Homeschooling, anyone?

antiQue

Salam kawan-kawan..

actually just wanna ask dari kawan-kawan yang banyak pengalaman kat sini, anybody here yang homeschool their children? Or is there anybody yg tahu somebody yang homeschool anak dia? Or anybody yang tahu the procedure for homeschooling in Malaysia?

Thanks thanks thanks...

batu_bergolek

Originally posted by antiQue at 26-3-2008 23:33
Salam kawan-kawan..

actually just wanna ask dari kawan-kawan yang banyak pengalaman kat sini, anybody here yang homeschool their children? Or is there anybody yg tahu somebody yang homeschool牋...

pernah jumpa family yg homeschool kat m'sia. tapi爐ak爐anyala燿etail爏bb燼ku爐ak爇ahwin爈agi爅adi爐ak燽erminat爊ak爐ahu.
     
tapi kalo difikirkan balik, kenapala mak aku tak homeschool kan aku, mesti best

batu_bergolek

try nih

http://www.familyplace.com.my/

try carik home education

antiQue

Thanks batu.. will go thru that

batu.. best tu banyak jenis best... best sebab we are able to nurture our love towards knowledge in a more meaningful way, or best sebab takyah pegi sekolah?

batu_bergolek

Originally posted by antiQue at 27-3-2008 00:09
Thanks batu.. will go thru that

batu.. best tu banyak jenis best... best sebab we are able to nurture our love towards knowledge in a more meaningful way, or best sebab takyah pegi sekolah?

yg best takyah pegi sekolah la

bila pagi tu hujan, mintak Guru Besar (mak) start sesi hari tu lambat sikit.


tapi in a way, kalo kene dgn caranyer, homeschooling ni bagus, sbb kita dapat personal attention,
so each learning experience are costom tailored accordingly kepada kekuatan dan kelemahan kita dlm education.

antiQue

Yup... cuma kena betul-betul make sure yang we are homeschooling, bukan "schooling at home". The purpose of homeschooling is to nurture the love towards knowledge, ada sifat sentiasa ingin mengetahui dan mencari ilmu sentiasa without having to wait for somebody else to spoonfeed...

It depends on the type of child juga...

School system yang biasa kita lalui sometimes too rigid dan tak sesuai dengan sesetengah jenis kanak-kanak..  and to some children, ianya kadang-kadang boleh membunuh sifat craving for knowledge.

LostSoul

antique, i would say 'best' byk sbb.. flexibility, no uniform, dedication of the teacher.. since only one student... cume at the same time, the kid might feel kinda left out of normal kids circle.. but this can be encountered by sending him of to some activities after home school time..

on the teacher's side, let say the teacher is the parent, the good thing is parent can also learn at the same time to cope with the kid's need.

saw "briliant brain" series kat NGEO - 8 year old music genius who is home schooled by his single mother.. superb!

my-alja

interesting!...but plss check with akta pendidikan negara nie

i byk gak kumpul maklumat pasal homeschooling sebelum balik sini tapi cikgu kementerian kata, anak2 di m'sia DIWAJIBKAN ke sekolah or kita kena masuk jail....i dah cek dgn a few teachers from diff school..it seems to be true

personally, i fikir kita kena duk dlm crowd yg sesuai utk menjayakan activiti camni.....apa yg mak2 omputih nie selalu buat, depa ajar subjek yg dia suka and pass on the other subje
cts to other parent to take over...so the kids will learn from diff people and try to cope with diff style of teaching.....selain drp akedemik semata-mata, anak2 nie jugak akan buat aktivit dgn parents dan anak2 lain...jadi anak kita taklah jadi anti-social bila bergaul dgn org luar...

screening the type of parents that we have here.....huhuhuhu, they love to send their kids for FREE tuition/teaching what so ever...then they leave u alone to with that responsibility, been there , done that...i gave up!

and dun forget the fact that some kids are too "comfortable" with us as their parent and the teaching process may become very " menyakitkan hati " to us...masa tu lah dia nak berak, dia nak minum, dia nak kencing, dia nak terbang kalo boleh....jadi kalo ade gang dia dlm usia yg sama boleh boost their ego to sit still and learn something just like his frens do....

batu_bergolek

mlm tadi keluar makan supper ngan girlfriend, borakla ngan dia pasal homeschooling ni, dia citer masa dia remaja (highschool) banyak budak kat u.s buat homeschool masa elemantary jer, bila highschool diorang start masuk normal highschool.

Dia kata, kalo start intake baru, blh beza dari segi perangai mana budak yg homeschool dan budak elemantary     . Kalo yg jenis blur-2 tak reti bergaul tu pastu ala-2 freak tu selalunye mmg homeschool la, diorang kadang2 akan jadi mangsa buli senior la, kene pulak budak yg ader frakle dan rambut  merah, memang kene ejek Carrot Head.   

