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Sj鴈n This user has been deleted
Post time 30-4-2005 01:06 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
out curiousity.... are you an atheist? if you are then  do you believe in the evolution of man? and other living creatures?

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Post time 30-4-2005 12:25 PM | Show all posts
Sj鴈n: out curiousity.... are you an atheist? if you are then  do you believe in the evolution of man? and other living creatures?

I noted you are new. I have debated with Debmey not long ago on atheism. Look at some of the old posts and you will find them.

As a note.
When you ask "are you an atheist?" you need to have a very open mind as there a lot of meanings & perspective on the word 'atheists'.

If is just like asking, What is love?. Basically love is something like bonding, but there are thousands of ways of describing it.
It is the same with the word 'atheist' as far as i am concern.

Personally, i do not accept the 'God Exist' theory.
For simplicity and discussion purposes i may be called an atheist, but i would like to different from the normal perceived atheists. Do not associate me with 'terrorists' atheists. FYI Buddhists are also atheists.

Strictly and specifically i would like to be called  'APWDNATGET',  which means A Person Who Do Not Accept The God Exists Theory.  As you can see 'APWDNATGET' is not a practical word, so we use the nearest word 'atheist'. My inclination would be more of a rationalist-atheist.

I not very interested in discussing evolution. However i do believe evolution of the specie based on solid available evidences that demonstrate evolution that occur during for a certain period of time. I will avoid speculations that humans are decended from monkeys.

There are many website discussing and debating evolution/creation. exmple,
http://www.talkorigins.org/
I think it is a waste of time for me.
It would better to understand how your own human brain evolve and what is going on and happening in the otak.
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Post time 30-4-2005 02:52 PM | Show all posts
Those do not believed in God Exists will suffered in long run. then they will realise they need God.

trust me, i hve seen many of them.
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Post time 30-4-2005 04:13 PM | Show all posts
muchomike wrote:
FYI Buddhists are also atheists.

I don't really agree on this.Buddhists lack belief in materialism and objective reality where all atheists believe in.This is a distinguishing factor that sets atheists apart from buddhists.Perhaps calling buddhists as quasi-atheists or as non-theists would be a more accurate term?

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Post time 1-5-2005 12:08 AM | Show all posts
Nobody wants to be labeled as an atheist nowadays cos they know it is an illogical position.
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Post time 1-5-2005 08:30 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-5-1 12:08 AM:
Nobody wants to be labeled as an atheist nowadays cos they know it is an illogical position.

Really? MuchoMike seems to have no qualms on being labelled as an atheist,a rationalist-atheist.

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Post time 1-5-2005 09:03 AM | Show all posts
The definition of an atheist is very simple, but you will never see mucho directly admit to it. Just look at the previous threads.

Anyway, it is illogical for one to be an atheist.
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 Author| Post time 1-5-2005 01:31 PM | Show all posts
theres no such thing as a rationalist atheist btw....
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Post time 1-5-2005 03:32 PM | Show all posts

"All thinking men are atheists." Ernest Hemingway, American author (1899-1961).



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Post time 1-5-2005 09:33 PM | Show all posts
Goodness, Faithhealer have to name drop, and of all people, Hemingway, as if he's God. Ahahahahahaha...............................

I think its the opposite. All thinking men cannot be atheist.

Can Faithhealer tell us how he can prove that something does not exist unless he knows everything?
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 Author| Post time 1-5-2005 11:57 PM | Show all posts
an Very blunt statement faithealer, youre name tells me youre a hypocrite too, you are indeed a believer of no faith than why call yourself faith healer?,

owh gawd, all thinking men are atheists? dont give me dat crap man, everyone thinks as long they have a brain
atheist cant even make a stand on how life come about.

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Post time 2-5-2005 02:05 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-5-1 09:33 PM:
Goodness, Faithhealer have to name drop, and of all people, Hemingway, as if he's God. Ahahahahahaha...............................

Here another one for laugh..
"I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman!"
- Homer Simpson

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-5-1 09:33 PM:
Can Faithhealer tell us how he can prove that something does not exist unless he knows everything?

Do you think Superman do not exist? Never mind.

Okay.. if God exist.. he will strike me with a lightning bolt and kill me before i can finish this sentence.

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 Author| Post time 2-5-2005 02:30 AM | Show all posts
ahh  GOD HAS PUNISHED YOU

HE made your heart blind
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Post time 2-5-2005 02:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sj鴈n at 2005-5-1 11:57 PM:
an Very blunt statement faithealer, youre name tells me youre a hypocrite too, you are indeed a believer of no faith than why call yourself faith healer?,
Well i could call myself TheSaviour.. but i guess you wouldn't like that too..
Originally posted by Sj鴈n at 2005-5-1 11:57 PM:
owh gawd, all thinking men are atheists? dont give me dat crap man, everyone thinks as long they have a brain
atheist can even make a stand on how life come about.

Someone said.. Everyone is Born Atheist.

Its true, we are all atheist when we were born.
Parents and teachers brain wash us into believing deities and turn us into Hindus, Bahais, BuddistChristians..catholics, protestants methodist etc, Muslims.. shaia sunni sufis etc  

Guess i am becoming a Born Again Atheist..



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Post time 2-5-2005 02:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sj鴈n at 2005-5-2 02:30 AM:
ahh  GOD HAS PUNISHED YOU

HE made your heart blind


Which God?
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 Author| Post time 2-5-2005 03:04 AM | Show all posts
you were asking  GOd would strike you wif lightning when you bla bla
but nooo God gave you an even worse fate

a blind heart

i suppose you can call yourself the saviour... at least it suits more perfectly to the puzzle,

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Post time 2-5-2005 07:46 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sj鴈n at 2005-5-1 11:57 PM:
an Very blunt statement faithealer, youre name tells me youre a hypocrite too, you are indeed a believer of no faith than why call yourself faith healer?


Obviously his nick "FaithHealer" is meant to be satirical.Get it?
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Post time 2-5-2005 07:51 AM | Show all posts
I think Faithhealer sounds confused.
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Post time 2-5-2005 12:15 PM | Show all posts

what is a born again Atheist

worst than animals???
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Post time 2-5-2005 12:22 PM | Show all posts
no, its just a defence mechanism by Faithhealer. Baiduri does things like that too sometimes. No need to get angry with him.
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