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[Tempatan] 10 Tahun Dulu, PKR/PH Selangor batalkan Projek Canal City - projek cegah banjir.

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Post time 23-12-2021 11:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Iols cuma kesian org yg beli rumah kt tmn sri muda
Sape yg batalkan projek ni sebenarnya??
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 Author| Post time 23-12-2021 11:43 PM | Show all posts
Edited by lurkingaround at 24-12-2021 02:58 PM

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https://www.skyscrapercity.com/t ... ates.1216571/page-2 - 17 Sep 2008
Canal City project to go ahead despite review

by Tony C H Goh
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KUALA LUMPUR: The Selangor state government will allow the development of Canal City to go ahead, despite the need to review some of the details regarding its effectiveness as a flood mitigation project with the developers, said Selangor Menteri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim.

According to Khalid, the review is needed as the state government felt that canals were not the most viable solution to alleviate floods in the southern part of Selangor. He felt that the construction of retention ponds would be more appropriate.

“The canals may be able to prevent floods in the city itself, but ultimately could overflow rivers and cause flooding in other parts of the states. Our view is that the property development and flood mitigation work must go hand in hand to ensure the success of the project,” Khalid said after the dialogue session with Japanese investors here yesterday.

The RM10 billion-project essentially was mandated to Kumpulan Europlus Bhd (KEuro), a company where IJM Corp has an associate stake.

Separately, IJM Corp and KEuro has estsblished a joint-venture company to undertake the RM10 billion Canal City project which is essentially a property development over 1,983 hectares (4,900 acres) in Kuala Selangor. In return for getting the land from the state, the joint venture is to undertake a flood mitigation project for Selangor.

So far, the joint venture has invested some RM130 million in the construction of ponds and canals, resettlement expenses for the Orang Asli in the area and land acquisitions.

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Cakap banyak dan batalkan Projek Canal City tapi kerajaan PKR/PH Selangor tiada menyelesaikan masaalah banjir teruk setiap tahun sejak 2008.


Bukankah terusan buatan manusia sepanjang 18km yang dirancang dibina oleh kerajaan UMNO/BN Selangor dulu dalam Projek Canal City sama spt kolam air tadahan yang panjang dan besar, iaitu ia boleh menakung  banyak air hujan lebat dari kawasan2 hulu Sungai Klang dan Sungai Langat dari risiko membanjiri kawasan2 hilir sungai spt di Taman Sri Muda dan bandar Klang, iaitu macam SMART Tunnel di KL.?

Projek Canal City mungkin dapat mencegah banjir kilat spt di Yan, Kedah baru2 ini, yang kedudukannya macam Taman Sri Muda, iaitu di hilir sungai. .......

https://www.bernama.com/bm/tintaminda/news.php?id=1995899 - Bencana Banjir di Yan, Kedah : Salah Siapa? - 25 Ogos 2021
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Post time 24-12-2021 12:32 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
noreen sangat perangai
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 Author| Post time 24-12-2021 03:38 PM | Show all posts
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Sila rujuk ke tered berkaitan yang terbaru yang ada lebih maklumat dari PM6 Najib. .......

https://bm.cari.com.my/forum.php ... =5012205&extra=  - Kalau PH Tak Batalkan Canal City Dulu...' - Najib - 24 Dis 2021 - pos#18

Perspektif PNSB berhubung Canal City
Permodalan Negeri Selangor Berhad
Diterbitkan:  Apr 3, 2014 4:44 PM

Dikemaskini: 4:47 PM

Berikutan laporan media mengenai penjualan tanah Tropicana kepada Eco World Development Group Berhad. Permodalan Negeri Selangor Berhad (PNSB) ingin memberikan perspektif mengenai penjualan tanah ’Canal City’ kepada Dijaya Corporation Berhad (Tropicana Corporation) pada tahun 2013.

Pada asalnya, tanah seluas 1,172.28 ekar ini merupakan sebahagian tanah bagi pembangunan Projek Tebatan Banjir (PTB).

