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Kenapa Bijak Pandai meninggalkan ajaran Bible ???
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Jesus telah membawa ajaran yang benar, tetapi setelah beliau 'mati', ajaran yng dibawanya tidak sunyi dari dimusuhi oleh para penentang, salah seorng ialah Paul. Paul amat memusuhi ajaran Jesus, namun dia gagal melawan iman para pengikut Jesus, akhirnya beliau memeluk agama Jesus dan mengubahnya dari dalam dan mengaku dirinya sebagai orng suci Paul, Sila tontong Fakta ini :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlucDUgMusI&feature=related |
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Jesus telah membawa ajaran yang benar, tetapi setelah beliau 'mati', ajaran yng dibawanya tidak sunyi dari dimusuhi oleh para penentang, salah seorng ialah Paul. Paul amat memusuhi ajaran Jesus, namun dia gagal melawan iman para pengikut Jesus, akhirnya beliau memeluk agama Jesus dan mengubahnya dari dalam dan mengaku dirinya sebagai orng suci Paul, Sila tontong Fakta ini :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlucDUgMusI&feature=related |
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Reply 19# tora bora
Kristian orthodox dari zaman Para Rasul beriman Yesus itu TUHAN.
Tetapi kemudian datang Arius, berkata TUHAN cipta Yesus. Tetapi Arius juga percaya...melalui Yesus TUHAN mencipta alam semesta. Ini bermakna..Arius percaya...TUHAN mencipa Yesus kemudian melantik Yesus mencipta dunia.
Melalui persidangan Nicea..umat Kristian sekali kali hanya mengesahkan kristian sejak zaman dari para rasul beriman Yesus adalah TUHAN...kerana itu Arius ditolak. |
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Gigih...
Abiz segala kat google/utube ko copy paste kat sini.... |
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Reply 27# tora bora
Yo saudara,
Mungkin saudara boleh bantu saya utk memahami Firman-Firman ini.. Saya dah berikan kpd geng saudara tetapi takde yg nak bagi ulasan. Memandangkan saudara ini begitu beria nak katakan Yesus dijadikan Tuhan pada tahun AD325.
Yoh 1:1; 1 Pada mulanya adalah Firman; Firman itu bersama-sama dengan Allah dan Firman itu adalah Allah.
Yoh 1:14-15; 14 Firman itu telah menjadi manusia, dan diam di antara kita, dan kita telah melihat kemuliaan-Nya, yaitu kemuliaan yang diberikan kepada-Nya sebagai Anak Tunggal Bapa, penuh kasih karunia dan kebenaran. 15 Yohanes memberi kesaksian tentang Dia dan berseru, katanya: "Inilah Dia, yang kumaksudkan ketika aku berkata: Kemudian dari padaku akan datang Dia yang telah mendahului aku, sebab Dia telah ada sebelum aku."
Yoh 1:29-30; 29 Pada keesokan harinya Yohanes melihat Yesus datang kepadanya dan ia berkata: "Lihatlah Anak domba Allah, yang menghapus dosa dunia. 30 Dialah yang kumaksud ketika kukatakan: Kemudian dari padaku akan datang seorang, yang telah mendahului aku, sebab Dia telah ada sebelum aku.
Buku Yohanes dikatakan ditulis pada zaman AD70. Dan masih wujud salinan sebelum AD325. Jadi, caman si council nicea yg saudara katakan itu yg menentukan Yesus sebagai Tuhan. Fikir dan renungkan.
Sekian. |
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Banyak ayat dalam Bible sendiri yng menyatakan bahawa Jesus bukan 'God', seperti berikut :
Jesus was not god
Matthew 19
17, Mark 10:18
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Matthew 27
46, Mark 15:34
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mark 16
19
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
John 8
40
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God.
John 14
28
My Father is greater than I.
John 20
17
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Acts 17
31
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
1 Corinthians 11
3
The head of Christ is God.
1 Corinthians 15
28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Colossians 3
1
Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
1 Timothy 2
5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
Maka hanya ada pula ayat yang mengatakan Jesus adalah 'God'... MAKA BENARLAH KATA DR. BART, BAHWA BIBLE INI HANYA TULISAN MANUSIA YANG BANYAK KESILAPAN DALAM SALINANNYA... CAMPUR ADUK DIANTARA YANG ASLI DGN PEMIKIRAN MANUSIA...
Biasalah dlm sejarah manusia, apabila pengikut mengagungkan seseorng Tokoh, mereka akan cenderung memuji keterlaluan Tokoh itu, sehingga ada yng menganggap Tokoh itu sbg 'Tuhan'.... |
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Utk makluman bersama :
Why does John the apostle state that Jesus was the Word which was God that became flesh (John 1:1,14)?
English translations of John 1:1 affirm that the Word was God, that is, Yahweh. The original Greek does not do this, because there is no definite article (in English, the definite article is the word "the") before the second theos, the Greek word for "GOD." The definite article is used in almost every use of theos to identify the Supreme God. Theos without the definite article can identify a lesser being, or a human with divine authority. As for John 1:14, "the Word" is the Greek word logos, which is translated at least a couple of dozen different ways, but literally means "something that is spoken." That is what a word is. A word is meant to convey a message. God's message is conveyed in different ways, spoken, written, and finally, in the flesh, Jesus Christ.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_ca ... od_at_the_same_time |
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Dr. Bart telah membuktikan manusia melakukan kesilapan semasa membuat salinan demi salinan pada kitab suci, kesilapan salinan adalah kerana manusia, bukan Tuhan, sila lihat bukti ini :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfRkgukXyE4 |
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huuhuuu lagi kuat semangat ni utk mendalami bible kalu camni.....nak tengok sejauh mana kebenaran posting ini....mm..i think this is interesting...mari kita semua baca bible..jangan asyik dengar cakap orang ja.... |
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Reply 34# tora bora
Now, are you trying to change the bible??
The Words are very simple to understand, clear and precise. Everyone who read it would have the same idea. How can you misguide it by saying it is a error in the translation which is just a theoretical assumption. These verses have been around for so many years, interpretated by the best minds of the time, and you want to say that these bunch of scholars errs in their translation and did not realize about it?? Wow... I mean the person who provided the answer in the wikipedia must be more brilliant interpretor than all those people put together.
Can you tell me how "message", "Word of God" and "God" writing in a very simple sentence can be misinterpreted into what you claims. The Words wrote were not in riddle terms, bro... I'm guessing you are just trying desperately to justify yourself.
Regards. |
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