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I really wonder with Christians and those who follow the Christians that claimed the Old and New Testament were from God...See below

"And I (God) will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of the flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth" (Genesis 9:11)

What we have seen today, Hundreds, thousands, or millions of living things have been destroyed by God through flood. Is God lying?. Are the Christians and the followers try to play a game here?
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[ Last edited by  eastrun at 28-1-2007 10:06 AM ]

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Post time 28-1-2007 10:08 AM | Show all posts
that's true. But the same thing also hit the muslims nations. THe tsunami? the relentless earthquakes in Iran? THe general poor state of muslim nations? the suppression of muslims by their corrupt leaders?

There is no difference in these things, attributed to natural disasters which were conveniently used by ignorant people to push their own agenda or their beliefs system. You have erred in your view my friend. There are better things to do in life than to start finding faults in other people's belief like doing charitable works, making your own country a better place to live, directing your energy to productive things to benefit all humankind. isnt this one of your commandment from God too?
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 Author| Post time 28-1-2007 10:25 AM | Show all posts

Reply #2 tickmeoff's post

What I was trying to say is...Is Bible true word of God?. God uttered the convenant and yet he never fulfilled the convenant?.

Allah never told the Muslims that He won't give the disasters to the world. But in the Bible, the Christians claimed the He did.

So, It can be said that the Bible is not True word of God. Because may be someone else that put his words into the book and made the false convenant.That is the difference in these things

Can be said also every convenant and every promise in the Bible is false....

What ever it is, the convenant is there and the Christians keep telling themselves that the convenant is from God and it's true...even though now God showed that the convenant is not truth...

[ Last edited by  eastrun at 28-1-2007 10:27 AM ]
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Post time 28-1-2007 12:15 PM | Show all posts
for the record, I am not a christian. I am just neutral and you can say that I am bemused by the constant bickering among muslims/christians. I came across this thread and I am really puzzled why you all cannot live at peace with each other?
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Post time 28-1-2007 01:47 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by eastrun at 28-1-2007 09:53 AM
I really wonder with Christians and those who follow the Christians that claimed the Old and New Testament were from God...See below

"And I (God) will establish my covenant with you; neit ...



Its easy. If you have read the Bible youyrself, you would realise that teh flood was in reference to the worldwide flood during Noah's time.  No such flood happened again since then. Fulfilled.

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Post time 31-1-2007 04:14 PM | Show all posts
What we have seen today, Hundreds, thousands, or millions of living things have been destroyed by God through flood. Is God lying?. Are the Christians and the followers try to play a game here?

But the earth is not destroyed yet...
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Post time 31-1-2007 11:17 PM | Show all posts
Have you read the Bible? Have you read post on top of yours?
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 Author| Post time 4-2-2007 12:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 31-1-2007 11:17 PM
Have you read the Bible? Have you read post on top of yours?


See the verse carefully:

"And I (God) will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of the flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth" (Genesis 9:11)


What we have seen today, not like what I have bolded above...then you claimed the prophecise is fulfilled...Day-dreaming la you....
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Post time 4-2-2007 01:31 PM | Show all posts
salam,
and this one should be bolded too
neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth
i recall the tsunami which caused a great flood and a great damage to Indonesia. contradiction. hmm hmm
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Post time 4-2-2007 08:59 PM | Show all posts
You bolded 'all flesh' didn't you?
Did the tsunami flood all flesh?

You see, you people caould not even read properly and yet you wwnat to challenge the Bible Ahahahahahahahaha.................

Ready to take on a contradiction from the Quran?

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Post time 5-2-2007 02:11 AM | Show all posts
salam,
;neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth
the bolded sentence suggest that there SHOULDNT be any more flood to destroy the earth. and no :no: i dont take it as a continuation from the previous sentence as there was a semicolon (;) inbetween suggesting two different circumstances.
contradiction. . try harder mate.
debmey, please do bring it on your "contradiction".
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Post time 5-2-2007 09:44 AM | Show all posts
You see, muslims take verses selectively to forward their own evil agenda.
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Post time 5-2-2007 10:04 AM | Show all posts
Destroy:

de穝troy      /dɪˈstrɔɪ/  [di-stroi]
杤erb (used with object) to reduce (an object) to useless fragments, a useless form, or remains, as by rending, burning, or dissolving; injure beyond repair or renewal; demolish; ruin; annihilate.  
; ruin; annihilate.


Damage:
dam穉ge      /ˈd鎚ɪdʒ/ [dam-ij]
injury or harm that reduces value or usefulness: The storm did considerable damage to the crops.
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Post time 5-2-2007 12:18 PM | Show all posts
so is the earth destroyed already?
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Post time 5-2-2007 08:07 PM | Show all posts
salam,
You see, muslims take verses selectively to forward their own evil agenda.

erm okay debmey, i'll keep the rest to myself then.
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 Author| Post time 13-2-2007 06:33 PM | Show all posts

Reply #14 Debmey's post

Debmey what about the bolded verse:

"neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of the flood;"

?.

It didn't happened. Many living things killed by the flood. Well...are you sure the convenant is true?. It is not happened my dear. He doesn't need 2000 years to prove to you that the convenant is wrong.

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eastrun
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Post time 14-2-2007 10:30 AM | Show all posts
You see, you can't answer me simple question.
Which means the prophecy was never violated at all.


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Post time 14-2-2007 03:05 PM | Show all posts
Which is more believable, in the holy Quran, the flood was described as localized, i.e it only happened during Prophet Nuh (pbuh) time, not universal as proven from archeological sources!




Quran 7:64 But they rejected him, and We delivered him, and those with him, in the Ark: but We overwhelmed in the flood those who rejected Our signs. They were indeed a blind people!






Maurice Bucaille wrote "The Bible, The Quran and Science" on the flood he said.



Noah and the Flood The Biblical description of the flood in Genesis chapter 6, 7 and 8 indicates that the deluge was universal and it destroyed every living thing on earth, except those present with Noah (pbuh) in the ark. The description suggests that the event took place 1656 years after the creation of Adam (pbuh) or 292 years before the birth of Abraham, at a time when Noah (pbuh) was 600 years old. Thus the flood may have occurred in the 21st or 22nd Century B.C.


This story of the flood, as given in the Bible, contradicts scientific evidence from archeological sources which indicate that the eleventh dynasty in Egypt and the third dynasty in Babylonia were in existence without any break in civilisation and in a manner totally unaffected by any major calamity which may have occurred in the 21st century B.C.

This contradicts the Biblical story that the whole world had been immersed in the flood water. In contrast to this, the Quranic presentation of the story of Noah and the flood does not conflict with scientific evidence or archaeological data; firstly, the Quran does not indicate any specific date or year of the occurance of that event, and secondly, according to the Quran the flood was not a universal phenomenon which destroyed complete life on earth. In fact the Quran specifically mentions that the flood was a localised event only involving the people of Noah.



ALLAH IS GREAT
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Post time 14-2-2007 04:51 PM | Show all posts
Really How big was the flood in the Quran? 1m? 2m? 10m? 50m?
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Post time 15-2-2007 01:48 PM | Show all posts
Well, my feeling is telling me as wide as the whole Singapore island being immersed under the sea and totally dissapeared from earth.
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