Namun projek ini dibatalkan kerana hasil daripada laporan kajian ‘desktop study’ daripada Jabatan Pengairan dan Saliran (JPS) Negeri Selangor memutuskan adalah tidak perlu untuk membangunkan projek tebatan banjir kerana keupayaan bagi kolam-kolam takungan banjir sedia ada adalah mencukupi.

Dan pembatalan projek ini telah dipersetujui oleh Majlis Mesyuarat Kerajaan Negeri (MMKN) pada tahun 2010. ...


Justeru, Lembaga Pengarah PNSB dengan syor Pengurusan PNSB bersetuju Dijaya Corporation Berhad ditawarkan tender RFP tersebut dan menerima tawaran pulangan minima berjumlah RM1.297 billion. ...


= nampaknya alasan yang diguna oleh kerajaan PKR/PH Selangor untuk membatal Projek Canal City pada 2010 tiada memberi manafaat kepada Rakyat Selangor untuk mencegah banjir teruk, spt banjir teruk yang melanda Hulu Langat dan Taman Sri Muda pada 18 Dis 2021,  ... melainkan .memberi banyak keuntungan RM bilion2 kepada syarikat Menteri Besar Inc sejak 2010.
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 Author| Post time 24-12-2021 08:53 PM | Show all posts
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Saya dapat korek tentang Projek Canal City sampai tahun 2004 - ada syarikat Cina terlibat. .......
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https://www.skyscrapercity.com/t ... on-updates.1216571/ - May 2004
Plans to build massive waterfront city near Putrajaya




BEIJING: A massive canal city with a self-contained township comprising residential, commercial and tourism development with interconnected canal waterways will be built in Selangor.

The RM3bil project is being undertaken by Permodalan Negeri Selangor Bhd, the investment arm of the state government, and Kumpulan Europlus Bhd via Canal City Construction Sdn Bhd.

The proposed canal city would cover about 5,400 acres of land to be developed into a waterfront city.

The company has secured the participation of the Shimao Group, through the purchase of about 1,300 acres of land, within the Canal City project, which is located near Putrajaya.

The Shanghai-based Shimao Group, which is one of China’s leading property developers, undertook the signing of the sales and purchase agreement here in conjunction with the visit of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Deputy chairman Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye signed on behalf of the Malaysian group with Mr Hui Wing Mau, the chairman of the Shimao Group.

One of the Shimao Group’s projects is the Shimao Rivera Garden, where a total of RM3.6bil was channelled into investments to build a series of high-rise luxurious residential towers overlooking the Huangpu River in Shanghai.

The project was ranked No. 1 in the Shanghai property market for the year 2001 and 2002.

According to a press release, through the partnership, Shimao Group would invest about RM450mil in the purchase of land.

The sale of the land and development of the project would be used to finance the construction of two infrastructure projects.

They are the construction of the network of canals connecting the Klang River to the Kuala Langat River as part of a flood mitigation scheme in Selangor.

“A by-product of this construction project is the creation of a canal city occupying an area of about 5,400 acres,” it said.

It would finance the Shah Alam 2 Expressway connecting Shah Alam to Berjuntai Bistari, to be renamed Shah Alam 2.

“The 40km toll-free expressway will reduce travelling time from Shah Alam to Shah Alam 2 to about 23 minutes,” it added.

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Post time 25-12-2021 09:59 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
R2D2 replied at 23-12-2021 03:05 PM
Time buruk, habis semua kisah kisah silam kena korek

Sepanjang i duduk selangor 28 tahun selalu
i redah hujan2 tapi biasanya hujan
di sesetengah tempat cth shah alam hujan
kl x hujan. tapi hari banjir tu satu selangor hujan.
tapi bukan dgn keadaan 24 jam lebat
tapi renyai renyai
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gigahertz replied at 25-12-2021 09:59 PM
Sepanjang i duduk selangor 28 tahun selalu
i redah hujan2 tapi biasanya hujan
di sesetengah tempat ...

