ACCOUNTANT -

DanIno

I nak jadi akauntan tapi SPM Math 6 je camne tu cita2 nak jadi Tan Sri Syed Mokhtar Albukhary yang ke-2......

Gemukkkkkkk

still boleh.. asalkan ada kemahuan, Tuhan akan bagi jalan..

pegi la masuk kerja sebagai audit clerk/audit assistant kat mana-mana audit firm.. besar ke kecik ke medium ke, tak kisah.. dapatkan ilmu dan pengalaman semasa bekerja.. pada masa yang sama, ambik exam ACCA secara private (dengan duit sendiri atau disponsor sesapa).. habiskan semua parts (kalau boleh) dan jika diizinkan Tuhan, dapatlah jadi akauntan..
oh ya.. tak perlu habiskan semua parts dalam ACCA untuk dapat kelayakan sama seperti diploma atau degree..

tapi kalau dapat habiskan semua parts.. boleh cuba ambil 2 lagi paper MICPA.. bila dah lulus, ditambah pulak dengan pengalaman kerja yang berkaitan.. tunggu sajalah headhunter datang offer jadi FC di mana-mana syarikat swasta besar kat Malaysia ni..

nak jadi TSSMA, tak perlu jadi akauntan.. itu kena jadi ahli perniagaan..

Originally posted by penglipur at 31-3-2006 03:02 AM
statistik skang ni...
9.2% mahasiswa dprd field accounting ni menganggur..
skang ni pun..nk amik accountancy kt ipta ssh sgt nk dpt...
sbb ramai yg apply kot..

minat sgt nk jadik akauntan nih ...

one thing for sure..kalau nk jadi accountant ni..jgn amin for degree saje..nanti dead end..at least kene ada master or professional exam as you along the way..study the field you love the most...nanti u x excell kalau x interested...i used to be in UTM skudai...electric electronic engineering...selama 2 bulan sebelum cabut..buat accounting..

Originally posted by DanIno at 2-4-2006 08:08 PM
I nak jadi akauntan tapi SPM Math 6 je camne tu cita2 nak jadi Tan Sri Syed Mokhtar Albukhary yang ke-2......

go back to basic..study from sijil for akaun...jgn give up..

DanIno

Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 3-4-2006 09:01 AM
still boleh.. asalkan ada kemahuan, Tuhan akan bagi jalan..

pegi la masuk kerja sebagai audit clerk/audit assistant kat mana-mana audit firm.. besar ke kecik ke medium ke, tak kisah.. dapatkan i ...

" Kebanyakan ( Majorit ) mereka yang berjaya dalam dunia korporat di Malaysia berasal daripada profesion akauntann ".

Nama2 Besar :

Dato' Mohamed Azman Yahya
Tan Sri Azman Hashim
Tan Sri Salleh Sulong
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Gemukkkkkkk

terimakasih.  sebagai seorang ca, aku pun rasa bangga.. but let's be factual lah.. they are not successful by being accountants.. they are successful by being businessmen..

tapi tak dinafikan.. kita boleh andaikan yang pendidikan/pengalaman sebagai akauntan banyak membantu mereka.. using accountant's skills when running their businesses..
sebagai akauntan, aku pun bangga..

Gemukkkkkkk

so kalau nak jadi akauntan.. buatlah macam aku suggest.. ambil practical experience sambil take up acca.. tak susah.. kalau lulus partially, dah equivalent dengan sijil, diploma atau degree.. ikut tahap papers mana yang kau dah lulus lah..

tak yah le nak ambik yang lelain tu..buat penat je..

kalau dapat full acca.. bagus le.. dah tahap professional pun.. dan disebabkan memang kerja dengan audit firm, tak yah la risau nak kumpul berapa tahun pengalaman bekerja.. sebab dah memang ada..

lepas tu, kalau malas, ambik master... kat malaysia ni, sapa nak jadi lecturer je amik master program.. sebab pihak swasta tak pandang master ni.. too academic/theoretical..

aku ada offer keje from pwc n kpmg..mana best antara 2 ni?gemukkk suggest apa?

fairy_hobbit

Originally posted by Capt_ICAEW at 4-4-2006 02:35 PM
aku ada offer keje from pwc n kpmg..mana best antara 2 ni?gemukkk suggest apa?

congrats! they all ada offer under specific department/team ker?

Gemukkkkkkk

tahniah!
dua-dua pun bagus..
kalau kat malaysia ni.. advantage pwc ialah research team diorang handal.. kalau ada ruling.. laju je diorang come up with reading materials/analysis untuk staff diorang..
so in terms of knowledge,diorang ni memang kaw-kaw le..

kalau aku.. aku suka pwc.. tapi kpmg is fast catching up with pwc lah..