Tapi kebanyakkannye cerdik-2

my-alja

Originally posted by LostSoul at 27-3-2008 07:07 AM
saw "briliant brain" series kat NGEO - 8 year old music genius who is home schooled by his single mother.. superb!
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the lil boy called mark yu ...nie kes adi putra...

i duk bayangkan kalo adi putra duk US, mesti dah masuk NGEO kann....

antiQue

Agreed, Losol...

Many times bila saya cakap about homeschooling, people will say "kesian budak yang kena homeschool, nanti dia tak bercampur dengan budak sebaya dia", which to me is not really a problem. The fact is, budak-budak tidak hanya berkawan masa di sekolah. We can still send them to other activities, taekwando class for eg, summer camp etc, playing circle. Untuk children hidup secara normal, tidak semestinya dia kena be surrounded by children their age all the time.

[ Last edited by  antiQue at 27-3-2008 08:45 AM ]

antiQue

Originally posted by my-alja at 27-3-2008 08:08 AM
interesting!...but plss check with akta pendidikan negara nie

i byk gak kumpul maklumat pasal homeschooling sebelum balik sini tapi cikgu kementerian kata, anak2 di m'sia DIWAJIBKAN ke sekolah ...

hmm.. that's what I thot.. tried to find procedures to homeschool in Malaysia, tak pernah jumpa, hence this thread.

Yeah... the crowd yang sesuai tu is important. Apart from sharing the responsibilities and mix around with each other, boleh juga share to find the most effective way to pass the knowledge to children, and sometimes to share emotion

my-alja

Originally posted by antiQue at 27-3-2008 08:42 AM

Yeah... the crowd yang sesuai tu is important. Apart from sharing the responsibilities and mix around with each other, boleh juga share to find the most effective way to pass the knowledge to children, and sometimes to share emotion

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hehehe...btoi tu, pengalaman i mengajar anak org lagi senang drp ajar anak sendiri....
my mom pun cakap benda yg sama

cantthinkofany

memang bunyinya macam sesungguhnya menguntungkan kedua ibu dan bapa...bonding and custom made....

permasalahannya....seperti yang disebutkan diatas...and to add on

tapi kalau ikut logik gua yang pernah melalui persekolahan dan pekerjaan...gua rasa sistem di malaysia belum boleh menerima homeschooling ni....mungkin kalau setakat additional skill and knowledge...mungkin la...

contohnya...sijil2 peperiksaan penting untuk kemasukan ke college2 atau institusi2 pengajian tinggi....UPSR la...PMR....SPM....taakan mak pak nak buat sijil sendiri kot......

and then biasiswa jugak dinilai bukan sajer ikut akademik tapi jugak ko kurikulum....

and then bila nak apply kerja....maser interview...sijil2 sekolah ni la yang menjadi rujukan tentang keperibadian seseorang...

as mentioned....elementary maybe....additional classes or in lament term tuition by parents....mungkin la boleh menjadi......

just ikut my logic thinking based in malaysian system jer...

kikilalat

tak DIWAJIBKAN... but kena dapat permission from MOE dulu if nak homeschool.

Primary schooling begins at seven years of age and is completed within six (6) years of education. Since 2003, primary schooling is compulsory while home schooling or home-based teaching, that is, children being taught at home, is allowed only with the prior permission of the State Education Department, Ministry of Education.

click for further read >> Malaysian Education: The National Education System

btw, dulu ader dgr radio pasal homeschooling parents in Subang ... ko-korikulum tuh, dorang get together with other homechooling parents to organise physical activities and such.

True-X

kesian lahh.. nnt tak jumper kengkawan,,,,

my-alja

thanks kiki

HOTlips

Salam!
Me ada 3 kwn yg buat homeschooling. 2 s'porean tp menetap kat M'sia. Their kids memang tak pergi sekolah langsung. Sejak kecik.
Yg sorang tu, me salute sgt2. 2 anak dia (lelaki n perempuan) dia hantar gi madrasah buat hafazan Quran. Yg lain2 kat rumah. They have their own timetable. Being a s'porean, english jgn cakaplah... anak2 x de masalah. Dan mind u anak dia 11!

2 anak tu dah tamat belajar. Yg lelaki dah hantar sambung bidang agama kat Jordan. Yg perempuan dok rumah ajar adik2 buat hafazan. Rumah my fren ni dah jd madrasah sekarang ni. Si kakak sulong jd ustazah. Ibu pulak ajar akademik. Ibu ni dulu staff nurse kat S'pore.
Kalau ikutkan mesti ramai yg kata kesian budak2 tu. Tp itu pilihan my fren n hubby dia. Anak2 pun, sejuk mata memandang. Ye, academically mungkin mcm x de. Sijil2 ni  just recognition je. Janji maksud ilmu tu dah disampaikan.
Nak kerje? Kerja yg best2 tu tak de lah. My fren ni anak2 dia 2 je lelaki. Yg pompuan dok rumah. Lelaki je dia hantar jauh2. Agaknya tujuan homeschooling ni nak menyediakan bakal2 ibu yg beriman dan membentuk future generation yg cemerlang dr segi kerohanian. Mcm mana pun, as i said pilihan masing2.

