[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

Png_Prince

Originally posted by Debmey at 3-7-2007 03:36 PM
you mean you don't know? then how can you expect others to know?

what i do know is that aisha was 9 when mohd had sex with her. that made him a paedophile.


`A磇sha Bint Abu Bakr was Pro ...

Acting dumb ? But u r real dumb
Tell me what u know about aisya's age at the time of bethrothal to Jubair.

Debmey

I don't know, and neither do you fuzzy.
if you have proof that aisha wasn't 9 years old when mohd had sex with her, prove it here.

Png_Prince

Originally posted by Debmey at 3-7-2007 03:44 PM
I don't know, and neither do you fuzzy.
if you have proof that aisha wasn't 9 years old when mohd had sex with her, prove it here.

Can u prove im Fuzzman first ?
U look so stupid here.

So now u admit u dont know aisya's age when betrothal to Jubair ?

Debmey

You are fuzzy, and you are and look stupid.

can you show us what was aisha's age when mohd had sex with her. You mean you can't? I can, here it is


`A磇sha Bint Abu Bakr was Prophet Muhammad's third wife. `A磇sha herself narrated, "The Messenger of God married me in Shawwal in the tenth year after of his prophet hood, three years before the Migration as I was six years old. I was nine years old when he consummated the marriage with me.

Oreng

Dumbmey quote a hadith which mention no sex yet he say there was sex. Hmm. his head is full of s..e..x

Debmey

oreng is so dumb he don't know that consumation of marriage can only mean sex.
I think thats because he is a allah worshipper.

cheers

Fuzzman

This paragraph was taken off Answering Islam. If Debmey is righteous please confirm that the timeline chronology is correct and void of errors.

Already, when Aisha was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union with her[a]. When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her hand. Abu Bakr thought it was improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed aside Abu Bakr's reservation by saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha. So, Aisha was bethroted to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9, the marriage was consumed.[c] And Muhammad was 53 then. The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at that time Aisha had contracted some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Aisha was then socially and psychologically still a child as is evidenced by the fact that she was still given to her toys, she was unaware of what was happening around her, and her playmates behave as would the children at present times[d]. Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was predominant[e]. Later, Aisha was to be called the "mother of believers"
If you are wondering, yes, the relationship was pedophilic.

SVENHOLM

OK Debmey you have read the above and I'm sure you readily agree with Answering islam aight? So now openly confirm the above timeline as correct and faultless! I want you to reply to this confirmation.

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Yes, i agree that Mohd was a paedophile that had fancied Aisha when she was only 4 or 5 and had sex with her when she was only 9 years old.
Thats is absolutely correct Fuzzy.

Oreng

Originally posted by Debmey at 3-7-2007 10:07 PM
oreng is so dumb he don't know that consumation of marriage can only mean sex.
I think thats because he is a allah worshipper.

cheers

at last you admit that consummation of marriage can happen without sex.

Debmey

Did i? Nope. consumation of marriage can only mean sex.

Oreng

Your brain is so acute.

Debmey

you are right, you can never outflank or distract my argument. None of you could.

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 4-7-2007 04:57 AM
Yes, i agree that Mohd was a paedophile that had fancied Aisha when she was only 4 or 5 and had sex with her when she was only 9 years old. Thats is absolutely correct Fuzzy.

This was what started in the Answering Islam article : "Already, when Aisha was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union with her."
There's something very erronous about this first sentence above. Three issues at play here.

Number One.
How can Prophet Mohammad be "dreaming of a union" with Aishah when it was Kaulah, the Ansar match-maker whom brought up the issue of Aishah who was of BIKR standing? Now why would Kaulah be repeating something and Prophet Mohammad asking her of a BIKR lady named Aishah if Prophet Mohammad had already spoken to Abu Bakr about his "fancy" for Aishah?
Number Two.
Aishah was engaged to a Jubair ibni Mut'im at the time of the so-called fancy. So what was Aishah's age when she was engaged to Jubair? Moreover there is no record or evidence showing Prophet Mohammad's craving for women who are already engaged to be married.
Number Three.
At least we now know that you accept the fact that the "act of fancy" for Aishah and the consummation of the "act of fancy" did not occur together in one time period. Please take note of this one everybody.You agree that Prophet Mohammad had fancied Aishah when she was only 4 or 5. Good enough. Since I take it that you're an expert on the life of Aishah, can you please tell me as to what occurred in the historical timeline of Aishah's life. We can start with the run into Habshah from persecution. At what part of Aishah's life did that happen? How long was Aishah there and after how long did she return to Mecca?

