Graduates U Tak Fasih B Inggeris dan Faktor2nya

rose_liz

teachers kat sekolah menengah dulu ajar b.i kat kitorg guna kaedah lagu mcm ni arr..mula2 dgr dulu lagu. pastu teacher bg lyrics to each students, then nyanyi ramai2..tapi lyrics tu ade blanks yg perlu diisi...jd kitorg akan dgr lagu tu betul2 supaya dpt the correct words/sentences...antara lagu2 yg terpilih adalah spt HERO by mariah carey, Everything I do, I do it for you by Bryan Adams, lagu sountrack film POCAHONTAS tu..ehe..best..we all enjoy sgt2..

mba

english you need to practice it everyday..means to say that you need to communicate among yourself ( student ). I think all the referecences nowadays all in english. So think it wisely....dont be shy if you want to tlk in englishh


FIKIR FIKIRKANLAHHH

eva

thanks for your tips dexa.
I nak apply kat agency you bleh tak?

bila i dpt keja kat sini, my English was really poor. I was asked by one of the interviewers ' are you nervous? '. Heck, yeah he tried to grill me with some weird questions  sbb keja nie melibatkan kita bekerja dgn children. I said yeap I was nervous   I taknak pretend to be confident sbb memang I taknak dorang ingat I nie liar.

Keluar dr bilik tu I nangis giler sbb being too honest dgn dorang. TAPI the next day I dpt surat yg I kena terima kerja.   my luck agaknya. Out of 20 people yg kena interview, they just took 3. And I was the only woman dlm post tu!

Nara_Gaara

Originally posted by juju_amin84 at 4-3-2007 02:47 PM
aku ex UKM...masa ak undergraduate dulu memg wat thesis dalam BM...n setau ak MSc dh kena start wat English...ni yg ak tgk senior2 buatler...tu masa thn ak...xtaul le thn ni how..huhu...

yg aku tau senate takkan bagi student local postgrad buat thesis dlm bi. unless ada reason yg amat kukuh. ni semester lepas punya la. x taula sem ni dah boleh tulis in english. lecturers pun ramai yg mengeluh kna speaking time mengajor.

eva

kasihan..
teruk sangat ke sistem hingga suruh semua ngajar in English?

Nara_Gaara

sebab ada student arab dlm kelas...

eva

Originally posted by Nara_Gaara at 25-6-2007 08:58 PM
sebab ada student arab dlm kelas...

ic... takpela.
kalau uni kat malaysia nak maju dan nak setanding dgn uni luar negara, they should employ lecturers yg boleh deliver subjects both in English and malay. Kalau dorang berbahasa lain pon takpe as long as bahasa tu boleh difahami oleh students lain.

pwincess83

sumtimes bukan kita x bleh nk ckp tapi bila bab interview nih...
kita akan jadi gabra abis ilang kata2....hehe
so, in order nk improve english kena la.. overcome gabra kita tuh dulu..
sekian terima kasih... hehe

chipmunk

msian student nie sebenarnya taklah teruk sesangat english nyer, kita bertuah sebab kita di kalangan negara komanwel and english dah jadi 2nd language di msia. cuma yang penting kene selalu amalkan speaking english and polish as much as we can..

jangan terkejut kalo i penah baca dalam satu seminar english even prince charles and tony blair also made mistake in english especially grammar error..so yg penting speak and learn, that's it

eva

i admire some african countries like zimbawe and nigeria..
i used to go to community centre where i could find people from other countries. Indians n Pakistani mostly memang English very good sbb english is their first language at school. Tapi people fromZimbawe ( sorry la kalau spelling salah ) and Nigeria use Queen's English in their conversation. Indeed English is their first language. Dorang bercakap as if they were born here in UK! memang bahasa dia, 100% ikut style Brits

[ Last edited by  eva at 2-8-2007 10:08 AM ]

lady_nF

Originally posted by chipmunk at 1-8-2007 11:48 PM
msian student nie sebenarnya taklah teruk sesangat english nyer, kita bertuah sebab kita di kalangan negara komanwel and english dah jadi 2nd language di msia. cuma yang penting kene selalu amalk ...

betul2
kalau nak ikut grammar memang orang putih sendiri byk tak betul
tapi itulaaa kita nih suka sangat menggelakkan orang kalau salah grammar
sampai orang lain self concious
tuh yg tanak speaking tuh

satu lagi pronounciation
kalau tgk orang negara lain...they dont care about the right pronounciation
so dont be afraid kalau BI kita bunyi cam melayu
takyah nak slang pelbagai

chipmunk

kekadang i pun mcm bengang biler 'org2 veteran' yang terdidik dalam english e.g blajar di UK thn 60an 70an nie ngomel pasal kelemahan graduan kiter berbahasa inggeris, sometimes i think is it terrible as we can't even speak that language????

macam ada lect i sebab dah takder point nak kutuk presentation i he just merely said your english was so poor..i know maybe he want to correct me but the way he sound it seems like i don't know how to speak english..come on la...eii geram sampai sekarang huhu...

chipmunk

Originally posted by lady_nF at 2-8-2007 12:17 PM


betul2
kalau nak ikut grammar memang orang putih sendiri byk tak betul
tapi itulaaa kita nih suka sangat menggelakkan orang kalau salah grammar
sampai orang lain self concious
tuh yg tana ...

