Emal+Networking

esbestos

Hai Smua...

Sbnranya aku x sure nk masuk bod mana berkenaan soklan aku ni..

Kat opis mmber aku tu ade 12 PC n di network kan untuk berkongsi access internet (streamyx) ..tp yg menjadi kemusykilan aku skrang ni ...diorang kate kengkadang time nk anta emel yg ber'attachment' to somebody...emel tu x smpai ..dpt error kat sender tu ... tp kalau anta emel biase je tanpa attachment success jek ...

problem ni kenkadang je berlaku...time problem aku dtg tgok n test ok la plak...huh poning den...

knape problem ni berlaku dan ape langkah pencegahan yg boleh diambil ...

Diharap kawan? dpt mmbantu ye...

Segala Kesulitan Amat Dikesali...

Thanks bbnyak...:tq:

shahnazz

pakai email apa? exchange or lotus notes?

oobi

Originally posted by esbestos at 26-9-2006 09:12 AM
Hai Smua...

Sbnranya aku x sure nk masuk bod mana berkenaan soklan aku ni..

Kat opis mmber aku tu ade 12 PC n di network kan untuk berkongsi access internet (streamyx) ..tp yg menjadi kemusykilan aku skrang ni ...diorang kate kengkadang time nk anta emel yg ber'attachment' to somebody...emel tu x smpai ..dpt error kat sender tu ... tp kalau anta emel biase je tanpa attachment success jek ...

problem ni kenkadang je berlaku...time problem aku dtg tgok n test ok la plak...huh poning den...

knape problem ni berlaku dan ape langkah pencegahan yg boleh diambil ... ...

ada banyak sebab yang menyebabkan email tak sampai. first and foremost, apa error tu cakap? kalau tak tau apa error message tu, susah sikit nak troubleshoot. possible, tapi susah sikit. masa test dan masa betul-betul  hantar email yang ada attachment tu, mungkin tak sama ceritanya. maklumlah, adakalanya, kita test gunakan attachment yang kecik aje sizenya. user pulak, pergi hantar yang sebesar-besarnya. anyway, ni antara sebab-sebab antara berlakunya error tu:

1. inbox recipient mungkin tak cukup besar nak receive attachment tertentu. contohnya, masa test, attachment size is 5K, user's inbox size is only 10MB, but attachment size is 12 MB. so, kena reject ler.

2. mail server recipient boleh accept certain attachment ajer. words, .pdf mungkin okay. tapi .exe dan yang sewaktu dengannya, mungkin tak boleh.

3. mail server recipient boleh accept certain size ajer - ada cap ler ni. macam inbox tadi. so, kalau attachment besar sikit ajer, kenalah reject.

4. sender email provider ada cap untuk hantar attachment. sama dengan #3 kat atas.

5. sender email provider limit bentuk attachment yang boleh dhantar, sama macam #2 kat atas.

6. yang paling last, hehehee.... mungkin email address tu salah kot!

Anyway, mungkin banyak lagi reason but those are among them. so, masa test tu, try gunakan attachment yang user cuba hantar tapi fail.

esbestos

Originally posted by shahnazz at 26-9-2006 10:16 AM
pakai email apa? exchange or lotus notes?

sender ni guna yahoo jek .. yg receiver kat bank islam.. x tau guna ape

esbestos

Originally posted by oobi at 26-9-2006 11:03 AM



ada banyak sebab yang menyebabkan email tak sampai. first and foremost, apa error tu cakap? kalau tak tau apa error message tu, susah sikit nak troubleshoot. possible, tapi susah sikit. masa  ...

OOwwh... Thanks a lot oobi ... bnyak upenye penyebab emel x smpai ek... yg penah akau alami yg las tu jek silap address emel hehe...

Kirenya x de la sbb internet connection ke .. proxy ke ..ape ke ???

nnt aku try komfirmkan blk kat bdk yg keje opis tu tentang sender n receiver punye specification...



Thanks ..:love:

[ Last edited by  esbestos at 26-9-2006 12:26 PM ]

oobi

Originally posted by esbestos at 26-9-2006 11:24 AM
OOwwh... Thanks a lot oobi ... bnyak upenye penyebab emel x smpai ek... yg penah akau alami yg las tu jek silap address emel hehe...

