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NST, Transgenders ~ Apa Kata Orang Agama

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Post time 20-12-2009 02:08 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Post Last Edit by saudagar_mimpi at 20-12-2009 14:09

Di NST hari ni ada kuar liputan ttg isu transgenders susulan dari kes Fatine Young..antara bahagian menarik dlm artikel tersubut ialah pandangan dari pemimpin pelbagai agama termasuk Islam, Kristian smpai ke Buddha..baca dan buat penilaian...wallahualam..

WHAT THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS SAY

“From a Christian perspective, human beings are created by God, in the image of God. God created everything and He pronounced it as good. However, all of creation has gone wrong because the first human beings chose not to listen to God and since then we have a topsy-turvy world. “We who are not in their situation need to empathise with them and help find solutions rather than to judge them and say, ‘live with what you have’. That’s a simple phrase from this side of the fence, but insufficient. “We must try to understand them and help them as we have helped others in different situations, for we all suffer the consequences of our flawed common humanity. “We can’t sit in the judgment seat as if we are God. Our hearts should go out to them and work on finding a solution for their situation.” - Tan Kong Beng, Christian Federation of Malaysia executive secretary

“In Hinduism, these people are a creation of God. In our religious stories and book, there have been accounts of transsexuals who have been treated with due respect.. “Society accepted transsexuals then, especially because they were able to handle many different situations. “Today, we too have to respect every creation of God, giving them due dignity and respect.” - Dr M. Bala Tharumalingam, Malaysian Hindu Sangam deputy president

“Transsexuals are born like that and our birth is not in the hands of human beings. It’s not the choice of a person to be male, female or a transsexual. “The public should not blame him or her. It’s not like they are breaking rules and laws. They must be given respect just like you and me.” - Harcharan Singh, Malaysian Gurdwara Council president

“There is no such thing as a transsexual, people are either male or female. It is not something you can change. Even if a man wants to be a woman using surgery, it won’t work because you can’t change what God gives. “Some of these people are confused because of psychological reasons. Maybe in their family they were the only boy among nine girls, playing with their sisters and cooking. Those are some of the problems that contribute to this. “People must accept what is given, they should dress and behave accordingly so they are accepted by the public. When a man wears a girl’s dress, people will make fun of him. In Islam, it is haram. You can’t question religion.” - Tan Sri Harussani Zakaria, Perak mufti

“In Buddhism, we don't interfere with personal affairs. At the same time, we respect their privacy and get involved only if they ask for help. We look into the matter and share with them. When someone asks for help, we maintain noble silence. It's very personal. “In our area of discipline, when someone wants to be ordained, we ask if the monks can check their background. If the person wants to be a woman, we refer to a nun. If the person has unusual behaviour, we allow them to be ordained as a novice monk.” - Kekanadure Dhammasiri, Buddhist Maha Vihara Malaysia monk and counsellor



untuk artikel penuh : http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/20seual-2-2-2/Article/index_html
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Post time 20-12-2009 02:21 PM | Show all posts
Fatine Young: “Transsexuals in Malaysia have been treated like freaks or second class citizens for far too long. I hope the community becomes more accepting of transsexuals. “We just want to be what we are. Give us a chance to show that we can contribute to society too.

aku xnafi, some of the pondans mmg berjaya. but most of them???
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Post time 20-12-2009 04:07 PM | Show all posts
aku xnafi, some of the pondans mmg berjaya. but most of them???
geenie Post at 20-12-2009 14:21
fail sbb dipinggirkan masyarakat..... last2 terjebak dlm pelacuran.....
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Post time 20-12-2009 04:13 PM | Show all posts
gender dysphoria
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Post time 20-12-2009 04:22 PM | Show all posts
hindu ngan buddha terima fonen ni?
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Post time 20-12-2009 11:55 PM | Show all posts
kalo tak silap aku.. dlm dokumentari 'the 3rd gender' kat natgeo..
agama buddha la yg paling tolerate dgn pondan ni..
tu pasal kat thailand banyak ladyboy..
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Post time 21-12-2009 12:05 AM | Show all posts
refer case hyde V hyde , Corbet V corbet dan byk lagi ttg kes transgender or tranxsexual
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Post time 21-12-2009 12:05 AM | Show all posts
Tak silap aku dalam Kristian pun tak terima pondan nie. Lagipun pendapat Kristian diorang takleh bulatkan dalam satu generalization jah. Sbb Kristian nie ada Katolik, Protestan, Ortodok bagai. Sama mcm Islam jugak. Islam Liberal dan Ijtihad lebih menerima golongan pondan.