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Ya, hujan renyai2 tak henti-henti selama >48 jam di seluruh Selangor pada 18-19 Dis 2021.  Di Pantai Timur, hujan sama boleh berterusan sehingga 2 minggu, iaitu tak henti2 = banyak kawasan banjir, spt pada Dis 2014 = tak boleh dicegah, macam banjir akibat taufan. .......

https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjir_di_Malaysia_2014

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Post time 26-12-2021 01:38 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Berapa banyak tered nak bukak daa?
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Post time 26-12-2021 01:40 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Eleh, buat Semak tunnel, eh, Smart tunnel tu pun.KL banjir jugak, inikan pula Canal.city yg.kayakan kroni umngok
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Post time 26-12-2021 01:42 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Btw, IJM.tu company yg.diasaskan oleh Kuan Yew Yin yer, nama yg.sering diratib lobai
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pyropura replied at 26-12-2021 01:42 AM
Btw, IJM.tu company yg.diasaskan oleh Kuan Yew Yin yer, nama yg.sering diratib lobai

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Untuk pengetahuan anda, dia telah bersara pada 1983 dan sekarang berumur 88 tahun. Itu projek perumahan IJM Corp adalah pada tahun 2011-2012.  .......

Koon Yew Yin                                                                                                                                Koon founded three public-listed construction firms: Gamuda, Mudajaya Group and IJM Corporation. Since retiring in 1983, he writes about public issues affecting Malaysia, dispensing investment advice and giving to charity, including an annual RM1 million student grant to Universiti Tunku Abdul Rahman.
https://www.prestigeonline.com/h ... er-40/yew-yin-koon/

Sejak dia bersara, dia suka buat hal membantah Kedudukan Istimewa Melayu 1957 kerana dia penyokong kuat DAP. .......

https://www.malaymail.com/news/m ... foot-in-mou/1781594 - 2019/08/17 - saying-sorry-is-not-enough-army-veterans-tell-ijm-founder-after-foot-in-mouth
SHAH ALAM, Aug 17 — A group of 15 retired soldiers from Selangor have added their voices to a growing choir against Tan Sri Koon Yew Yin over the prominent tycoon’s description of the Malaysian Armed Forces are “doing nothing except eating and sleeping”. ...

The tycoon is being investigated under Section 505(c) of the Penal Code for incitement.


Dia mau Malaysia sentiasa berperang ke.? ... supaya ramai anggota2 tentera mati dan cedera.? Apa lagi Cina mau.?
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Post time 26-12-2021 03:16 PM | Show all posts
projek canal city untuk rakyat

PH batalkan dan jual tanah kat kroni untuk buat perumahan mampu tengok

rakyat selangor dapat ape ye hasil dari penjualan tanah tu?
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 Author| Post time 26-12-2021 03:29 PM | Show all posts
pyropura replied at 26-12-2021 01:40 AM
Eleh, buat Semak tunnel, eh, Smart tunnel tu pun.KL banjir jugak, inikan pula Canal.city yg.kayakan  ...

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Adakah banjir di KL seteruk di Selangor pada 18-19 Dis 2021.? .......

... Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian Alam Sekitar dan Air, Datuk Seri Dr. Zaini Ujang berkata, sepanjang tempoh berkenaan, terowong tersebut berjaya melencongkan lima juta meter padu air sejak diaktifkan pada 1.32 tengah hari 18 Disember sehingga 12 tengah hari 19 Disember. ...


“Walaupun hujan lebat dan Empangan Batu melepaskan air dengan bukaan 300 milimeter atau 20 peratus pada pukul 11.15 pagi Sabtu, kawasan sekitar Kuala Lumpur hanya mengalami banjir-banjir kecil kerana tindakan segera yang dilakukan,” katanya.