Kirenya x de la sbb internet connection ke .. proxy ke ..ape ke ???  ...

proxy, tak mungkin. kalau email biasa lepas, biasanya bukan disebabkan proxy. internet connection, ada possibility. kalau email ber-attachment tu besar sangat, dan bandwith yang you subscribe dengan streamyx kecik ajer, sangkut juga. boleh pass thru tapi biasanya takes very long time. email ni ada timeout juga. so, kalau dah sampai timeout tu email tu tak 100% lepas, sangkut juga.

esbestos

company subcribe yg 1Mb nye speed so rase x de masalah dgn speed internet tu ..  kkdg attachment yg sekecil 5KB pun x lps ... tp mengikut kata org keje kat sane .. sometimes da urgent sgt nk kena anta emel berattachmnet(*.xls,*.doc)  tu diorang g cyber cafe kat luar... bleh je x de masalah...so masaalah inbox sender@receiver x berlaku kn ...

oobi

Originally posted by esbestos at 27-9-2006 01:46 PM
company subcribe yg 1Mb nye speed so rase x de masalah dgn speed internet tu ..  kkdg attachment yg sekecil 5KB pun x lps ... tp mengikut kata org keje kat sane .. sometimes da urgent sgt nk kena anta emel berattachmnet(*.xls,*.doc)  tu diorang g cyber cafe kat luar... bleh je x de masalah...so masaalah inbox sender@receiver x berlaku kn ...  ...

kalau boleh hantar cari cc, then bukan masalah sender/receiver accounts. 1 Mbps tu pun, besar bandwidth tu. so, should not be a problem. kena tengok macamana network tu dia orang setup pulak. since ada 12 komputer, macamana komputer tu di network-kan? guna hub/switch? kalau hub, ada problem sebab 1 Mbps tu cuma kat gateway aje. internally, mereka share bandwidth. so, kalau ada sesapa download/upload file besar-besar masa tu, problem juga sebab banyak collision. so, network setup memainkan peranan juga. recommendation, always guna switch sebab setiap line is dedicated.
dah dapat apa error message tu?

esbestos

ooo mungkin gak psl network device dia ni oobi ... da tngok da dia guna DLink ADSL ROUTER --> (Edimax 16 Port Switch --> Edimax 16 Port Switch) ... 2-2 switch ... psl error tu dia x bg lg ..klu da ade i inform kat sini..

Thanks oobi ...

oobi

Originally posted by esbestos at 28-9-2006 11:28 AM
ooo mungkin gak psl network device dia ni oobi ... da tngok da dia guna DLink ADSL ROUTER --> (Edimax 16 Port Switch --> Edimax 16 Port Switch) ... 2-2 switch ... psl error tu dia x bg lg ..klu da ade i inform kat sini.. ...

based on above description, tak mungkin network issue. setup tu dah molek dah tu. apa-apa pun, try dapatkan error message tu dulu. kalau dah dapat, post-kan kat sini. kalau boleh, the whole message. boleh tengok betul-betul, apa sebabnya. nak main teka-teka ni, susah sikit.

kapakterbang

ni member ko dah succesfull upload  attach fail tuh kat server yahoo then bila send die kantoi
ke member ko nak upload fail ke server yahoo tp kantoi?
kalo yg pertama mungkin server penerima tuh (bank islam) ada set security/polisi cam attachment dr email public (yahoo,hotmail,etc die block)
kalo kes kedua maybe masalah network ataupon server yahoo itu sendiri

esbestos

Originally posted by oobi at 28-9-2006 01:28 PM



based on above description, tak mungkin network issue. setup tu dah molek dah tu. apa-apa pun, try dapatkan error message tu dulu. kalau dah dapat, post-kan kat sini. kalau boleh, the whole m ...

