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Ayah Pin bagi pendapat penganut hindu!..

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Post time 8-8-2011 12:08 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Kita semua tahu bahawa ajaran Ayah Pin mengikut pengakuannya ada kena mengena dengan agama hindu. Aku nak bertanyakan kepada penganut hindu di sini, apakah pandangan kamu semua tentang ajaran Ayah Pin ini.
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Post time 8-8-2011 04:54 PM | Show all posts
Kita semua tahu bahawa ajaran Ayah Pin mengikut pengakuannya ada kena mengena dengan agama hindu. Ak ...
paler kembang Post at 8-8-2011 12:08


Mula2 sekali, CUBA KAMU JELASKAN MACAM MANA AJARAN AYAH PIN KENA MENGENA DGN AGAMA HINDUISM?

Kamu kenal ke agama Hindu DAN menjadi pengikut Ayah Pin sehingga boleh buat kenyataan mengarut yg kedua2 ajaran tersebut ada kaitan antara satu sama lain?
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 Author| Post time 8-8-2011 05:44 PM | Show all posts
Reply 2# Sephiroth


    Aku harap kamu kaji balik tata bahasa yang aku tulis, sebelum kamu mengatakan bahawa aku membuat kenyataan mengarut! tolong kita berbicara secara terbuka... selepas kamu faham maksud pertanyaan aku baru kita berbicara secara baik... aku tidak buat satu kenyataan dan tuduhan, sebaliknya aku bertanyakan kepastian, minta faham bahasa dulu baru kita berbicara lanjut, kalau tidak ianya amat memalukan.
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Post time 9-8-2011 08:48 AM | Show all posts
Reply  Sephiroth


    Aku harap kamu kaji balik tata bahasa yang aku tulis, sebelum kamu mengat ...
paler kembang Post at 8-8-2011 17:44


Jangan nak memandai suruh orang mengkaji apa2. Biadap sungguh kamu mengeluarkan kenyataan yg (ajaran) Ayah Pin ada kena mengena dgn agama Hindu dan bila diminta jelaskannya, kamu suruh orang lain menbuktikan kenyataan kamu pula.
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 Author| Post time 9-8-2011 09:52 AM | Show all posts
Maaf, aku letakkan maksud ayat...
ajaran Ayah Pin mengikut pengakuannya...... = di mana 'nya' dalam ayat itu bermaksud diri ayah pin.

Mungkin ayat berikut senang sikit difahami.  

'Ajaran ayah pin, di mana mengikut pengakuan dari ayah pin sendiri......." kenyataan itu bukan dari aku sendiri.  Dan seterus aku ingin bertanya penganut hindu tentang pengakuan ayah pin itu.  Itu jer.. jika perkara ini, aku yang kena maki.. bermakna kau cuba cari pasal... sedang aku dengan sopan bertanyakan soalan. Jawablah dengan bersopan, Sebab aku tak ada hal dengan kau pun...  jangan kurang ajar.
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Post time 9-8-2011 10:08 AM | Show all posts
Maaf, aku letakkan maksud ayat...
ajaran Ayah Pin mengikut pengakuannya...... = di mana 'nya' dalam ...
paler kembang Post at 9-8-2011 09:52


Ayah Pin boleh mengaku apa2 yg dia suka, BUKAN BERMAKNA IANYA BENAR SAMA SEKALI.

Kalau esok Ayah Pin mengaku dia Jesus Christ, kamu nak mengaitkan dia dgn Christianity?
Kalau esok Ayah Pin mengaku dia Buddha yg baru, kamu nak mengaitkan dia dgn Buddhism?
Kalau esok Ayah Pin mengaku dia itu Kalki, kamu nak mengaitkan dia dgn Hinduism ke?
Ataupun kalau esok Ayah Pin mengaku dia itu Iman Mahdi, kamu nak mengaku dan mengaitkan dia dgn Islam ke?

Tolong FIKIR sikit. Jangan nak mengaitkan seseorang dgn agama tertentu semata2 kerana dia mengaku menjadi sesuatu. Ada BANYAK benda2 yg perlu diteliti sebelum sesuatu pengakuan itu dianggap betul atau salah.
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Post time 9-8-2011 11:07 AM | Show all posts
The Danger of Cults (Agama Sesat)

This thread does have it's merits. I have checked wikipedia and found some interesting fact about Ayah Pin.

Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Kingdom

The commune features some structures which are symbolic of the group's ideology. Some notable symbols include a two-story high cream coloured teapot[3] with matching blue vase, costing RM 45 million. The teapot is said to symbolise the purity of water and "love pouring from heaven". It is the earthly model of a celestial prototype. According to Ayah Pin, it was inspired by the dreams of one of his followers, and reflects a similar vessel in the sky which God uses to shower his blessings on mankind.[6] Followers who visits the commune for the first time have to drink "holy water" from the vase which is "perpetually" filled by the teapot.[6]

Another notable feature in the compound is an equally large yellow umbrella,[3] which offers "a place for people to take shelter beneath God." It is said that this can also be associated with the nine planets in Hinduism."[7]

Other symbols present include an ornamental fishing boat,[3] identified with Noah's Ark, and a crescent moon icon[3] symbolizing people without a religion, including the Orang Asli (indigenous peoples of peninsular Malaysia) and the aforementioned Orang Bunian.[7]  


It is common for a cult to associate itself with already established beliefs in order to preserve itself and attract followers (something which I said in a thread in religious section earlier). In this quote, it is obvious that Ayah Pin tried to attract followers from various religions (including Hinduism and Christianity) by taking various symbols and use them. I also remember reading somewhere that Ayah Pin proclaiming himself to be Sage Vyasa (who written down Mahabratha) somewhere.

