his own sorry a$$. You want to believe that guy is your god, that's your choice. Just don't come and try to shove the same $hit in my face.
yet the western bring lot improvement in economy and etc which u enjoying now...even the intenet brain child of bible reading..
Snake.8, you're full of $hit.
ONLY thing the devils in the West brought is chaos, strife and destruction. Christians are the hands of the Devil, and you are an example of such devil.
there is no proof and your own assumption...
Whatever you say, snake.8. I have no time to argue with delusional devils.
my assumption always truth and fact
You couldn't know what truth is even if truth come and spank your sorry a$$.
Sephiroth posted on 24-10-2013 09:19 AM
by snake.8
If that is your assumption (that you THINK demi gods is corrupt), I have nothing to say.
is not my assumption...in fact it fool thing to worship demi god as I feel it kind material issue to worship /or practise such. one example, hindus worshipped Lakshmi for wealth...this another corrupt element...
The most popular amongst all the Hindu scriptures is the Bhagavad Gita.
Consider the following verse from the Gita:
"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]
The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.
UPANISHADS:
The Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus.
The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God:
"Ekam evadvitiyam"
"He is One only without a second."
[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1
"Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."
"Of Him there are neither parents nor lord."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2
"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3
The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:
"Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam."
"His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]4
1[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 447 and 448]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 1 ‘The Upanishads part I’ page 93]
2[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 745]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page 263.]
3[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 736 & 737]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]
4[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 737]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]
THE VEDAS
Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. There are four principal Vedas: Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda.
Yajurveda
The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God:
"na tasya pratima asti
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]5
"shudhama poapvidham"
"He is bodyless and pure."
[Yajurveda 40:8]6
"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
[Yajurveda 40:9]7
Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.
The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:
"Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander."
[Yajurveda 40:16]8
5[Yajurveda by Devi Chand M.A. page 377]
6[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]
7[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]
8[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith page 541]
Atharvaveda
The Atharvaveda praises God in Book 20, hymn 58 and verse 3:
"Dev maha osi"
"God is verily great"
[Atharvaveda 20:58:3]9
Rigveda
The oldest of all the vedas is Rigveda. It is also the one considered most sacred by the Hindus. The Rigveda states in Book 1, hymn 164 and verse 46:
"Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names."
[Rigveda 1:164:46]
The Rigveda gives several different attributes to Almighty God. Many of these are mentioned in Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1.
Among the various attributes of God, one of the beautiful attributes mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3, is Brahma. Brahma means ‘The Creator’. Translated into Arabic it means Khaaliq. Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Khaaliq or ‘Creator’ or Brahma. However if it is said that Brahma is Almighty God who has four heads with each head having a crown, Muslims take strong exception to it.
Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda:
"Na tasya Pratima asti"
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]
Another beautiful attribute of God mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3 is Vishnu. Vishnu means ‘The Sustainer’. Translated into Arabic it means Rabb. Again, Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Rabb or 'Sustainer' or Vishnu. But the popular image of
9[Atharveda Samhita vol 2 William Dwight Whitney page 910]
Vishnu among Hindus, is that of a God who has four arms, with one of the right arms holding the Chakra, i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘conch shell’, or riding a bird or reclining on a snake couch. Muslims can never accept any image of God. As mentioned earlier this also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.
"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him"
The following verse from the Rigveda Book 8, hymn 1, verse 1 refer to the Unity and Glory of the Supreme Being:
"Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata"
"O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone."
[Rigveda 8:1:1]10
"Devasya samituk parishtutih"
"Verily, great is the glory of the Divine Creator."
[Rigveda 5:1:81]11
Brahma Sutra of Hinduism:
The BrahmaSutra of Hinduism is:
"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"
"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."
Thus only a dispassionate study of the Hindu scriptures can help one understand the concept of God in Hinduism.
You put your "faith" on a dead guy who have been abandoned by his god and couldn't even save his own sorry a$$. You want to believe that guy is your god, that's your choice. Just don't come and try to shove the same $hit in my face.
The Bible has guided many ex hindus the way of life than behaving gangster in street.
Snake.8, you're full of $hit.
ONLY thing the devils in the West brought is chaos, strife and destruction. Christians are the hands of the Devil, and you are an example of such devil.
that s is ur assumption...the western or Bible reading peoples indeed protecting the wordl than wicked who claime believed in one god but doing evil things in earth
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[quote]You couldn't know what truth is even if truth come and spank your sorry a$$.
Oh yes it is. Because I don't see the rationality of listening to a guy who worship another dead, rotting guy, hanging on a cross about God. Sorry, I really don't care much for your assumption on what you think about Hinduism. Because it is quite clear that you are nothing more than hands of the Devil.