First U Boat Landed in Penang August 1943

Obersliutenant

he motivation for German interest in the Far East is likely due to acombination of factors

HangPC2

maknanya betul U Boat pernah lalu kat Perairan Selat Melaka dalam perjalanan ke Batavia

Obersliutenant

tetau di Penang tu masih ada ka stesen yg didirikan kerjasama Jerman/Jepun..?

Kilokahn

wow. this is new info to me. thank you.

alphawolf

Banyak kali jugak la Uboat lalu lalang antara Europe ngan Jepun...dok bawak teknologi Jerman pi jEPUN dan bawak balik bahan mentah dari asia.

HangPC2

Originally posted by alphawolf at 29-9-2007 11:31 AM
Banyak kali jugak la Uboat lalu lalang antara Europe ngan Jepun...dok bawak teknologi Jerman pi jEPUN dan bawak balik bahan mentah dari asia.

aku ada terbaca satu artikel selalunya Pihak german '' KG200 '' buat penghantaran Bahan Mentah, Spy, Teknologi Ke Jepun Melalui Jalan Udara (Perjalanan Merentas Benua Asia Singgah Sekejap di Manchuria) tak pernah dengar pakai U-Boat

[ Last edited by  HangPC2 at 3-10-2007 12:24 AM ]

pcboss

Tak salah aku jerman berminat nakkan pulau langkawi sebagai base 'strategik' untuk ekonomi dan military.

matmin77

From what I read , 2 Italian U boats nie were mainly transport U-boats yang bawak material from Japanese controlled far east and back...one of the Italian U-boats nie was sunin the Malacca Straits by a British Submarine..

Anyway nie transcript dari buku yang aku ada Dive, Dive Dive, Subamarines at War by Micheal Gunton


Quote"

Under an agreement with the Germans,signed before the September 1943 surrender, 5 large Italian submarines had been converted into cargo carying vessels capable of making the long journey on the surface, the aim for them to go first to Abang in Sumatera and then to Singapore. Leaving La Pallice at spaced intervals, the Italian Submaine Capellini sailed first , followed by Tanzeli on 16 May, Giuliani on 23 May, Torrelli on 14 June and Barbarigo on 15 June. They carried neither guns nor torpedoes.

All submarines left the French port under German names for this was a German operation. They would take out U-boat supplies to the base in Penang and bring back desperately needed supplies of tin,cotton and rubber. The maximum amount of cargo the submarines could carry was in the region of 150 tonnes on the outward journey and 190 tons on the return journey.

Only 3 submarines made it to the far east, for Tazzoli and Barbarigo were probably sunk by allied aicraft in the Bay of Biscalon the first day out.

During the long and tedious journey all the surviving submariness were spotted by allied aircraft but managed to take evasive action and reach thier destination.Cappellini on 9 July, Giuliani on 30 July and Torrelli on 26 August.

The Italian submarine Cappellini


When Italy signed the armistice on 8 September 1944 , the  war was over for the Italian submarines. All 3 were interned by the Germans, Giuliani was recommisioned was UIT-23 and lost on 14 February 1944 after being torpodoed in the Malacca Straits by the Submarine HMS Tally Ho. The other two submarines were handed over tothe Japanese and both of them were sunked by US forces off Kobe in 1945.

HMS Tally Ho which sunk Giuliani in the Malacca Straits

matmin77

You mean the Kampfgeschwader 200 /"KG200" (Battle wing) squadron...the special Lufawaffe squadron yang operate capture Allied aircraft

...K200 used captured B-17 flying Fotresses and B-24 Liberator bombers on secret missions deep in allied territory..The germans had 7 captured B-17s operating in KG200. KG200 also operated other heavy german aircraft , including the Focke Wulf Condor.

KG200 B-17





If interested boleh baca link nie

http://www.kg200.org/history1.html

alphawolf

Its KG200 actually.

Macam sekarang, tak semua peralatan boleh dibawa melalui udara.

One case in point, Jerman ada menghantar pelan dan airframe Messerchmitt Me 163 Komet kepada Jepun. Uboat yang membawa pelan tenggelam dalam perjalanan. Jadi pihak Jepun terpaksa reverse engineer airframe Komet tadi untuk menghasilkan J8M Shusui.

IceMallet

The question is, org2 Itali tu ada bina base utk subs ker kat Penang?

Muetband5

Kat mana yer U-boat base kt Penang ni yer?

Kat area2 jetty tu ker?

Obersliutenant

kalau dapat cari, tu piece of history suda tu ...

HangPC2

Originally posted by Muetband5 at 1-10-2007 09:04 PM
Kat mana yer U-boat base kt Penang ni yer?

Kat area2 jetty tu ker?

atau dekat Pulau Jerjak

flyboy80

Intereseting Here:

The German U-boat base in penang was PULAU JEREJAK.

I passed through there yesterday and the wharf of U-boat base now is a new wharf for ship building on the island i think.

The U-boat which come to Penang was called Monsoon Boat.

flyboy80

Ohh,

Actucally the U-boat carrying the Me262 engine and blue print was U-864, sunk on the way to Penang.

Then, U-859 successfuly approached Penang and surfaced, the crews all set up for a shore visit but was ambushed by HMS Tally Ho. Sunk near Penang and the wreck is still there. The cargo is the Mercury for Japan!

I done a lot of research on these all....

flyboy80

Beside, before i forget, The German even fly a Arado 196 float plane with Japanese marking around Penang Island!

flyboy80

If you all  go to ATM Museum in Jalan Padang Tembak,

SUPRISE   !!!!

You will see a GERMAN U-BOAT DECK GUN There

Robotech

So, Pulau Jerjak was once the naval base for German U-Boats, 3 of 'em subs altogether.

Interesting ....

Though, I do wonder, did RMN plan acquiring 3 subs (2 operational subs - Scorpene, 1 training sub - Agosta) actually has a bearing with the U-Boat history in Malaya beforehand?

flyboy80

AS you can see,

Mallacca Strait was very unsuitable for submarine operation because its too shallow.

Many many submarines were sunk in Mallacca Strait during WW2 because they can visible easily or the mud thrown by the sub made the aircraft easily to spot them and sink them