Sementara itu, menerusi satu kenyataan yang dikeluarkan oleh Syarikat Mengurus Air Banjir dan Terowong Sdn Bhd (SMART), memaklumkan lima juta meter padu air sudah berjaya dilencongkan dari Sungai Klang dan Sungai Ampang ke Kolam Takungan Taman Desa. ....

https://www.kosmo.com.my/2021/12 ... uta-meter-padu-air/ - 2021/12/21 - terowong-smart-rekod-22-jam-lencong-5-juta-meter-padu-air

Kalau tak dibatalkan pada 2010, Projek Canal City pun boleh cegah banjir kilat teruk di Selangor. Banyak negara2 lain telah bina terusan2/"canals" untuk mencegah banjir dan juga sejak dari  zaman purba dulu2. .......


https://www.chinatravel.com/guid ... grand-canal-purpose - Purpose of Beijing and Hangzhou Grand Canal
Xia Dynasty

... A new leader promising a better mousetrap hired a minister to find a better solution to the problem of flooding; the previous Minister for Waterworks, a certain Minister Gun, had in fact been held responsible for the violent floods during his tenure, and ended up paying the ultimate price for his 9 seasons of failure: he was executed!

The new Minister for Waterworks, Minister Yu, decided to try something else: out were dams; in were diversionary canals, i.e., canals that could divert the overflow elsewhere, as well as serve as reservoirs in their own right. The new flood control strategy worked so well that Minister Yu became a national hero, and, as so often happens – from Roman times down to the present – the famous general who wins the war becomes such a hero that he ends up scoring his boss' job, which is precisely what happened in the case of Minister Yu, who became Emperor Yu, or Yu the Great. ....

Eastern Zhou Dynasty - 600BC

... For example, a dam might be designed to lightly flood a valley (with numerous reservoirs and sluices to regulate the water level) so that rice could be grown there. Reservoirs could hold water to be used to get through shorter drought periods, while canals could divert water to specific locales instead of having to flood entire areas. PM Sun made use of all of these tools to address the agricultural problems he faced. Much later, Sun Shu-Ao was recognized as China's first hydraulic engineer. ....

The ingenious practice of diverting the overflow of the Yellow River via flood canals continued down through the Tang Dynasty and Five Dynasties (CE 907-960) period.  ...

Song Dynasty - 1200AD

... Thus the Han Chinese tradition of flood control via the construction of diversionary canals continued, though on the Yangtze River instead. ...

These flood control measures would naturally continue on both drainage systems during most of the remainder of China's dynastic period, with greater zeal during periods of peace, i.e., during periods of unification, which was largely the case after the emergence of the Yuan (CE 1279-1368) Dynasty. Of course, parallel with the notion of flood canals, China continued to build dams on rivers as a way to contain them, or so it was hoped.  ...

Ancient Chinese Waterworks

Two famous, ancient – but still functioning – Chinese waterworks, one a dam and the other a canal system, are:

Dujiangyan Dam a diversionary canal (irrigation canal) system, originally built in BCE 256 during the Warring States period on the Min River in Sichuan Province, near the capital, Chengdu.

Mulan Dam (Reservoir [木蘭陂]) – originally built in CE 1064 as a dam across the Mulan River in Fujian Province near the city of Putian, ...


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Dulu2 di Cina, menteri berkenaan yang tak dapat selesaikan masaalah banjir untuk manafaat Rakyat dihukum mati.!

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." / Mereka yang tak belajar dari sejarah akan mengulangi mala petaka itu.

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Post time 26-12-2021 09:50 PM | Show all posts
lurkingaround replied at 25-12-2021 04:44 PM
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Ya, hujan renyai2 tak henti-henti selama >48 jam di seluruh Selangor pada 18-19 Dis 2021.  Di Pa ...

Selangor tak pernah hujan x berenti selama 2 hari .
kalau Shah Alam hujan tapi Kuala Lumpur panas tu perkara biasa.
pakai baju hujan kat klang tu adalah perkara biasa.
sebab langit gelap hujan tak turun.
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Post time 27-12-2021 01:39 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
lurkingaround replied at 26-12-2021 03:06 PM
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Untuk pengetahuan anda, dia telah bersara pada 1983 dan sekarang berumur 88 tahun. Itu projek pe ...