cuba tengok masa persidangan PBB..masa i tengok diplomat2 nie bercakap english mereka bunyi pun pelbagai, even s/u agung pbb ban ki moon pun cakap english dalam slang korea nyer diplomat latin cakap dengan bunyi pelat latinnya, so it shown the variety of english itself.
kiter nie jer nak jadi terlebih mat salleh kan hehe...terlalu obses dengan english..doesn't mean that i'm anti english tapi belajar seadanya dan sebaik mungkin..belajar itu kunci utama nak mantapkan penguasaan english bukan sampai totally nak tukar idup mcm mat salleh pulak...just my 2 cent

sicekgumath

for actually all the vocab we already hv, 4 example if we want to speak sumthing, we try to speak to urself vey and we have all the word, but when we want to tell or talk to sum1 else, u'll feel like u lost the word..how come dat kind of situation happen?

zenita

kalau my case, i remember time kecik2 dulu, tak minat la baca english book except for the ones in colors. plak tu sek. keb & byk bercampur ngan budak2 melayu (sini dah prob cos bile campur kwn2 cina & india, we tend to learn other cultures & speak english). dulu, i pi library every saturday & kat library bole pinjam dua buku & my dad paksa us to pinjam one english no matter what. so i did & my dad yg tolong bacakan buku tu kat kitorg sampai kitorg tido

actually my point is if kite tak kene exposed to english since little, we need to buy english books & start reading them. i like english songs a lot.. and i made the lyrics as my daily vocabulary & sticked it on the mirror so that i can see & remember them. my younger sis punya case plak, since my dad beli english newspaper & dia nak sgt baca mona fendy punye case dulu, dia baca paper pakai dictionary but now the english is good.

my younger bros plak sbb kitorg pindah kat neighbourhood area yang majmuk and diaorg baik ngan sorang bdk chinese & sorang indian and always together.. its nice to see the friendship... bile chinese new year, kitorg dpt hamper & bile christmas, kitorg tukar2 hadiah & bila raya pun, kitorg dpt hamper. and this is one of the reasons i love malaysia. -- ni dah lari topic nih!

Hi everyone, im new here.hehhe.actually i also have a problem in this language.uwaaaaaaaaa....teruknyer rase bila takleh ckp n tulis dgn baik dlm english.rase diri ni kerdil sgt2.pnah pegi interview n kena sindir dgn interviewer"candidate yg dtg dr rural area punye english better than me yg duduk kl". tak tau la kat mana silapnye.skrg ni ari2 beli newspaper in english.but still hampeh.bile time nak gi interview,the first thing yg buat i terpk ialah kena converse in english.kdg2 rase mcm kenapa la susah sgt sy ni nak pandai in english.tlg la saya......kdg2 sy rase down n demotivated dah nak belaja english ni.

dexa

dear mieyoi -
thanks for your post -

it would be great as well if mieyoi started reading
english mags -  i recommend Reader's Digest
cuz of its simple english and contains lots of interesting articles  -

and start to converse in English with your friends or
family -  do not worry about the grammar or any mistakes -
we learn through mistakes and guest what -- you will only get
better -

all the best -

[ Last edited by  dexa at 14-8-2007 10:59 PM ]

krisz_gurlz

me pon.....

eva

Originally posted by lady_nF at 2-8-2007 12:17 PM


betul2
kalau nak ikut grammar memang orang putih sendiri byk tak betul
tapi itulaaa kita nih suka sangat menggelakkan orang kalau salah grammar
sampai orang lain self concious
tuh yg tana ...

betul tu mat salleh sendiri bahasa dia lintang pukang..tapi kena ingat dia tak rasa salah sbb tu dia rasa bahasa dia.

slang melayu atau tak yg penting confident. kalau kena betulkan takpe... jgn rasa malu kata thank you and later u bleh improve yourself.

my experience sendiri eiks i nie jenis english tapi wonder slang or twang mana. i dun talk mcm org2 kat semenanjung sbb sabahans n sarawakians have their own unique way ckp english. more to local slang so when i first came here org ingat i chinese tapi heran sbb sebutan tu clear sikit.

i was too shy to talk as if there were marbles in my mouth. ckp english takut salah etc, tapi everyday tengok tv in english, jumpa pula org scottish atau pakistani yg menetap kat sini my english campur2. ngan malaysian of coz la i ckp melayu dan kurang ckp english. right after i kerja, bila almost everyday jumpa scottish.. my twang dah ke glaswegian sampai la sekarang twang tu. i nak cuba ckp posh, bunyi tak natural la pulak. nak cuba ckp ala melayu, mat salleh tak paham . nak ikut slang pakistani atau chinese nanti dikata asylum seeker. i dont know what i should do.

last2 i stick to the way i ckp english. more to glaswegian tapi a bit mcm posh. kalau jumpa jenis2 tak posh i kena kurangkan level utk sama tinggi dgn non posh glaswegian  yg penting i kena adjust so i tak kena call as stuck up person

Thanks dexa. i will try to improve my english eventhough i know it will takes time.today, i borrow my firend's readers digest and try to read all the articles in it.hopefully i can improve my english language and be brave in using it in my daily life.