Discus - Such A Beautiful Fish

ummibest · Post time 22-4-2009 10:43 AM

nafham..

bagi aku jelah ikan ko tu...

nafham · Post time 22-4-2009 01:10 PM

hohoho....
klu sumer peralatan ada, blh dipertimbangkan.

ummibest · Post time 22-4-2009 01:50 PM

betul ni?

ni akuarium aku..

tu akuarium kat umah aku skang ni..cuma aku x ada lagi canister filter camko tu...
aku cuma ada top filter..tp sponge and bio ring sume ada kat top filter tu..

amacam? nk kasi kat aku x ikan ko...

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nafham · Post time 22-4-2009 04:05 PM

wah.... boleh. tp bkn skrg. bln dpn aku kasi eh. sblm aku nk gi australia. pm aku between 14-22 may. tgk tetras ko, terkenang tetras aku yg slalu je mati sbb jatuh ke filter bwh....

baby77 · Post time 22-4-2009 04:30 PM

opis mate aku ada bela discuss ni.. aku tgk gambar dia nyer discuss memang cantik2.. dia pun dah berjaya menjadi breeder discuss ni.. nanti aku nak belajar ngan dia lah..

ummibest · Post time 22-4-2009 05:02 PM

ye ker...sronoknya..
ok insya Allah nnt aku pm ko within the date ko bagi tuh..
tetra aku ada dua jenis je lam tank tu..rumi nose dgn colombia tetra..
yg lelain oto, clown loach, moonfish platies, yamoto, banana and green shrimps.
so sumenya yg peaceful and kecik dr discus..

Originally posted by nafham at 22-4-2009 16:05
wah.... boleh. tp bkn skrg. bln dpn aku kasi eh. sblm aku nk gi australia. pm aku between 14-22 may. tgk tetras ko, terkenang tetras aku yg slalu je mati sbb jatuh ke filter bwh....

ummibest · Post time 22-4-2009 05:18 PM

nnt ko plak share kat cni yer... ;)

Originally posted by baby77 at 22-4-2009 16:30
opis mate aku ada bela discuss ni.. aku tgk gambar dia nyer discuss memang cantik2.. dia pun dah berjaya menjadi breeder discuss ni.. nanti aku nak belajar ngan dia lah..

baby77 · Post time 23-4-2009 03:20 PM

ok.. aku pun duk belajar gak ngan dia camner cara dia wat breed discuss ni

ninja boy · Post time 26-4-2009 12:58 PM

lecehnya bela ikan

nafham · Post time 26-4-2009 05:50 PM

mmg leceh tp klu kne pada caranya, mmg berpuas hati pd hasilnya....

ummibest · Post time 12-5-2009 11:13 AM

tqvm nafham...
harap aku dpt jaga ikan2 tu sebaik mana ko jaga mereka..
nnt bila kamera ada bateri (kamera punya charger hilang..misplace..aduh mana lah peginya)
aku snap and paste kat cni yerk..
ko jangan sedih2 yer..sbb ikan2 ko tu aku akan jaga dgn baik...
kalo da ada kat australia jgn lupa berforum kat cni..

Originally posted by nafham at 22-4-2009 16:05
wah.... boleh. tp bkn skrg. bln dpn aku kasi eh. sblm aku nk gi australia. pm aku between 14-22 may. tgk tetras ko, terkenang tetras aku yg slalu je mati sbb jatuh ke filter bwh....

nafham · Post time 12-5-2009 10:01 PM

all my discus oredi at ummibest house.

rajin2 lah tepek gambar nnt. ada 2psg kapel discus yg slalu bertelur. tp slalu sgt kne makan dgn ikan lain telurnyer... biasanyer discus akan bertelur lps kita salin air which is in their habitat, dia org bertelur lps hujan. so mcm tiap kali kita tukar air, dia akan ingt tu air baru yg fresh so dia org akan bertelur... sama jg dgn angelfish tu. rajin jg bertelur tp xde partner wlupun yg ada satu jantan satu betina. tak serashi agaknyer...

harus lah nnt kt australia duk berforum je kat sini...

ummibest · Post time 13-5-2009 01:59 PM

oo ye ker..
kapel yg mana? x tau mana satu jantan mana satu betina..
mesti yg besar2 tu kan..
sbb yg kecik2 kurus tu mcm x baper nk membesar..
satu lagi kan..mereka x baper suka lah tetra bites tu..
mereka lebih suka cacing..
kalo yg tetra bites tu mkn n luah balik..
so kita pagi n mlm bagi mereka cacing..
bagus ker diet mcm tu?

nafham · Post time 13-5-2009 06:40 PM

hahhahaha~ boley je. rajin2 lah cari info. yg kaler biru kilat cantik tu male. partner dia yg strip hitam tapi tak jelas atau lgsg takde. eh, susahlah nk ckp. pepandailah cari. partner lagi satu kaler oren female dgn yg mne tah. tak ingat. sume ikan slamat eh? dah takde tercungap2 mcm 1st time dulu??

ummibest · Post time 14-5-2009 11:15 AM

sume ikan ok..cuma ada 1 ikan (yg oren skinny) x mo makan langsung and dart at one corner only..dia kena worm la..pastu kita rasa yg skinny2 tu sume ada cacing lam badan dia..

