PEGAWAI TADBIR DIPLOMATIK (PTD) -

By the way, here are two PowerPoint files which will presumably be presented at the end of the PAC session.

Latar Belakang dan Peranan PTD (MS PowerPoint)

Pelaksanaan Pelan Latihan Perkhidmatan PTD (MS PowerPoint)

It is my understanding that the information in these slides will be very important should the candidates proceed to the interview stage. Before anyone starts yelling OSA, I would like to say that these files are also available in other PTD-related sites, and they appear to have been provided by Unit Diploma Perkhidmatan Awam INTAN.

Hope this helps.

[ Last edited by  verytas at 3-8-2006 03:24 PM ]

rudyk

Originally posted by verytas at 3-8-2006 10:00 PM


agree with you that we should try our very best, as we all know the process to get this post is very, very competitive.

on the other hand i beg to differ with your opinion on sizing up the c ...

it depends on the person really... some of us may have the same thought as you are... but some just don't care about their "competitors"... or feels that by knowing more, it makes them more nervous on facing tough competition (on paper that is... some may not live up to their billings...of course)...

as for me...i don't care about them... i personally feels that i can give my best this way... and knowing that i have done my best... although it may not be enough to pose a challenge on them... will make me feel good...

but a little research won't harm anyone...right?

we have someone from jpm... consul's daugther and fresh grads  in our session...

175 peoples... 175 faces...  it just too much to do some research on...

cikanova

Originally posted by wp55 at 2-8-2006 11:48 AM
selain PS dorg kena wat aper lagi.....??bkn apa coz masa i xm ada lawyer yg abik xm PTD
nie.takut gak nanti d kelilingi org? profesional nie

Kena buat bodoh jer...

hehehe..tak der lah..just ikut arahan dari semasa ke semasa.....jangan takut...relaks..be yourself..jgn over confident..kekadang panel tak suka....sbb PTD byk berhubung dengan org ramai sekeliling..dari yg tua shingga yg muda..dari yg celik huruf hingga yg terlebih pandai...dari org bandar hingga luar bandar..so, kalau kita gaya berlagak...mcm mana nak kerja dgn org ramai...PTD bukan kerja duduk dalam bilik berhawa dingin, berkerusi empuk sahaja..its more than that...apa pun bila ke PAC,...boleh dapat ramai kenalan baru....

here's another thought. the most frequent advice given to PAC candidates is, I believe, to "be yourself", followed by "be a team player" and "don't hog the limelight".

i think it has been previously mentioned in this thread that during the interview session, the interview panel may give an early indication of where JPA will place the successful candidates.

now, let's take this excerpt from an interview with Datuk Dr Shafie Salleh, in Mingguan Malaysia (Feb 2005)

Secara keseluruhan, bagaimana prestasi pelajar kita ketika ini?

SHAFIE: Pelajar-pelajar kita kebanyakannya hanya mengejar `sehelai kertas' (ijazah). Mereka lupa `sehelai kertas' itu tidak boleh laku di mana-mana kalau dia tidak melihat diri sendiri atau membina keterampilan diri. Budak-budak kita keterampilan diri mereka kurang. Kenapa? Kerana tiada keterampilan diri. Saya rasa banyak pensyarah akan mengeluh tetapi realitinya di universiti tiada personal grooming (membina keterampilan diri).

Jadi apa yang hendak saya terapkan ialah apabila pelajar masuk kampus dan melaporkan diri kepada pensyarah, di situ kita kena lakukan bermacam-macam. Pengalaman semasa menjadi pensyarah di Intan, saya diberi seramai 114 pelajar untuk diserapkan sebagai pegawai tadbir dan diplomatik (PTD). Mereka ini akan menjadi duta dan sebagainya. Masuk sahaja ke Intan, kita tengok, ada yang pakai stoking merah, ada pakai baju pun tidak betul, tali leher ikat tidak kemas dan sebagainya. Dari situ kita akan membawa mereka sampai ke tahap yang kita benar-benar kehendaki.

