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Post time 6-8-2008 09:27 PM | Show all posts

Balas #60 Liza\ catat

TQ Liza...

frankly speaking Liza...i've been waiting any lawyer outside there to be directly/indirectly involved or at least offer themselves to assist any poremer kat sini yg ada any question berkaitan undang2..

Sejak saya dilantik menjadik MODERATOR kat sini..mmg saya tertunggu2 dan akhirnya Liza dtg and voluntarily offer tuk jawab soklan...

Pasal kalau ada mana2 lawyer yg sanggup utk jawab persoalan dr Poremer lain ..amat2 dialu2kan...tak kisah sesaper pun..but so far yg saya tahu ....ada beberapa org yg pernah membantu poremer2 lain menjawab soalan yg dikemukakan..it just that ...derang tak selalu ada kat sini ...jawab 2-3 soalan...then MIA..   

So...really appreciate apa yg liza buat dan offer dan saya gembira sgt dan terus stick topik ni...

Berkenaan dengan Title yg telah diedit....Title LEGALLY YOURS tu nampak cam "kosong" .. ....that a reason why saya tambah ayat Q & A dibelakang title tu...
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 Author| Post time 6-8-2008 10:19 PM | Show all posts

Reply #61 medangmru's post

I mean, this thread:



Was it necessary to make it 'disappear'? In future... saya fikir tak payahlah pindahkan soalan
ke sini. Biarlah soalan tu di tempat asal. Boleh juga orang lain bagi pandangan masing-masing.

I also appreciate what you have done.  You have given me the opportunity to test my own
knowledge and see how far I can go.. it's amazing how much I know and yet didn't realise
that I know what I know until the questions are posed to me and I found myself responding
with ease.. I don't know what came over me when I extended the invitation that day. Perhaps
I was just feeling bored with doing the same thing over and over again, day in and day out,
that I simply needed something new and challenging to tackle :bg:
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Post time 7-8-2008 07:40 AM | Show all posts

Balas #62 Liza\ catat

Errr......entah la Liza.....supposed to be " This Thread has been sticked " camtu...sbb pin kat atas ..ini down la plak....cam fungsi " Bump/Down la plak...

It's Ok..just ignored je mende ni...lgpun skang ni Server Forum Cari still unstable...ada post yg tunggang terbalik...

Versi Malay Forum plak :-



[ Last edited by  medangmru at 7-8-2008 07:47 AM ]
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Post time 7-8-2008 10:54 AM | Show all posts
Puan Lawyer, thank you again!
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Post time 7-8-2008 05:24 PM | Show all posts
puan lawyer
saya ada soalan
saya beli rumah, tapi kira sewa beli
so tak tuka nama la
nanti camana ye?
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 Author| Post time 7-8-2008 06:41 PM | Show all posts

Reply #63 medangmru's post

Maksud saya, benang yang satu lagi tu.. yang dimulakan oleh
katak kiut.. yang ini <-- klik di hyperlink biru untuk melihat apa
yang saya maksudkan.

Anyway, thanks..
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 Author| Post time 7-8-2008 06:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by katak_kiut at 7-8-2008 10:54 AM
Puan Lawyer, thank you again!

You're welcome... and don't call me 'Puan Lawyer'.. you can
call me Liza or Kak Liza.. Tq
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 Author| Post time 7-8-2008 07:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by _ina_ at 7-8-2008 05:24 PM
puan lawyer
saya ada soalan
saya beli rumah, tapi kira sewa beli
so tak tuka nama la
nanti camana ye?

ina,
my name is Liza.. bukan puan lawyer

sewa beli.. ada buat perjanjian bertulis kah?


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 Author| Post time 7-8-2008 10:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by medangmru at 6-8-2008 09:27 PM
TQ Liza...frankly speaking Liza...i've been waiting any lawyer outside there to be directly/indirectly involved or at least offer themselves to assist any poremer kat sini yg ada any question ...

medang.. isn't your fellow moderator, rurouni_khairul a lawyer.. working as a state prosecutor?
I don't know him.. I know this because I just checked out his forum profile :bg:

Can't moderators also assist to answer questions?  Please forgive my ignorance on your do's and don'ts here.. I'm new at Cari Forum.. but I am active in another forum.. US-based.. and the moderators there do help out to respond to queries and also start new threads with factual information.