so kita baca kena wat metro therapy..
tp x confident lah..
nafham penah buat utk ikan2 tu tak?

nafham · Post time 14-5-2009 03:38 PM

erk!! ikan2 tu baru lepas rawat 2mgg sblm dtg collect ari tu. mgkn tak hilang lagi kot cacing dlm badan. biasa kalau rawat, letak pil apa tah namanya utk internal disease dlm tank tapi dilarutkan dulu. setiap 1 mgg tukar air baru n letak pil tu lagi smp ikan2 tu berselera nak makan.

try google kaedah rawatan tuk internal parasit. ada byk cara. takpe, belajar dari susah2 lah nnt jadikan kita expert psl discus nie.

nafham · Post time 14-5-2009 03:43 PM

rujuk sini. http://www.dallasdiscus.com/diseases.htm

There are some many ways to prevent and treat discus diseases.  The following are just what works for us.  We usually try to keep things simple.

Prevention

The only prevention we use are garlic in beef heart mix for internal parasites (hexamita, etc.)  Discus are very easily infected with parasites (wasting away and white feces.)  Prevention is key with internal parasites. Other things are just to keep the water condition in stable range, feeding varieties of foods, etc.

All new fish that we get are quarantine for at least 3 weeks and monitored for diseases.

To sterilize equipments (i.e. tanks, nets, etc), we use regular household bleach.  Rinse thoroughly afterward.

Treatments

First, we will increase the water temperature to 86-88 F.  Also, a higher ratio water change is done before treatment.  The following are the medications that we use.  These methods may not be the best, but it works for us.

1. Epsom Salt (Magnesium Sulfate) -  for gastrointestinal bloating or before treatment of internal parasites.  We usually use 1 Tablespoon/10 gallon. Works within 24 hrs.  We repeat treatment for two more days if no results.  Fish will start eating like mad after treatment.
2. Quick Cure (Formalin, Malachite green) or 37% Formalin alone- or any common medication with same chemicals.  Just follow directions from bottle.  We use them to treat external protozoan parasites, gill flukes, Costia, and Trichondina.
3. Methylene Blue - Use for fungal infections and ick.  Also add to breeding fish to prevent fungal infection on discus eggs.
4. Praziquantel- Excellent medication for flukes and internal parasites (capillaria,etc).  We have more success with this med and less side effects than Flubendazole, Piperazine or Albenazole.  We pretreat with Epsom salt first to clean the GI tracts of fish.  Praziquantel is not very water soluble.  Therefore, we use a blender to dissolve them with water.  Other hobbyists have used acetone to dissolve praziquantel.  Dosage is 10 mg/gallon.  One dose is effective for seven days.  No water change is done during this time.  Usually a second treatment is needed after seven days to prevent reinfection by dormant cysts/eggs.
5. Metronidazole - Used for protozoan internal parasites (i.e.Cryptobia,Hexamita,etc.) Also excellent antibiotic for gram negative bacteria in the gastrointestinal tract infections.  With metronidazole,  we mix them in small amounts of water.  Then we soak them in dry foods (i.e. Tetra Colorbits, Hikari discus, etc.)  Wait ten minutes until drug has soak into food before feeding.  Again, we pretreat with Epsom salt 24 hrs before metronidazole treatment.  We find that this pretreatment step with Epsom salt has a synergistic effect.

Other disease that we have no success with treatments are swim bladder type of diseases.  We are lucky in that discus plague has not been a problem (knock on wood).

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hari tu rawat discus guna kaedah yg no 5 tu, pil metronidazole. beli kat farmasi, 30sen sebiji. ada byk kt uma ni sbnrnya. lupa nk bg. tp yg baiknyer kalau dpt cari Epsom Salt. cuba cari hari tu, tapi tak jumpa.

ummibest · Post time 15-5-2009 09:24 AM

a ah baca kat cni jugak..
tp at the same time baca kat simplydiscus forum tu
tp derang kata kena wat 100% WC 2-3 kali sehari sbb metro tu effective utk 8 jam saja..
buat sampai hilang white feces tu..
nk kena beli akuarium kecik satu la kot..
sbb takan nk buat 100% water change tuk akurium besar tu sehari dua kali..
yg lain makan cuma orange yg skinny tu langsung x mo mkn

btw...epsom salt tu kena cari kat farmasi jugak ke?

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nafham · Post time 16-5-2009 01:58 AM

susah2 beli yg tank plastik je ataupun letak dlm baldi... tak pastilah epsom salt tu mne nk dpt sbb cari kat farmasi pn, org farmasi tu tanya kita balik apa tu.

ummibest · Post time 18-5-2009 08:59 AM

epsom salt da dpt...kat watson jusco kat umah ada jual...
tp antibiotik tu pulak x dpt..ty da guardian n watson dua2 kata tu x boleh jual sesuka hati sbb dia antibiotik..kalo kat independant farrmasi ada kot..2day baru nk g cari kat inde farmasi...ikan oren yg kecik skali tu..dia la yg sakit..
today harap dpt pil tu..n boleh stat treatment..da letak ikan tu lam epsom salt da..
a ah beli akuarium kecik..tp bukan plastik sbb plastik kecik..beli kaca tp yg murah punya..lam rm45..