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(MERGED) KERJAYA DALAM POLIS, TENTERA & APMM

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Post time 2-8-2006 07:40 AM | Show all posts
Kalau US Gomen leh nak cuba tarik minat youngsters melaui cyberspace, why not jabatan Kempen kita 'meniru' apa yg baik dari negara2 jiran kan?
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Post time 2-8-2006 08:24 AM | Show all posts
MINDEF kena betulkan dulu persepsi public on kerjaya tentera. Rata2 bila ditanya mengenai kerjaya dgn tentera, automatik public akan terfikir ttg askar galas senjata masuk hutan. Tapi sebenarnya dlm tentera ada byk cabang perkhidmatan lain termasuk la cabang professional spt doktor, engineer dsbg.
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Post time 2-8-2006 08:38 AM | Show all posts
Perlu juga ditonjolkan kerjaya peringkat sokongan dan lain-lain yang lebih menarik dari kerjaya awam...contohnya iklan RN beberapa tahun lepas. Ditunjukkan seorang mekanik dalam pit sedang merepair bahagian bawah kereta dengan tajuk Submarine Engineer dan ayat dalam iklan tu memancing pembaca dengan mengatakan lebih menarik jadi Submarine Engineer sebenar dari menjadi engineer/mekanik yang 'submerged' bawah kereta.
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Post time 2-8-2006 09:58 AM | Show all posts
saingan institusi ketenteraan adalah institusi swasta, jadi kalau dari segi gaji kita nak lawan apa
yang swasta bagi memang tak boleh kita lawan, tapi aku syorkan supaya setiap tentera pencen mereka kita
beri semasa umur 48 tahun dan beserta rumah, dimana rumah ni mereka akan potong duit gaji mereka
semasa mereka berkhidmat dalam tentera, bukan apa kalau kita naikan elaun dan gaji tentera pun belum
tentu kita dapat lawan sektor swasta.
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Post time 2-8-2006 10:24 AM | Show all posts
Nak tarik perhatian...
Manusia akan tertarik biasanya kerana...

1. $$$ + material
2. Semangat cintakan sesuatu. Kalau tak ada semangat cintakan negara, payah le nak menarik org ramai. Semangat boleh ditanam melaui ceramah2 biasa atau agama. "Hubbul Watan Minal Iman".
3. Sesuatu yg baru dan menarik perhatian, maksud kawan, peralatan yg diguna oleh ATM mestilah sesuatu yg dpt menarik keinginan belia/org ramai utk mengendalikannya disebabkan kecanggihannya sprt modern tanks, artillery, gunboats, fighterplanes dsb.
4. Jaminan. Masuk tentera bermakna meletakkan nyawa sbg pertaruhan. Pendapat kawan, dgn aset yg kita miliki skrg mungkin masih belum cukup utk memberikan keyakinan bhw mereka akan sentiasa dilindungi.
5. Cerita2 negatif didlm tentera sprt ragging dsb perlu dikurangkan.

Ini cuma pendapat kawan jelah....
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Post time 2-8-2006 10:57 AM | Show all posts
memang betul bulat tapi selagi inisiatif ni tidak diberi perhatian sewajarnya kerjaya tentera akan
hanya diberi kerjaya yang terakhir sekiranya tiada lagi peluang perkerjaan didapati
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:06 AM | Show all posts
Hummm masuk kerjaya apa pun..kalau nak kiok tu kiok jugak....macam engineer ada jaminan ke dia selamat kalau berada di build site?
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:14 AM | Show all posts

Reply #32 alphawolf's post

Betul lah tu... tapi risiko dlm tentera lebih tinggi lagi kan, dan engineer tu mesti akan ambik precaution bila pegi ke building site... dgn best protection yg dia boleh dapat...
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:34 AM | Show all posts
Probably off topic, but why don't the ATM focus on recruitting more TAs? That way u can get professionals to join.
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:38 AM | Show all posts
Tanya sikit... TA tu Askar Wataniah ke? (Territorial Army?)
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:42 AM | Show all posts
Yup TA=Territorial Army
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:48 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bulat at 2-8-2006 11:14
Betul lah tu... tapi risiko dlm tentera lebih tinggi lagi kan, dan engineer tu mesti akan ambik precaution bila pegi ke building site... dgn best protection yg dia boleh dapat...


Ehmmm...setakat hard hat tu..kalau seketul bata boleh lagi kot...kalau selonggok besi ke....konkrit satu baldi ke...

Lagipun kalau kita pamerkan kerjaya tentera sebagai 'selamat',  jika berlaku peperangan, atau ditugaskan dibawah PBB, alamat lari tak mau le..kang depa kata 'I didn't sign up for this'
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:49 AM | Show all posts
yeah like those guys who signed for National Guard duty refusing to go to war 'cos they didn't sign up for war haha! wtf?!
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:51 AM | Show all posts
At least the government can show to us that they are commit to give and provide the best equipment to protect them, it's doesn't mean that we have to promote tentera as a safe kerjaya...
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:53 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bulat at 2-8-2006 11:51
At least the government can show to us that they are commit to give and provide the best equipment to protect them, it's doesn't mean that we have to promote tentera as a safe kerjaya...


Perhaps..and don't forget the stuff the govt give in order to 'reach out and touch someone'
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Post time 2-8-2006 11:57 AM | Show all posts
hai..  aku setuju bila korang cakap bab promosi tu..  kena improve sikit..

in a way, kita patut tengok stail gomen sg..  iklan buat yang hi-class kat tv..  dan berubah-ubah mengikut peredaran masa supaya sentiasa nampak best..
kalau boleh, cover semua area..  combat..  support services (medic, admin, engineering research, academic positions, etc) ..  intelligence..  laut..  udara..  darat..  setiapnya, berasingan dalam promo masing-masing..  variety..  
jadi macam korang cakap, orang akan terbuka minda yang kalau join army ni, bukan terhad kepada perg combat saja..

dan gomen sg make sure hampir kerap kali promo tu keluar..  hari-hari? nilah taktik psiikologi..  dan taktik long-term..  hari-hari nampak promo gempaq camni, usahkan youngsters, malah bebudak kecik rasa bangga tengok army diorang..  dah besar, mesti ada some % of the youngsters yang minat masuk army..

kita dapat 5% dari youngsters kita masuk army pun, dah berapa tu kan?

tu belum kira faktor yang politicians, companies dan ministries yang berebut-rebut nak sponsor itu-ini sebab nak tumpang glamour/raih undi..  keh keh keh..
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Post time 2-8-2006 12:04 PM | Show all posts
"tu belum kira faktor yang politicians, companies dan ministries yang berebut-rebut nak sponsor itu-ini sebab nak tumpang glamour/raih undi..  keh keh keh.. "

Or contracts hehe
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Post time 2-8-2006 03:02 PM | Show all posts
bagi aku yang penting pihak ATM dan juga MINDEF kena kerja sama naikkan imej ATM dan kuatkan lagi PR untuk menarik minat belia.

Rugi la tenaga yang kuat hilang begitu saja
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Post time 2-8-2006 03:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 2-8-2006 11:48


Ehmmm...setakat hard hat tu..kalau seketul bata boleh lagi kot...kalau selonggok besi ke....konkrit satu baldi ke...

Lagipun kalau kita pamerkan kerjaya tentera sebagai 'selamat',  jika berl ...


KALAU BERLAKU PERANG PUN; RAKYAT NAK HARAPKAN TENTERA GAK NAK MENYELAMAT KAN DIRI. KALU RAKYAT BERFIKIRAN CAMNI BAIK JADI BACUL JE
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Post time 2-8-2006 03:17 PM | Show all posts
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