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Post time 8-2-2009 12:17 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Ada yang berpendapat mereka yang rajin salin dan tampal ini sebebarnya bijak kerana
bukan semua mempunyai kemahiran dan kecekapan sintesis pelbagai berita dan artikel
lalu menjadikannya topik perbincangan...

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Post time 8-2-2009 01:07 PM | Show all posts
depa punye semangat caring

tapi depa tak punye sifat investigating

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Post time 9-2-2009 04:52 PM | Show all posts
Copy n paste ok but it is better if you also attach your own comment on why you agree with the article you pasted.
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Post time 10-2-2009 11:52 PM | Show all posts

and

Originally posted by hamizao at 9-2-2009 04:52 PM
Copy n paste ok but it is better if you also attach your own comment on why you agree with the article you pasted.

just adding to your comment, a person WHO COULD evaluate , comparing and contrasting the COPY & PASTE  article
HE HAS  given, is in every sense of the word is the clever ones, as these really show the ACTUAL synthesise of the info he gained.

but just mere  cutting and paste jer , semua boleh buat - letih kita nak sintesis lerr

synthesis - you try to formulate new thought based on the articles that you just read.

ni Bloom Taxonomy ni

[ Last edited by  mbhcsf at 11-2-2009 12:40 AM ]
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Post time 10-2-2009 11:52 PM | Show all posts
it is also called  plagiarism?
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Post time 10-2-2009 11:53 PM | Show all posts

Reply #2 ajinomotonosuga's post

ouch ..amboi ....sdap nyer bantai noooo
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Post time 12-2-2009 12:32 AM | Show all posts

Reply #5 mbhcsf's post

If you forget to give credit to the deserving............Worst if you you put your name on the dotted line
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Post time 13-2-2009 10:21 PM | Show all posts

Reply #7 hamizao's post

well cut and paste is the catch phrase that we used  to depict those behaviours, in academia, it 's called plagiarism

but then, would you consider those big names like William Harvey or Roger Bacon in the west circa 17th century ? had also commited the same Act?

like William Harvey for example, well... according to the West is the first person who discovered the blood circulation system in the body and his name will  be frequently mentioned , countless times if that person is a student of vascular biology.But then if you were to familiarize yourself with this name An  Naffis then you would know that this chap is the actual person who , was  circa 11th or 12th century,  had already discovered this matter . Unfortunately, this name had not being given the so much credit that he definitely deserved for.

So in a way the cut and paste "activity" had long being practiced usually by those who is  not the primary person who acquires the knowledge, is not it?
but then, retrospectively, it does not matter much because in a way you want the knowledge itself to be flourished.So, it does and has tremendously expanded since then...but sooner a letter -  truth has  its  very own way in making  itself known....

to be honest , copy paste is boring actullay.

[ Last edited by  mbhcsf at 13-2-2009 10:22 PM ]
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Post time 14-2-2009 02:13 AM | Show all posts

Reply #8 mbhcsf's post

Well, mbf.... for one thing, copyright laws on intellectual or commercial properties is only a fairly recent thing...last 200 years perhaps. Then also history is rwritten or rewritten by the victors.

However it might have been started earlier in the Jewish community....depa pandai calculate benefit and loss.
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Post time 14-2-2009 11:50 AM | Show all posts
waa....
this copy and paste discussion is a bit broad
I agree with what mbhcsf's opinion on it

tapi kalau nak berbalik kepada apa yang tuan punya thread katakan,
I think guys who copy and paste at times (maybe) really wanted to talk about it, just they dont have the exact opinion yet. or even have nothing to start with ...


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Post time 14-2-2009 06:51 PM | Show all posts

hmm..hello Hami

Originally posted by hamizao at 14-2-2009 02:13 AM
Well, mbf.... for one thing, copyright laws on intellectual or commercial properties is only a fairly recent thing...last 200 years perhaps. Then also history is rwritten or rewritten by the vict ...


You make me sound like a bank ekeke....mbf - that rabbit ad not too long ago

well, this cut and paste culture can also be seen  in the most sophisticated form like : industrial espinionage.... heard that many KGB agents were into this kind of "operation" since the collapsed of the iron curtain - Gorbachev thingy.

anyway - Hami i am curious to know what's teh Jews had done in terms of  this IP ( intellectual properties ni ) hmm..interesting
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Post time 14-2-2009 06:53 PM | Show all posts

well bukan aper

Originally posted by abemus at 14-2-2009 11:50 AM
waa....
this copy and paste discussion is a bit broad
I agree with what mbhcsf's opinion on it

tapi kalau nak berbalik kepada apa yang tuan punya thread katakan,
I think guys who copy and  ...


At least kan Sdr , cut and paste pun.....biarlah buat summary at least 1/2 a post ker , ni tidak pakai cut and paste jer..paling paling  3 ayat ....lepas tu ntah tak datang  datang buat summary or synthesis hmm....so kita pun discuss lah then somehow another query would be : what 's the opinion?
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Post time 23-2-2009 09:17 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 8-2-2009 01:07 PM
depa punye semangat caring

tapi depa tak punye sifat investigating



satu yg pasti, DIA rajin membaca ....
satu yg kurang pasti, OTAK maybe takde kemahiran sintesis
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Post time 23-2-2009 07:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #13 my-alja's post

wow..u familiar with the term  sintesis ? i am sure your hubby banyak komen pasal students jawab exams ni ?

ada kaa?
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Post time 24-2-2009 06:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mbhcsf at 23-2-2009 07:58 PM
wow..u familiar with the term  sintesis ? i am sure your hubby banyak komen pasal students jawab exams ni ?

ada kaa?


errr....i got the impression that u thot my hubby is a lecturer...ye ke?
hehe....he's not
tapi dia nak jadi student balik...tgk cemana hidup dia nanti
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Post time 25-2-2009 01:23 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mbhcsf at 14-2-2009 06:51 PM


You make me sound like a bank ekeke....mbf - that rabbit ad not too long ago

well, this cut and paste culture can also be seen  in the most sophisticated form like : industrial  ...


So sorry. Sometimes akak tersasul....Best juga ya kalau jadi bank
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Post time 28-2-2009 10:57 AM | Show all posts
cakap sendiri org mungkin tak ambik peduli... atau tak percaya
so guna cakap orglah... terutama yg ada autoriti

so salin tampal..
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Post time 28-2-2009 11:02 AM | Show all posts
tapi nak nilai pembuat kerja tu kita tengok dia punya kebiasaanlah.

kalau dia memang biasa memberi pendapat sendiri salin tampal mungkin cara to stress a point

tapi kalau kerja dia salin tampal tanpa apa2 ulasan munasabah daripada dia... then his thinking a suspectlah..
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Post time 1-3-2009 07:56 PM | Show all posts

Reply #17 petola's post

well alternatively, he / she could cite the author or state the reference while writing her own appraisal on the  subject matter of interest.
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Post time 2-3-2009 11:33 PM | Show all posts

untuk ilmu takpe...

jgn excessive sgt dah le...
good to share. but to join the discussion, it reflects the his/her appreciation to the post. consequently, appreciating him/herself
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