Also, see the list below (in See Also) to see just how many people proclaim divinity. People should read all these and be cautious of cult members.
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 Author| Post time 9-8-2011 01:52 PM | Show all posts
Tolong FIKIR sikit. Jangan nak mengaitkan seseorang dgn agama tertentu semata2 kerana dia mengaku menjadi sesuatu. Ada BANYAK benda2 yg perlu diteliti sebelum sesuatu pengakuan itu dianggap betul atau salah.
Sephiroth Post at 9-8-2011 10:08 AM

Wo wo wo... sorry sorry sorry,  kalau macam ni aku tak nak berbincang atau berforum di sini.. rupa-rupanya tak boleh langsung bertanya... sorry tuan... aku tak nak tanya dan bincang di sini lagi.. sorry.
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Post time 16-10-2011 01:36 PM | Show all posts
yg menghairankan,kenapa org hindu di bt caves sanggup meminum air rendaman kaki ayah pin?siapakah beliau di mata penganut hindu trsebut?dan kenapa sami2 di bt caves tidak menegahnya?
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Post time 17-10-2011 09:09 AM | Show all posts
yg menghairankan,kenapa org hindu di bt caves sanggup meminum air rendaman kaki ayah pin?siapakah be ...
fdcaprio Post at 16-10-2011 13:36


Oi Syaitan, cakap itu baik berbukti. MANA bukti kau? :@
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 Author| Post time 17-10-2011 10:41 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 17-10-2011 12:34 PM | Show all posts
OK Syaitan ... Ahem ... Paler kembang. Saya dah tengok clip yg kamu bagi itu. Kamu buat andaian yg SALAH sama sekali.

Kesalahan kamu adalah :

1. Kamu andaikan upacara menbasuh kaki Ayah Pin berlaku dlm Batu Caves kerana ada menunjjukan Ayah Pin ada masuk Batu Caves sebelum itu.

2. Kamu andaikan semua orang Hindu ada mengambil Ayah Pin sebagai tokoh agama semata2 kerana perbuatan setengah orang. Kamu sudah lupa bahawa agama sesat ini tidak hanya mengenal orang Islam shj.

3. Dan andaian (yg salah) ketiga adalah - kamu mengandaikan bahawa semata2 kerana Ayah Pin dilayan oleh Sami dlm kuil Hindu (Batu Caves terutamanya), ianya bermakna semua orang Hindu melayani Ayah Pin.

Ini adalah tiga andaian salah kamu yg menyebabkan kamu boleh mengeluarkan kenyataan bodoh di atas.
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 Author| Post time 17-10-2011 03:01 PM | Show all posts
Masih tak paham rasanya;,
"aku tidak mengandaikan", maaf kalau kau silap paham.
topik asalpun aku hanya bertanya pandangan...
Jika pertanyaan itu ditafsirkan sebagai satu andaian atau tanggapan, maka keluarkan maki hamun dari tulisan kau. Kan aku dah minta maaf.. (lihat posting #8) Untuk video di atas pun aku tak tulis sebarang ayat pun.. jangan 'Syaitankan' aku...
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Post time 17-10-2011 03:15 PM | Show all posts
Masih tak paham rasanya;,
"aku tidak mengandaikan", maaf kalau kau silap paham.
topik asalpun aku ...
paler kembang Post at 17-10-2011 15:01


Aku faham dgn teliti. Kamu yg menbuat andaian yg salah dlm hal ini. Spt apa yg aku katakan, kamu lihat satu scene di mana Ayah Pin berada di dlm Kuil Batu Caves (di siang hari) dan melihat scene yg lain - upacara di waktu malam, dan menbuat andaian kejadian (kedua) itu berlaku di Batu Caves.
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Post time 19-10-2011 12:42 AM | Show all posts
korang layan la mamat tak reti bahasa ni. buang masa


you are just... LEMBU
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Post time 19-10-2011 08:04 AM | Show all posts
korang layan la mamat tak reti bahasa ni. buang masa


you are just... LEMBU
letter2 Post at 19-10-2011 00:42


Oi, Syaitan ... KALAU tak ada apa2 berguna kau nak cakap, BERAMBUS boleh tak? Bangsa biadap. :re:
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Post time 3-11-2011 03:07 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 29-12-2011 02:57 AM | Show all posts
Mana pi Ayah Ping ni skrg...? Tak kan tak dapat kesan lagi..?
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Post time 29-12-2011 11:27 AM | Show all posts
Some if not most of his followers are muslims, does that mean his teachings have something to do with islam?

You stated, he mentioned that his teachings are connected to Hinduism (fyi: Sanatama Dharma is the actual name of Hinduism) and wanted to know the view of Hindus. So let me answer you. It has nothing to do with Hinduism at all.
If you say that him going to Batu Caves or any other temples for that matter shows that Hindus/Hinduism accept his teachings as part of Hinduism, then you are wrong. Act of acceptance by a very small number of Hindus (if it's true what you say) does not reflect the whole community.
Hindus do not stop anyone from entering temples even if you are from another religion or dismiss Hinduism totally. To us, everyone is equal...including ayah pin who looks like someone who needs help (psychologically)
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 Author| Post time 30-12-2011 07:11 PM | Show all posts
Reply 19# Freako-2


    Aku suka jawapan awak.. Bersopan dan berisi...
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