Di sinilah saya buat macam-macam pengubahan (diversion) sebelum mereka keluar. Umpamanya kita adakan kaunseling individu, berkumpulan dan sebagainya. Apabila kita buat begitu, dia tahu tentang personaliti dirinya yang sebenar.

Mungkin jiwa dia pendiam dan dia memang seorang yang pendiam. Dari segi psikologi ini dikatakan introvert. Dan orang yang suka bercakap, berkawan, bersosial - kita panggil ekstrovert. Kita buat ujian psikologi yang hasilnya dia tahu dirinya introvert atau ekstrovert dan sebagainya.

Jadi kalau seseorang itu jadi PTD apabila keluar dan dia introvert, kita boleh letak dia di tempat yang rahsia - rahsia besar, rahsia kerajaan dan sebagainya kerana dia hanya bercakap dengan komputernya sahaja.

Kalau yang ekstrovert, letakkan dia di Wisma Putra, kerana dia suka bercakap; boleh berjumpa dengan orang tanpa rasa kekok. Bagi yang makan dengan tiga jari seperti tahun 80-an dulu, letakkan dia di pejabat agama atau pejabat daerah. Awal Muharam kalau ustaz lambat datang, dia boleh naik pentas dan berucap dulu.

Datuk mahu agar setiap produk yang dihasilkan itu perlu disesuaikan dengan personaliti diri seseorang itu sendiri?

SHAFIE: Maknanya selepas semua intervention (campur tangan) ini, apabila dia (pelajar) keluar universiti nanti, saya hendak agar kerja yang dia buat, dianggap sebagai hobi. Barulah produktiviti meningkat. Kalau misalnya orang yang makan tiga jari tadi dan dia introvert, diletakkan di Wisma Putra, mati dia - mati beragan (ketawa).

Terap budaya INTAN di IPT Membina ketrampilan diri pelajar sebaik sahaja masuk kampus - Mingguan Malaysia, 13 Februari 2005

What do you guys think then, will our behaviour during PAC affect our chances to get the post that suits our personality? Or will it depend on how we behave during DPA in INTAN, after 'intervention'? assuming we get through this PAC and the subsequent interviews, of course.

ecam

i cant remember exactly since i left the forms back home..
as far as i can remember, u need to
1. state languange(s) u have mastered - up to three, but of cos u can add if u want
2. musical instrument
3. career objective

other than these... its just normal info about urself

voizze

Originally posted by cikanova at 4-8-2006 12:26 AM



Kena buat bodoh jer...

hehehe..tak der lah..just ikut arahan dari semasa ke semasa.....jangan takut...relaks..be yourself..jgn over confident..kekadang panel tak suka....sbb PTD byk  ...

:setuju:

:setuju:

:setuju:

ecam

i think that's why they conduct this assessment.. interview is just too short.. even if it takes
more than 1 hour... in three days usually we will show our true "colours".. so to speak

ecam

that's why it's very important to "be yourself".. so that they'll be able to assess you better and get the best from you.. that;s what leadership is all about... using right resources at the right place and the right time

The best is still " be yourself " You might be surrounded by the proffesionals, lawyers, doctors etc.Although you are not as proffesionals as they are, there's might be some value in you which suitable to becoming as PTD.Good luck ya!

ecam

biola? violin?

gita kapok rege 150 buleh ler.. tupon utk hiburan sendiri dan seisi kuarga jerrr

stupify

Originally posted by verytas at 3-8-2006 10:00 PM


agree with you that we should try our very best, as we all know the process to get this post is very, very competitive.

on the other hand i beg to differ with your opinion on sizing up the c ...

agree with ur point that research could play a vital role in grabbing the opportunity to be a PTD.

however,i am quite surprise that u know that I am a fan of Man Utd,i'm from MMU but u are wrong that I did my FYP on hotel reservation system, I did a virtual tour of PC that consists of php,sql,lingo,3d max,some complex scripting,it's more towards multimedia.So u can basically say I am a multimedia minded person.