Aku.saje je pancing ko. Aku.tau ko taksub apek Kuan yew yin. Cuit sikit je menggelupo menghambor ko jadinya
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Post time 27-12-2021 11:35 AM | Show all posts
pyropura replied at 27-12-2021 01:39 AM
Aku.saje je pancing ko. Aku.tau ko taksub apek Kuan yew yin. Cuit sikit je menggelupo menghambor k ...

canal city cancel selangor banjir teruk


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Post time 27-12-2021 12:00 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Dekat grup whatsapp, telegram, fesbuk, tiktok dah makin ramai share pasal canal city ni

Rata2 rakyat malaysia sudah sedar rupanya KERAjaan PH la penyebab semua ni

PRU15 nanti kembalikan selangor kepada UMNO insyaAllah masalah berkurangan atau terkawal, bukannya makin bertambah macam sekarang
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lurkingaround replied at 26-12-2021 12:44 AM
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Ya, hujan renyai2 tak henti-henti selama >48 jam di seluruh Selangor pada 18-19 Dis 2021.  Di Pa ...
... Pantai Timur, hujan sama boleh berterusan sehingga 2 minggu, iaitu tak henti2 = banyak kawasan banjir, spt pada Dis 2014 = tak boleh dicegah, macam banjir akibat taufan. .......

https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjir_di_Malaysia_2014

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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/ ... egion-hit-by-floods - 2021/12/27 - dams-burst-in-northeastern-brazil-as-region-hit-by-floods
ITABUNA, Brazil (Reuters) -Two dams gave way in the northeastern Brazilian state of Bahia after weeks of heavy rains, swamping already swollen local rivers as flooding hit towns across the region, authorities said on Sunday. ...
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Satu lagi contoh di utara Brazil, di mana hujan dari angin monsun tropika boleh berterusan atau tak henti2 selama >2 minggu = banjir teruk yang tak boleh dicegah dengan empangan, terusan, terowong, tambak tepi sungai/"levees", dll = kena "live with it"/berseduduk dengannya, macam wabak Covid-19 dan Flu/Selsema. Di selatan Brazil, tiada masaalah banjir begini. .......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil#Climate

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 Author| Post time 27-12-2021 03:15 PM | Show all posts
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- The Giant Underground Tunnels Protecting Tokyo From Floods - 1,572,632 views - Jul 8, 2019

Projek Tangki/Terowong ini terletak 60km/1 jam perjalanan ke utara Tokyo dan kosnya US$3 billion/RM12 bilion pada 2000an. Ia berjaya mencegah atau mengurangkan banjir kilat di kawasan yang terjejas dulu, iaitu 130,000 hektar sehingga 7 kali setahun.
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Jadi, kerajaan PKR/PR/PH Selangor sepatutnya sudah awal2 ada projek2 mencegah atau mengurangkan banjir kilat, spt projek Jepun di atas dan Terowong SMART di KL, dan bukannya hanya tahu batalkan Projek Bandar TERUSAN(Canal City) pada 2010. Adakah perbuatan ini hanya sebagai membangkang kerajaan pusat UMNO/BN dan main politik kerana pada masa itu ramai penduduk2 Selangor sokong pembatalan Projek Bandar TERUSAN.?



- Tokyo Flood Prevention | Insane underground tunnel system in Japan! -3,749,546 views - Oct 28, 2014
= penerangan yang lebih jelas tentang Tangki Air Gergasi ini dan cara2 mencegah banjir kilat atau mengurangkan kesannya

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Post time 27-12-2021 03:18 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
lurkingaround replied at 27-12-2021 03:15 PM
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- The Giant Underground Tunnels Protecting Tokyo From Floods - 1,572,632 views - Jul 8, 2019

Beza jepun dengan kita

Jepun tak bergantung kepada desktop study semata mata untuk memperjudikan nasib rakyat
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