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Spain spends £230MILLION on new trains... only to find they're too big to fit through tunnels



The blunder has led to two travel bosses being sacked
Carl Bennett SENIOR DIGITAL PRODUCER


PUBLISHED Wednesday 08 February 2023 - 14:48









An “outrageous botch-up” has caused dozens of new trains to be too big to travel through tunnels in Spain.
The blunder has led to two travel bosses being sacked.
The national rail operator, Renfe, and track company,
Adif, have had a war of words over the costly mistake, which has caused new services to be delayed until 2026 – two years later than expected The left-wing coalition government have also been attacked for failing to notice the error ahead of time.
The country’s transport minister, Raquel Sanchez, said those who were responsible for the mistake would be dismissed.
Renfe confirmed its rolling stock manager had been fired, with Adig announced their technology inspectorate head had also been dismissed.
The 31 new trains, costing €258 million (£230 million) will now have to be redesigned in order to travel safely on their routes, which will serve the northern Spanish regions of Asturias and Cantabria.
Ms Sanchez has said the trains are still in a design phase, therefore minimising the cost of the error, but the president of Cantabria, Miguel Angel Revilla, described the mistake as an “outrageous botch-up.”
“When a project is launched, one assumes the company in charge knows what it has to provide.”
Revilla added: “If it is a train, it has to know the width of the wheels and if the train has to go through a tunnel.”
The Spanish Transport Ministry say the design phase will be completed this summer.
An internal investigation has been opened.
Sources from Renfe say the blame is solely because of Adif, telling Asturian local newspaper La Nueva Espana: “We don’t go and measure the tunnels; we simply take measurements from the company that owns the infrastructure and include them in the specifications of the contract.
“The problem is that the ‘official’ measurements of the tunnels do not correspond to reality.”
Adif hit back, saying it is not responsible for the contract specifications by Renfe.


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dani-rox

ultra78

Sebab tu sebelum projek kena buat site survey dulu. Ukur sendiri di site dan jangan percaya apa yg tulis atas kertas.

TOPwind

Dulu ada keah bangunan seratus tingkat siap tapi tiada lif

so guna tangga jelah.

tapi Msia lagi hebat dah bayar berbilion2

kapal tiada heli pun takde.

yg soglap dok masih rakyat sokong jadi YB

TOPwind

jualah kat org politik msia satu billion euro pasti laku,

airfilterkotor

Barang order vs Barang Sampai.

airfilterkotor

Ntah² saiz terowong telah dikecilkan sewaktu pembinaan.
Geng procurement gerabak pula kekal ikut saiz terowong asal.

batu kikir

Bila orang puteh jadi bodoh bebal....sekor forummerpun tak de yg kutuk.
Tapi bila Indon buat hal........ berjemaah mengutuk kaw2

she

Lawak juga kan
Rasa macam tak masuk akal

kepompong

i penah kena… kontraktor percaya je measurement yg kilang bagi.. tapi benda tak mahal sgt. cuma buang masa/tenaga la hantar barang, reject balik& buat balik… yg ni… siapa la yg nak absorb kos rugi.. tkde siapa meniaga nak rugi

AverageJoe

Tahun 2013 ada berlaku high speed train crash di Spain pun company Renfe ni juga
Agaknya Renfe ni macam KTMB dekat Malaysia lah kot
Punca pasal pilot nya ralit menjawab phone call sampai terlepas landmark utk slow down sebelum sampai selekoh tajam
Boleh try search Santiago de Compostela derailment
Kelakar juga la Spain ni tahun 2013 pun masih pakai sistem manual harapkan pilot utk alert landmark tu

lostnfaun

TOPwind replied at 11-2-2023 08:26 PM
Dulu ada keah bangunan seratus tingkat siap tapi tiada lif

so guna tangga jelah.

Beli kapal selam tapi tak boleh selam. Tue pun yer jgk. Haha

SalenaGomez

So kena tambah kos utk besarkan terowong la kan?? Or jual train ke negara lain lah…rasanya impossible utk kecik kan train tu sbb serupa mcm buat balik keseluruhan

Apa2 pon dlm project kan ada terms n condition…x kan xde paper work before implement? Gomen boleh saman engineer n consultant project

SalenaGomez

AverageJoe replied at 12-2-2023 08:32 AM
Tahun 2013 ada berlaku high speed train crash di Spain pun company Renfe ni juga
Agaknya Renfe ni ma ...

Spain juga…train depa mmg problematic ke?? Takut juga nak naik train depa kalau mcm ni kan

grouper

SalenaGomez replied at 12-2-2023 08:45 AM
So kena tambah kos utk besarkan terowong la kan?? Or jual train ke negara lain lah…rasanya impossib ...

Train masih dlm design phase. Tukar design dlm komputer je bagi kecik muat ikut saiz terowong..

Decaffeinated

Pound dalam english bila translate bm jadi euro

SalenaGomez

grouper replied at 12-2-2023 08:52 AM
Train masih dlm design phase. Tukar design dlm komputer je bagi kecik muat ikut saiz terowong..

Oohooooo my mistake salah baca…tp costly juga ya nak redesign

matamata

Decaffeinated replied at 12-2-2023 08:54 AM
Pound dalam english bila translate bm jadi euro

Decaffeinated

SalenaGomez replied at 12-2-2023 08:45 AM
So kena tambah kos utk besarkan terowong la kan?? Or jual train ke negara lain lah…rasanya impossib ...

Ms Sanchez has said the trains are still in a design phase, therefore minimising the cost of the error,

Besar kan terowong lagi lah costly dgn down time lagi. Aku saspek yg tak muat ni fitting and accessories eg. tanduk tangan etc. masih boleh adjust.

rospinki

Dia order kt shopee 10.10 ke