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well night lord, the word still not change.
It will remain the same meaning, same pronoun. |
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Well lollipop, we WERE discussing the perfectness of the Quran as it is the word from God and cannot have contained any errors.
Here I am to prove that wrong. But I do not make the Quran any less than it is. A book about God.
It is just muslims are so caught up with unimportant details they loose sight of the forest for the trees.
And they use such mundane reasons to prove the uniqueness of the Quran that it is beyond belief.
If you wish to show uniquness in your book, highlight the great philosophies and truth within, not repeat nonsensical reasons parroted seemingly by all muslims on this board.
I have yet to hear some intelligent muslim chatter with the exception of Greeky and angel. |
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Well lollipop I am not impressed with that site because there are many other issues involving man made errors in the quran.
Muslims have to at least admit that the transfer of words from man to another man will cause mistakes to appear, transposing errors can happen, human intervention(editing) can happen over a long time.
But you are right about one thing, the truth contain within will seldom change.
That is how I also believe in the words that Jesus spoke about. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 30-1-2005 05:11 AM:
There are many defects in the Quran.
I have never come across anyone who can explain away contradictions in the Quran text.
peace
so u r hiding here eh deb..
give us one defect of the quran!! ONE will do  |
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Originally posted by nightlord at 31-1-2005 04:17 AM:
Looks like you dont know your jawi. Too bad
hahahaha..bodoh nya..JAWI??hahahaha!! |
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Originally posted by nightlord at 30-1-2005 03:02 AM:
Well Angel you still dont get it do you.
The first Caliph edited the Quran throught censorship.
If again you dont understand this go ask someone who speaks better english to translate for you.
hahaha...dont talk cock la wei..give prove..dont simply talk..the first caliph..since u regard yourself smart..give the proof..btw, do u even KNOW who was the first caliph?hahaha..start yer googlin.......NOW!! |
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Peace nightlord
Originally posted by nightlord at 31-1-2005 10:58 PM:
Well lollipop, we WERE discussing the perfectness of the Quran as it is the word from God and cannot have contained any errors.
Here I am to prove that wrong. But I do not make the Quran any les ...
Yes, the Quran is perfect.. and cant contain any error...if you want to prove that wrong..please try..be my guest... |
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Originally posted by nightlord at 31-1-2005 11:10 PM:
Well lollipop I am not impressed with that site because there are many other issues involving man made errors in the quran.
Muslims have to at least admit that the transfer of words from man to ...
well nightlord..im not impressed by your site either...rather..im confused.. if you can pin point each word in the table to which verse they refer to, i will counter check whether it the words at the site is from the Quran or not.. Deal?
Peace. |
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Sorry low belly Snake, your heckling will not keep your "perfect Quran" erect as Sonny says.
Well lollipoppy, the site is self explanatory, and if you cant see the differences, then maybe I can recommed you to a good optician. |
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Well lollipoppy, the site is self explanatory, and if you cant see the differences, then maybe I can recommed you to a good optician.
Peace.
No the site does not give the verses that those words belong to..plus broken links everywhere.. you give me the verses then we will talk.. deal?
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Originally posted by nightlord at 3-2-2005 12:41 AM:
Dats funny...Cat bit your tongue? Looks like you dont even know what you paste..
peace. |
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You are the muslim, so you tell me right or wrong. |
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Originally posted by nightlord at 3-2-2005 11:47 PM:
You are the muslim, so you tell me right or wrong.
Ill tell you this..the site doest prove anything..only conjecture!
Peace
[ Last edited by lolipop9 on 4-2-2005 at 01:13 AM ] |
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Conjecture:cak: You dont even know the meaning of the word.
I show you actual Arabic mistakes in the Quran and that is all you can say.
Loser. |
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Originally posted by nightlord at 5-2-2005 12:38 AM:
Conjecture:cak: You dont even know the meaning of the word.
I show you actual Arabic mistakes in the Quran and that is all you can say.
Loser.
Looks like you have to brush up your arabic AND your english my fren. :cak:
Told you..if you can tell me the verse the words belong to then we will talk..ok?
and before you start calling ppl "loser" or anything else..you better show that you have a little knowledge on what you are talking about...not just paste from some site that supports your views.
until you can prove the words belong to the verses in the Quran..i think this discussion is going nowhere..
until then.
Peace. |
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Well since you cant answer, then we will wait for someone else more knowledgeable than you. |
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The Quran is a miracle indeed. Had God not protect the Quran, such a book would surerly be full of errors (on the scientific matters, future predictions and various subjects touched upon in the Quran). The way that the Quran is preserved for more than 1400 years is beyond what we accept as logical, as argued by nightlord. But indeed the quran is preserved well since the time of revelation (as promised by Allah) and the burden of proof of error is still there on the disbelievers even though the quran has been revealed for 1400 years!
How the Quran was preserved
Besides the preservation, the content of the Quran is a miracle. As a muslim who reads the Quran regularly, I never failed to be amaze by the beauty in its language and content.
The Amazing Quran
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we've already discuss how quran has been preserved in previous pages.
But I just want to know if they has any logical xplanation on how Quran has been preserved from 1400 years ago until know?
If they hardly agreed on the way the Quran exist as single mushaf, at least from the first mushaf up to date, we still have the same text in Arabic. Anyone can xplain on how it preserve-logically? |
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Post time 31-1-2005 10:24 PM
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