Hai Oobi... da tnya mber keje opis tu..dia kate success je time send emel berattachment tu (message sent)... tp dekat receiver (bank Islam) check x dpt pun huhu

semakin pelik la problem computer? ni :geram:

oobi

Originally posted by esbestos at 29-9-2006 09:34 AM


Hai Oobi... da tnya mber keje opis tu..dia kate success je time send emel berattachment tu (message sent)... tp dekat receiver (bank Islam) check x dpt pun huhu

semakin pelik la problem comp ...

kalau yang ni, susah nak troubleshoot. kenapa? sebab this happened after the email left sender's server and before reaching recipient's server (usually). perkara macam ni memang berlaku. kira macam, email tu sesat ler dan tak tau jalan pulang. selalu sangat ke berlaku? kalau selalu sangat, jangan guna free email account macam yahoo tu kalau nak hantar email-email tu. especially kalau mail servers tu located beribu-ribu batu dari malaysia. my advice, get one paid email account kat malaysia (kalau subsrcribe dengan streamyx, mesti dia kasi at least one free account) and see if this thing happen again.

esbestos

ooo mcm tu .. tp x silap dia da guna emel streamyx tu dulu sblum dia guna emel yahoo ..tp x pe la atas point yg oobi bg tu yakin skit la nk berhujah depan diorang huhu..

Thanks oobi...

esbestos

Hai Oobi ..

da try da send emel berattachment kat user lain (bukan [a]bankislam.com.my ) eg: yahoo dot com and gmail dot com ..smpai aje emel nye x de masalah siap bleh donlod n baca lg attachment tu ...so kire problem kat bankislam tu lah kn ... tp da suruh mmber tu inform kat bankislam nye staff tp diorang kate diorang nye ok jek .. x taula kn klu diorang x nk ngaku kelemahan diorang

oobi

Originally posted by esbestos at 3-10-2006 11:40 AM
da try da send emel berattachment kat user lain (bukan [a]bankislam.com.my ) eg: yahoo dot com and gmail dot com ..smpai aje emel nye x de masalah siap bleh donlod n baca lg attachment tu ...so kire problem kat bankislam tu lah kn ... tp da suruh mmber tu inform kat bankislam nye staff tp diorang kate diorang nye ok jek .. x taula kn klu diorang x nk ngaku kelemahan diorang   ...

based on that, mungkin masalah kat bank  Islam tu. sebab, ada company memang block attachment from free email services. tapi, kalau dia orang kata bukan on their side, nak buat macamana. the only way nak tau, try hantar sekali lagi and kalau bounce, save error message tu. kalau it proves yang the problem is on bank Islam end, tunjukkan kat mereka.

esbestos

Hai oobi .. smlm mmber tu call sy lg britau problem yg same ..siap tmbah lg kate bukan bank islam je yg x received emel tu bahkan bank rakyat pun same ... klu nk tau the one way yg nk bolehkan bank? tu dpt dengan reply ape yg dia da send kat kte sblum ni..komfem smpai emel tu (means klu nk send emel kat dia kol dia suruh anta emel kosong kat kte and then baru kte send kat dia) ..
da pening da ni huhuhu

oobi

boleh explain dalam bahasa yang betul tak? sorrylah, oobi lama tak dok malaysia dah, tak berapa faham bila tulis sms style ni.

esbestos

huhuh...x pe2 ..saya pun da lame x duduk oversea

macam ni ceritanya..
kan sblum ni dekat office mmber saya tu bile send emel dkt bank rakyat@bank islam ,status message sent ..tp dekat both bank tu x receive ape2 pun ..

semalam dia inform lg..satu cara je nk bank tu dapat ape yg kita send ialah dengan reply ape yg both bank tu da sent kat kita terlebih dahulu ...x kira lah message tu ber'attachment' @ tak ..

clear x oobi??

oobi

Originally posted by esbestos at 5-10-2006 09:08 AM
macam ni ceritanya..
kan sblum ni dekat office mmber saya tu bile send emel dkt bank rakyat@bank islam ,status message sent ..tp dekat both bank tu x receive ape2 pun ..

semalam dia inform lg..satu cara je nk bank tu dapat ape yg kita send ialah dengan reply ape yg both bank tu da sent kat kita terlebih dahulu ...x kira lah message tu ber'attachment' @ tak ...

ohhh.... baru faham. yang macam ni biasanya routing problem. nak troubleshoot susah juga sebab involve more than one different recipient dan bila reply sampai. cuma bila create new email dan hantar yang tak sampai. weird ni! okay, masa reply tu, sebelum hantar email tu, check email address dia orang, sama tak dengan apa yang member you tu type when creating new email? kalau sama, the only way nak check is on your member mail server itself. ni berlaku bila guna both, free email service macam yahoo dan juga paid service macam streamyx, kan? dua-dua kena guna reply instead of create new mail, kan? just nak make sure.