P.S. Just discovered that moderator fairy_hobbit is also a lawyer.. thus the 'edit'


[ Last edited by  Liza at 8-8-2008 01:10 AM ]
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Post time 8-8-2008 01:55 PM | Show all posts
kak liza
so far takde buat perjanjian apa2 la
sebenarnya macam ni
tuan rumah memang nak jual rumah tu
but kitaorg taknak beli lagi
ingat setahun dua lagi baru mampu nak beli
but he needs money, let say around 50k
balance ngan bank ada lagi 130k
so dia jual 180k
since kami takde duit to give him 50k
dia buat refinance, atas nama dia la kan 180k
kaedahnya sekarang, he got that 50k, and settle bank loan tu
but hutang ngan another bank 180k
so hutang baru ni la yg akan kitaorg setelkan
but nama rumah tu still nama dia
mmm nak buat canne ekk?
kak liza paham tak?
ku pon dah pening haha

[ Last edited by  _ina_ at 8-8-2008 01:56 PM ]
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Post time 8-8-2008 02:22 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Liza at 7-8-2008 06:41 PM
Maksud saya, benang yang satu lagi tu.. yang dimulakan oleh
katak kiut.. yang ini  


Oooooooooo...yg tu....

benang tu di down kan ( berpindah ke page plg belakang).. sbb soalan Katak tu dah berpindah ke thread sepatutnya....itu ajer....
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Post time 8-8-2008 02:28 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Liza at 7-8-2008 10:37 PM

medang.. isn't your fellow moderator, rurouni_khairul a lawyer.. working as a state prosecutor?
I don't know him.. I know this because I just checked out his forum profile :bg:

Can't modera ...


so...since you're here..have you seen him around ( CERLY BOARD ) Liza??

He did inform me about his unavaibility ( buzy at work ..) to Moderate this  BOARD.....i offered myself to moderate and giving credits as well ....This CERLY BOARD has also been labeled as "tanah perkuburan" Board before this...
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 Author| Post time 8-8-2008 06:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by medangmru at 8-8-2008 02:28 PM
so...since you're here..have you seen him around ( CERLY BOARD ) Liza??
He did inform me about his unavaibility ( buzy at work ..) to Moderate this  BOARD...


Yes, I noticed that you seem to be the only person moderating the Board.. and you're
doing a good job.. :bg:  I'm glad you can still find time to ensure that everything is under
control here.
Hey, guess what..?  RK has recently responded to my post on his call to law graduates..




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 Author| Post time 8-8-2008 06:46 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by _ina_ at 8-8-2008 01:55 PM
kak liza
so far takde buat perjanjian apa2 la
sebenarnya macam ni
tuan rumah memang nak jual rumah tu
but kitaorg taknak beli lagi
ingat setahun dua lagi baru mampu nak beli
but he needs mo ...

ina, ina..

How did you end up agreeing to that?  Kalau tak ada written agreement..
masih ada legal contract.. jika dapat dibuktikan bahawa elemen-elemen
berikut wujud:

1. Tawaran (offer)
2. Penerimaan (acceptance)
3. Balasan (consideration)
4. Keupayaan (capacity)
5. Niat (intention)
6. Ketentuan (certainty)
7. Kerelaan Bebas (free consent)
8. Tujuan yang sah (valid object)

Kak Liza nasihatkan ina supaya menulis apa yang dijanjikan dan meminta orang
yang menjual rumah itu tandatangani sama.. di hadapan saksi.. dan minta saksi
tandatangan juga.


Kalau tak ada perjanjian bertulis payah nanti ina nak buktikan bahawa kontrak
itu wujud.  Bukan tak boleh.. tapi payah..

Simpan semua resit bayaran ansuran yang ina buat kat bank.

Failkan kaveat di pejabat tanah untuk menjaga hak ina.  ina beli rumah kan..
bukan apartmen?

Kalau sewa-beli pun.. ada sign agreement kan..?

Setahu kakak, sewa-beli untuk barangan mudah alih.. bukan hartanah.

Petikan dari section 2, Hire-Purchase Act 1967 (Act 212):

揾ire-purchase agreement

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Post time 9-8-2008 11:00 AM | Show all posts
SALAM PN LIZA,
Berbelas tahun yg lepas, ayah saya ada membuat perjanjian jual tanah gunakan khidmat peguam.Sekarang ni ayah saya sudah takda peguam tu dah arwah ke tidak saya pun tak tau...orang yang beli tanah ayah saya tu dah arwah juge....... Dengar cerita dari abang saudara saya tu,deposit sudah diberi, entah betul, entah tidak saya pun tak tau.. sebab dia tu jenis puuuuutarrrr alammmmmm.......Saya ada tengok dalam paper peguam tu dah digantung khidmat guamannya,saya ada juga cari2 pejabat peguam tu kat shah alam...tak jumpe pun....mana dia pegi errr.....?