Sorang lg my fren. Hubby dia bertaraf doktor PHD kat UTM Skudai. Dia plak graduate US. Anak2 pergi sekolah keb sampai tamat UPSR. Yg lelaki dok asrama penuh. Yg perempuan buat homeschooling. Sekarang dah terputus hubungan. Tak tahu cerita selanjutnya.

Me juga ada sorg lg kwn. A teacher. Katanya (masa dia kata ni dlm thn 2004/5 gitulah) In future kem pend nak buat open school. Maknanya sesiapa shj entitle utk mengambil peperiksaan di peringkat sekolah mcm SPM, STPM. Tapi x sure pulak pasal SRP. Jadi.. x kesahlah budak tu pergi sekolah atau tidak, masih layak menduduki exam. Kalau sek ren, me x sure. Dan sethn lepas tu dgrnya anak pompuan dia pun x habis belajar sek ren terus masuk madrasah. So, agaknya tak de masalahlah tu. Boleh ambik exam persendirian.

Okeh, citer lagik. Ada jumpa seseorg beberapa bulan yg lalu. Anak ni belajar madrasah. Tp x tanya pulak masa umur berapa. Dah habis belajar kat madrasah, sekarang ni dia belajar kelas persendirian utk ambil SPM. Katanya syarat utk jd calon persendirian SPM, umur mesti kurang2nya 2 thn lebih dr umur budak2 yg secara normal gi sekolah. Maksudnya kalau normalnya 17 thn ambik SPM, those yg x gi sekolah mesti berumur at least 19 thn utk ambil SPM.

Adehh... pjgnya citer!

ajinomotonosuga

ajar anak oang..lai sonang dari ajor anak sendiri

sama lah tu..makan kat kedai mamak lai sodap dari bini masak sendiri walo itu anak mamak tu haa..

sama gak..tempat orang lai besh dari tempat sendiri

haaa apasai? why why why?

mende ni psikoloji. manusia tu asasnya lemah, bersikap tak percaya diri sendiri. So dia akan carik2 sesuatu DI LUAR yang dia fikir tentu lebih baik dari diri dia..sebab dia lemah.

So it is sensible to be or feel kekurangan diri tu

sebab itu ler seme2 apa pun usaha tu kita sebut JIHAD gitu...struggle for excellence. Excel ni pada saya sempurna. terbaik gitu.

tapi adaaa kisah manusia sampai dah level ni kendian terjerumus perangai cam iblis, sombong..bongkak, aku lebih baik dari dia, aaa cam tu sampai lupa dia tu dulu lemah cam mana2 kejadian gak.

tuuuu yang mai konsep 'jalan lurus', actually itu jalan tengah sebenornya, tak lemah sangat tak over kuat sangat..man man gitu

so toksah pangey islam moderate..islam tu dah memang moderate pun. apa pun pekara kene moderate aa gitu. Saya dah tulis saya lagi suka pakai term balanced nak ganti term moderate ni..sebab mende term moderate ni media dah 'lacurkan' , macam term khalwat seme tu..abis osak dah istilah tu seme.

kadang2 perlu homeschooling, esp tempat cam Australia , gila babas luas, negara tu actually the whole continent, benua Australasia . Kat mesia nurse leh kayuh basikal pi sana sini, kat Australia nurse maybe kene naik kapalterbang nak pi sana sini rawat dan cek kesihatan rakyat..haaaa beza.

i think kalo zaman dulu, zaman bukan zaman informasi mudah di dapati dan rakyat baru rasa merdeka, boleh ler gomen wajibkan antor anak ke sekolah gomen seme tu but dalam zaman macam sekarang, para ibu pun walo full time housewife depa salu ada paling cikai sijil terendah, at least tau baca mengira seme tu, dan paling penting ada teknoloji canggih maka kewajipan anto anak kesekolah tu dah tak valid

kalo pendapat saya, kebaikan homeschool tu lebih banyak dan berkesan dari anto ke sekolah, ni especially true masa budak tu umur TUNAS, sebab ni masa paling kritikal PEMBENTUKAN or brain development dia so mak ayah kene KASIK 100 PERCENT fokus. Lepas phasa ni baru anto ke sekolah.

pada saya, kalo kita as RAKYAT btui2 mainkan peranan as rakyat bertanggungjawap, akan molek seme sekolah2 tu untuk anak2 kita, sejak prep sampai ler ke uiniversiti malah lepas kuo uni dan dia jadik manusia berguna untuk society aaa btui tak?
contoh macam ada nya PIBG, aaa cuba tenguk sejauh mana PIBG masing haa? kalo seme main lepas kat cikgu jek..apa kes?

LostSoul

thats the main reason ramai org tak mo home schooling.. but if the re is a will, there is a way.. tak semestinye budak2 home school takde kawan sebaya..

i was wondering esp for genius kids, if they were sent to normal school, mesti boring and out of place. so, kids like mark, adiputra, the best is still home schooling kan.. provided at home, the parents can catch up with those little geniuses mind...