Originally posted by fairy_hobbit at 4-4-2006 02:41 PM

congrats! they all ada offer under specific department/team ker?

tu belum decide lagi..most likely under financial services department kot..audit banks...tgh pening nk choose mana..nak buat ICAEW..2-2 boleh..so xmembantu decision making..exam dh dekat..dptkn 2.1 dulu..hahah

Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 4-4-2006 02:52 PM
tahniah!
dua-dua pun bagus..
kalau kat malaysia ni.. advantage pwc ialah research team diorang handal.. kalau ada ruling.. laju je diorang come up with reading materials/analysis untuk staff dio ...

ko penah keje ngn any one of them?

baru dpt ey tadi..aku kene pilih salah satu ni by end of april..basically semua sama..gaji apa mende semua...mende di sebalik tabir yg penting...sapa2 boleh cerita?

Gemukkkkkkk

ey pulak.. srong point dia ialah lepas absorb aa.. dulu aa je yang boleh challenge pwc secara direct.. kpmg pun tak sekuat tu.. so, ey pun hebat jugak disebabkan staff force dari aa tu ada kat dia sekarang..

aku tak pernah kerja dengan diorang.. biasa la.. kulit masih jadi isu.. dan diorang lebih suka perempuan, kalau kulit macam aku ni..

kerja banks.. hmm.. terus-terang lah ye.. sebab aku pun pernah buat IA kat bank.. dari internal perspective, tak challenging la unless kita dah in a senior position..
dari external perspective.. maksudnya macam your offered post ni.. lagi boring.. compliance-based.. silap-silap cuma tick boxes dalam checklist aje..

--  tapi i digress, UK dan Malaysia punya environment may be different --

DanIno

Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 4-4-2006 02:13 PM
terimakasih.  sebagai seorang ca, aku pun rasa bangga.. but let's be factual lah.. they are not successful by being accountants.. they are successful by being businessmen..

tapi tak dinafikan..  ...

Memang la, mereka dulunya bekerja sebagai akauntan, lepas tu bukak bisnes atau syarikat sendiri.............hebat diorang ni....

Clinique

aku dah 5 tahun buat full set of accounts. Sekarang rasa boring teramat. But at the same tyme nak gak explore a lots of thing yg ada dlm acct field tu sindrik.

Aku rasa dah sampai masa untuk aku tukar focus aku sekrg..i mean asik2 buat full set je..sampai dah boring. Tapi aku cuma tak tahu apa kerja yg aku nak mintak yg tak perlu buat acct tapi still use the same skills & knowledge of accounts.

Any cadangan kekawan???

dolly

hai semua, dolly ada satu question.

firstly i am a fresh au grad in acc. I got an offer from a big4 plus an offer from a bank but as a trading executive. now m pursuing a cpa programme. wat i wan 2 kno is the job scope. does a trading exec do any accounting? its impt 4 me2o know before accepting the job. the job looks very challenging n interesting..... both jobs starts in April May.

Originally posted by Clinique at 7-4-2006 05:22 PM
aku dah 5 tahun buat full set of accounts. Sekarang rasa boring teramat. But at the same tyme nak gak explore a lots of thing yg ada dlm acct field tu sindrik.

Aku rasa dah sampai masa untuk ak ...

ko masuk consulting..ok sket..xpon masuk corporate finance..lagi mencabar la keje ko

Originally posted by dolly at 7-4-2006 11:58 PM
hai semua, dolly ada satu question.

firstly i am a fresh au grad in acc. I got an offer from a big4 plus an offer from a bank but as a trading executive. now m pursuing a cpa programme. wat i wa ...

it a waste la..u do cpa but starts your career in banking..go for big 4 1st...jumpa to bank few later..they'll pay you more because of the experience in professional services..

Gemukkkkkkk

clinique,

let me give you some input..

if you join an audit firm, what Capt says is true.. experience, knowledge and more pay when you come out..
finish the au cpa programme first.. as an au grad, you know that the degree itself doesnt carry weight.. that's why every au grad must take au cpa.. dont worry, au cpa is an objective-type exam.. sure to pass, one..
even in malaysia, if you dont do your cpa, you will not be able to join mia easily..

now, for the other option.. the reason i do this is because you were offered a position in trading.. so, i need to know more.. is is a position in treasury? doing trading in money market?

[ Last edited by  Gemukkkkkkk at 8-4-2006 10:19 AM ]