Jadi, macam mana dengan perjanjian tu ? Minta maaf saya tak simpan surat tu,abang saudara saya yang simpan.
Terima kasih.
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 Author| Post time 9-8-2008 11:43 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bromatt at 9-8-2008 11:00 AM
SALAM PN LIZA,
Berbelas tahun yg lepas, ayah saya ada membuat perjanjian jual tanah gunakan khidmat peguam.Sekarang ni ayah saya sudah takda peguam tu dah arwah ke tidak saya pun tak tau...o ...


Wa `alaikumussalam bromatt...

Perjanjian Jual Tanah tu.. You mean, Memorandum of Transfer?
Yang u sebut 'surat' tu.. dokumen yang sama..?
Ni tanah lot yang ada land title ke..?
What is your real concern?  Ownership of the land? Or, whether full payment had been made to your dad?
Masa buat probate hartanah arwah ayah u dulu, tanah ni tak dimasukkan sekali ke?
Siapa yang jadi pentadbir semua hartanah arwah ayah u? Cuba tanya dia.. mungkin dia tau fakta sebenar.
Once you have the full picture, summarize it here.  We'll see how I can help.


[ Last edited by  Liza at 9-8-2008 01:28 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 9-8-2008 02:06 PM | Show all posts

We are now on page 4...!

Terima kasih semua.. atas sokongan anda.. special thanks to medangmru..
who has given special emphasis to this thread.. and even taken the pain
to copy and paste a question from another thread into this one..

I think I'm the oldest amongst you.. so you can call me kak Liza..

Let us together learn from one another.. You may have some experience
on the subject-matter posed by others.. please let us have your views
and comments as well.. we don't have to wait for my response.. I can only
log on here in the evenings, at night and during the weekends.. whereupon
I will read your queries (if any) and do some research where necessary.. so
if I take some time to give my comments and advice.. please bear with me..
I'll get back to you A.S.A.P.

Saya sedar, ada yang telah meminta saya supaya memberi pandangan "dengan kadar segera".
Oleh itu, saya harap kawan-kawan dan adik-adik semua faham.. kerjasama semua diminta..
saya tidak mahu sebarang tekanan untuk menjawab mana-mana soalan.. saya ke sini
untuk membantu sekadar termampu.. saya akan cuba memberi pandangan atau nasihat
mengikut kelapangan saya.. dan sedaya upaya saya.. jadi saya minta..janganlah mengarah
saya menjawab pada kadar segera.. seolah-olah saya kerja untuk anda pula..


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Post time 9-8-2008 04:15 PM | Show all posts

Reply #77 Liza's post

berita paham Pn. Liza....

To all Forumers yg ingin mengajukan soalan.....saya dah pernah tulis kat sini yang jawapan oleh Pn. Liza akan diberikan jika beliau punya waktu lapang ..tolong fahami yg tugas Pn. Liza disini adalah secara sukarela ...jawapan yg diberikan bergantung kepada senggang dan waktu terluang beliau....

Tolong jgn beri arahan supaya jawapan anda di jawab oleh Pn. Liza dengan kadar pantas ....Beliau juga punya tugas lain yg lebih penting semestinya...

Namun...sehingga kini alhamdulillah....hampir semua jawapan dijawab oleh beliau dalam masa x sampai 2 hari...paling pantas on the dot...TQ Pn. Liza...

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 Author| Post time 9-8-2008 06:15 PM | Show all posts

Reply #78 medangmru's post

Thanks again medang..

You're so kind and understanding.. and.. so generous with your credits..
credits which I sometimes think I do not deserve..

I truly enjoy being here.. it gives me great pleasure to know that my opinion
is appreciated.. and that my knowledge and experience can be of use to help
others.. which is why I don't want to feel pressured or forced to respond.
I want to continue enjoying coming here.. to continue looking forward to be
here.. and I do not want that feeling to change.

I just wanted things to be crytal clear.. so that there will be no ill feeling
or misunderstanding.. But now..
I think everyone has understood.. so there's
no need for us to prolong the issue.

I only hope I did not offend anybody

"Demi masa.. sesungguhnya manusia itu benar-benar berada dalam
kerugian, kecuali orang yang beriman dan mengerjakan amal soleh
dan nasihat-menasihati supaya mentaati kebenaran dan nasihat-
nasihati supaya menetapi kesabaran."

~ Maksud surah Al `Ashr : 1 - 3  ~

Having said that.. I rest my case.  Next question, please..:bg:

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Post time 10-8-2008 08:49 AM | Show all posts

Balas #79 Liza\ catat

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