ARI FUZZMAN

[ Last edited by  Fuzzman at 5-7-2007 02:27 AM ]

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 4-7-2007 10:26 AM
you are right, you can never outflank or distract my argument. None of you could.

Jubair ibni Mut'im is like a Giza pyramid right in your face and you say you're never outflanked or distracted? Who you're trying to get punked here? Talk about Jubair and I might just believe you. Otherwise I'd vote you for Bad Off-Taste Joker Of The Year Award! LOL

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 4-7-2007 09:39 AM
Did i? Nope. consumation of marriage can only mean sex.

You sure about it meant to be SEX only Debmey? Looks like I got you outflanked and hit hard on the broadside again punkaroo!! Read on and weep at your ignorance dear boy!!

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source con穝um穖ate       (kŏn'sə-māt')  Pronunciation Key  
tr.v.   con穝um穖at積d, con穝um穖at穒ng, con穝um穖ates

To bring to completion or fruition; conclude: consummate a business transaction.
To realize or achieve; fulfill: a dream that was finally consummated with the publication of her first book.
To complete (a marriage) with the first act of sexual intercourse after the ceremony.
To fulfill (a sexual desire or attraction) especially by intercourse.

To complete (a marriage) with the first act of sexual intercourse after the ceremony.
To fulfill (a sexual desire or attraction) especially by intercourse.

So by Debmey's standards of Behavioral Patterns, a author can have SEX with his/her published book! LOL

ARI FUZZMAN

[ Last edited by  Fuzzman at 5-7-2007 02:22 AM ]

Debmey

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 5-7-2007 02:08 AM

Number One.
How can Prophet Mohammad be "dreaming of a union" with Aishah when it was Kaulah, the Ansar match-maker whom brought up the issue of Aishah who was of BIKR standing? Now why would Kaulah be repeating something and Prophet Mohammad asking her of a BIKR lady named Aishah if Prophet Mohammad had already spoken to Abu Bakr about his "fancy" for Aishah?

How could mohd agree to a union if he had not dreamed of it in the first place?

Number Two.
Aishah was engaged to a Jubair ibni Mut'im at the time of the so-called fancy. So what was Aishah's age when she was engaged to Jubair? Moreover there is no record or evidence showing Prophet Mohammad's craving for women who are already engaged to be married.

So what was her age? Can you show us?
Was Jubair in any way involved when mohd had  sex with aisha when she was only 9 years old as recorded many times over in the hadiths?

Number Three.
At least we now know that you accept the fact that the "act of fancy" for Aishah and the consummation of the "act of fancy" did not occur together in one time period. Please take note of this one everybody.You agree that Prophet Mohammad had fancied Aishah when she was only 4 or 5. Good enough. Since I take it that you're an expert on the life of Aishah, can you please tell me as to what occurred in the historical timeline of Aishah's life. We can start with the run into Habshah from persecution. At what part of Aishah's life did that happen? How long was Aishah there and after how long did she return to Mecca?

`A磇sha Bint Abu Bakr was Prophet Muhammad's third wife. `A磇sha herself narrated, "The Messenger of God married me in Shawwal in the tenth year after of his prophet hood, three years before the Migration as I was six years old. I was nine years old when he consummated the marriage with me.

The hadiths are clear. Mohd married aisha when she was only 6 years old and had sex with her when she was only 9.

Oreng

Prophet consummated the marriage when Aisha was 9. Consummated marriage does not mean having sex. Sex is private matter. No marriage couple would expose their sex life, except christians. Prophet Muhammad SAW and Aisha RA are not christians. Aisha got married at 6 but not yet live together with the Prophet. Only when she was 9 they live together. A complete consummated marriage is when husband and wife stays together. Having sex or not is not our concern. If people like debmey are very interested, it is because they are obsessed with sex.

Debmey

Consumation of marriage can only mean sex. The problem with you is your English ability.

Oreng

Very acute definition of marriage.

Oreng

see dictionary for the definition :

CONSUMMATION OF MARRIAGE. The first time that the husband and wife cohabit  together, after the ceremony of marriage has been performed, is thus called.

Source : http://onlinedictionary.datasegm ... ummation+of+marriag