How did u  managed to know my personal information?I'm quite impressed.:tq:

IDMJ

iyola verytas...mana la hang dapat suma2 info ni...meh arr share sket..sonok gak baca profile org... =)

ecam

ada dua strategi yg buleh diguna

1. I/O
2. Resource based

ecam

I/O model

basically your strategy will be formulated based on external factors

ecam

resource based

focus is on internal strength n weaknesses

Originally posted by rudyk at 3-8-2006 03:55 PM
175 peoples... 175 faces...  it just too much to do some research on...

don't worry, you don't need to know all of them...i'm at 30% of my session and that's OK with me.

Originally posted by ecam at 4-8-2006 12:09 AM
i cant remember exactly since i left the forms back home..
as far as i can remember, u need to
1. state languange(s) u have mastered - up to three, but of cos u can add if u want
2. musical inst ...

thank you sir!

Originally posted by ecam at 4-8-2006 02:38 AM
that's why it's very important to "be yourself".. so that they'll be able to assess you better and get the best from you.. that;s what leadership is all about... using right resources at  ...

Originally posted by shikin_12 at 4-8-2006 03:20 AM
The best is still " be yourself " You might be surrounded by the proffesionals, lawyers, doctors etc.Although you are not as proffesionals as they are, there's might be some value in you  ...

i guess everyone is OK with "being yourself", what i meant to say was how much does our "true colours" influence placement in the service, with regards to the Mingguan Malaysia article. Or is it a matter or further assessment during DPA? Also bear in mind that previous sessions have done personality tests (Myers-Briggs) during their PTD Unggul.

Originally posted by stupify at 4-8-2006 04:37 AM
agree with ur point that research could play a vital role in grabbing the opportunity to be a PTD.

however,i am quite surprise that u know that I am a fan of Man Utd,i'm from MMU but u are w ...

your CV @ freewebs -> lowyat.net & fotopages . sorry, guess the Hotel System data structure was only an assigmnent then? even thought of ringing that mobile no. on your CV, that would have been freaky huh? ;)

stupify

Originally posted by verytas at 4-8-2006 04:31 PM


don't worry, you don't need to know all of them...i'm at 30% of my session and that's OK with me.




thank you sir!





i guess everyone is OK with "being yourself", what ...

i guess it's all about googling:nerd:

anyway freewebs is my old site,i never use it anymore since i have my own hosting

[ Last edited by  stupify at 4-8-2006 04:55 PM ]

melati2862

hi all..
congratulations n good luck for those yang akan pegi PAC, don't stress urself thinking about other candidate...just get prepared, u already have a picture what's PAC is all about kan, apa aktiviti yang akan ditempuhi dah pun diceritakan oleh some forumer...so buatlah persediaan yang sepatutnya...cuma anda perlu faham bahawa pemilihan adalah bergantung pada facilitator yang menilai anda semasa PAC dijalankan, so buatlah yang terbaik....

Sometimes bila dah tau semua perkara yang perlu ditempuhi akan menyebabkan kita lebih stress dan takut untuk menghadapi apa yang bakal berlaku...

My experience, pegi PAC without any clue what am i going to face over there...ikut je la jadual yg diberi, participate dalam apa jua perbincangan n aktiviti kumpulan, prepare public speaking a night before presentation, n maybe a big help from my group at that time...thx guys, u all memang best sbb we all bekerjasama dalam semua aktiviti...end up, 8 from 10 of us get through for interview...and 6 get the post...alhamdulillah...

Jadi kenalilah rakan-rakan satu group n sama- sama lah berusaha untuk berjaya...tolong menolong memang banyak kebaikannya...

Just my 2 cent

bitaraX

Originally posted by melati2862 at 4-8-2006 05:33 PM
hi all..
congratulations n good luck for those yang akan pegi PAC, don't stress urself thinking about other candidate...just get prepared, u already have a picture what's PAC is all about kan, apa ...

ya...that's true...

rudyk

Dari blog seorang ptd... a view from the facilitator eyes...for full entry... go here... http://look_again.blogspot.com/2 ... e-known-during.html


Things I wish some good candidates have known during the PAC, such as:

* Volunteering is good. Dominating is not. If one of your peers volunteer to take over any task after you have done so