Bagi aku lar kan... aku boleh terima pondan. Tapi jgn sampai bedah alat sulit nak jadi wanita bagai.. jgn berpakaian wanita bagai. Sbb mmg jelas, lelaki takleh berpakaian wanita dan sebaliknya. In case dia nak drag depan kawan dia, mgkin itu boleh diterima.. tapi jangan lar pegi cikcur sambil drag. Dahlah cikcur, drag pulak tu. Itu yg tak boleh diterima. Kalau mmg sifat semulajadi pondan, lembut, minat jantan - itu kita takleh nak buang. Tapi kalau boleh, buang sifat nak jadi pompuan.. pakai baju pompuan bagai. Why not berpakaian mcm jantan tulen.. tapi kalau nak memondan nak mematah bagai... itu terpulang. Yg penting, kalau dilahirkan berzakar, jgn beriya2 nak berfaraj pulak.

Aku ada ramai kawan pondan.. tapi Alhamdulillah.. so far semuanya berpakaian jantan ke mana saja diorang pergi. Diorang makeup pun light2 jah.. takder nak berlipstick berblusher bagai. Pakaian tetap maintain pakaian jantan... tapi sifat lembut, pondan, menjerit, minat jantan... itu kita takleh nak ubah sbb mmg naluri semulajadi. Aku penah ada kawan yg drag pegi kuliah satu masa dulu.. tapi aku tak tahan berkawan dgn spesis camnie. Jadi berkawan pun setakat 1-2 hari jah. Lepas tuh aku tak berapa nak layan coz I can't really accept that.
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Post time 21-12-2009 11:37 AM | Show all posts
Siapa yang lantik Mr.Haramsanasini tu bercakap bagi pihak Islam? Prrrrrrrrpffffftght

Dalam semua komen ketua agama dia punya yang paling menjijikan!
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Post time 21-12-2009 11:46 AM | Show all posts
9# Maideen.

abih tu.. mai aku lantik maidenn halal sana ssini.. buleh...?
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Post time 21-12-2009 11:49 AM | Show all posts
9# Maideen.  

abih tu.. mai aku lantik maidenn halal sana ssini.. buleh...?
Nesta13 Post at 21-12-2009 11:46

Nestle13 ka yang lantik? Prrrrrrrrrrpffffftght
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Post time 21-12-2009 11:55 AM | Show all posts
corbet v corbet atau ashley tu lamaaaa punya kess daaa
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Post time 21-12-2009 11:58 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by saudagar_mimpi at 20-12-2009 14:09

it is haram. You can’t question religion.” - Tan Sri Harussani Zakaria, Perak mufti
saudagar_mimpi Post at 20-12-2009 14:08



u can't question religion tu maksudnya apa yewr?.. ai tak faham enggerish
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Post time 21-12-2009 11:59 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by Maideen. at 21-12-2009 12:01

Dari komen komen tu nampak benar agama mana yang kelihatan agama pariah.....

Manakala agama agama mengakui ujudnya golongan transgender dan menganjurkan agar golongan ini dihormati, ada pulak yang kata golongan ini tidak wujud. Buto ko apo?
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Post time 21-12-2009 12:03 PM | Show all posts
corbet v corbet atau ashley tu lamaaaa punya kess daaa
sekngucing Post at 21-12-2009 11:55


so? x blh pakai?....aku ckp refer ja...blh guna as bahan baca tambahan....apa masalah?
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Post time 21-12-2009 12:09 PM | Show all posts
u can't question religion tu maksudnya apa yewr?.. ai tak faham enggerish
alyana Post at 21-12-2009 11:58

Dalam bahasa apa pon phrasa itu adalah sampah! Sampah yang keluar dari mulut orang yang menaku ulamak dan hanya mampu menyumbatkan longkang longkang pemikiran lobai lobai malang yang percaya orang macam Mr. Haramsanasini itu adalah seorang yang berilmu!

You can't question religion habah eh....
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Post time 21-12-2009 12:15 PM | Show all posts
Ramai my frens yang macam nie... berjaya..jadi doctor..engineer... etc..
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Post time 21-12-2009 12:19 PM | Show all posts
7# atomicman

hehe..budak law ek..ke da jd loyer? neway dlm kes ni pon british law tak accept transex ni kekdahnye.
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Post time 21-12-2009 12:25 PM | Show all posts
In my humble opinion, muslims in high positions such as Harrusani should not be concerned about how trangendered people live their lives. Transexuals deserves the same rights as any other people. Harrusani should be concerned about the muslims who are so blinded by hatred for others that they are willing to kill innocents, all in the name of god.
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Post time 21-12-2009 12:43 PM | Show all posts
dunia akhir zaman
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