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MP PKR - Tentera diperlakukan seperti hamba abdi untuk hari berkabung MH17
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apalah perasaan askar kita tu bawa abu kapir lakhanat
orang kapir tak kesah apa abu dia ok
tapi kita ni islam
agak jika samay vellu mampus askar kita
kena hormat camtu agaknya
al maklumlah Melayu nak ambik hati keling
kerana tampa keling agaknya Mesia tak aman
atau takut kena ugut
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peYno posted on 24-8-2014 08:34 AM
ni bukan org tentera pncn... tapi tentera muda berpangkat.... mmg terasa dikerah cam kuli
Berapa org ko jumpa?
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PerKasa posted on 24-8-2014 02:36 PM
apalah perasaan askar kita tu bawa abu kapir lakhanat
orang kapir tak kesah apa abu dia ok
apa masalahnye dgn samy bulu...dia idup lg...bkn mangsa mh17..
askar2 tu pun kalo bole x mau angkat abu kapiaq tu...tp dah diarah so jd nasib le..layan je..
ketua de facto esok kalo mati..mungkin usung satu masia kot...
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ultra78 posted on 23-8-2014 09:23 PM
Org yg sama ke ni?
konsisten tengin.
sekian |
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Syukurlah diorang ni dapat pengiktirafan daripada negara.
Itu belum lagi berjuta2 umat malaysia yg sedekahkan Al fatihah dan beribu2 orang solat jenazah.
kau mampu mati nanti tersidai tengah rumah , kubur belum siap digali , imam sibuk , dan tak ramai yg solat jenazahkan kau ? dah macam citer tanah kubur...
Tahu nak mengutuk. ni mesti mulut puaka geng pakatang gile nak bermaharajalela di selangor. puihhh |
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Hari tu bila Pahlawan kita gugur kat Lahad Datu PKR kata tu hanyalah SANDIWARA...kecik hati angota keselematan & keluarga dorang. |
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Anak_Nogori posted on 24-8-2014 01:12 PM
org bodoh je boleh yg akan pk bila arahan dikeluarkan utk berhentikan kenderaan..bermaksud berhent ...
Kena tengok avatar dia bang... Avatar tu menjelaskan kenapa logik akalnya agak simplistic
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Letih tgk perangai org2 pkr ni....apa saja yg dibuat kerajaan salah jua pada pandangan mereka
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setuju
buat apa perlu diadakan acara mega untuk menyambut ketibaan jenazah. ia adalah hari yang menyedihkan bagi keluarga mangsa. tidak terlihatkah kita melihat keluarga mangsa menangis apabila jenazah dikeluarkan dari kapalterbang. upacara upacara mega seperti ini hanya menambahkan kesayuan kepada keluarga mangsa. |
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Pastu komplen kenapa xbagi tgk jenazah... Kalau korang gi liveleak, cari video yg dorg suluh mayat waktu malam, ada satu lengkap dgn baju stewardess mas lagi, tapi aku rasa famili akan lebih trauma kalau tgk keadaan mayat tu..... |
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wira terkorban di lahad datu dapat pingat kedaulatan negara lagi..special juga |
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Justifikasi yang diberikan - penghormatan sebab consider seperti terkorban di medan perang.
Lagipun ahli keluarga dipanggil untuk diskus pasal ni. Ada satu jenazah yg bawa balik arini takde pun penghormatan sbb keluarga bertegas untuk privacy.
And benda dah declare lama. Kalau nak bersuara, boleh bersuara lebih awal. terutama di Parlimen. |
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dauswq posted on 23-8-2014 08:21 PM
MP ni bekas org tentera, leftenan lagi, pastinya ada justifikasi dia ckp camtu...pride sbg tentera.. ...
Setuju bos, sbb bekas tentera yg mempertikaikan, leftenan(B) lagi 2 jgn main2, sudah tentunya dia ada reason and knowledge ketenteraan |
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Memasing akan cari cara utk tumpang limelight MH17 ni
Harus lah nk tunjuk hero, macam lah tak biase |
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karlee posted on 24-8-2014 01:50 PM
Setuju bos, sbb bekas tentera yg mempertikaikan, leftenan(B) lagi 2 jgn main2, sudah tentunya dia ...
Pembetulan... MP ni pangkat dia semasa di TLDM adalah LAKSAMANA PERTAMA , bukan leftenan.
Laksamana pertama bersamaan dengan Brigadier General dalam TDM dan TUDM. one star general.
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nalis posted on 24-8-2014 03:32 PM
Kena tengok avatar dia bang... Avatar tu menjelaskan kenapa logik akalnya agak simplistic
Kesian...sapa lah cikgu sekolah dia dulu.. |
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Begitu lah nasib anggota tentera.. dah jadi tugas, kena buat la.
Dalam tentera ada tugas tugas semasa perang dan semasa aman, dah memang termaktub, so bila dah cap sepuluh jari masuk anggota tentera, maka kena ikut sahaja arahan yang diberikan, like it or not. Tugas tugas semasa aman termasuklah majlis2 keraian atau majlis MH17 ni, bencana alam seperti banjir, kebakaran besar,tanah runtuh ker..etc etc. termasuklah kerja amal seperti buat rumah, bersihkan kubur, buat jambatan..
dan semasa buat kerja2 ni, tidak ada elaun khas atau bayaran overtime... kiranya free labour la..
MP ni komplen sebab kita over do, sampai kerah tenaga beribu tentera dan harta ATM untuk meratapi kematian adalah tak berbaloi. Full military honour tak perlu, cukup la sekadar beri pertolongan untuk menguruskan dari A to Z pun dah cukup. Itu pun dah dikira penghormatan. |
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walau pun mungkin dia ada sikit point,
tapi given the overall scheme of things,
aku rate tindakan dia agak sengal dan sedikit bongok...
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Letter to the Press:
Dear Sir,
It was the first time in Malaysia that civilians were accorded full military honours.
In any country, “Honouring Those Who Served" is the essence or the only reason when providing dignified military funeral honours to the dead. Military funeral honours are normally accorded to citizens, normally soldiers, who died defending the nation.
In the case of the victims of MAS Flight MH17, shot in Ukraine air space more than a month ago, were they heroes and did they all die defending our country?
It was an unfortunate tragedy that had befallen them and we are all very sad and it is the duty and responsibility of the country to bring the remains of all the victims home and give each of them a decent funeral according to the rituals of their respective religions.
The victims were definitely not heroes and they do not deserve full military honours for their funeral.
If the Defence Ministry had wanted to conduct a funeral with full military honours, they should have done so for the funeral of all the policemen and soldiers who were killed by Sulu rebels in the Lahad Datu incident last year, for example. They all died defending the country.
We saw how The Netherlands handled the matter but they did not do it with full military honours. Yes, we must show respect to the Malaysian victims and try to be better than the Dutch but it is definitely not right to overdo things.
Malaysia could do something similar to what the Dutch have done but definitely not to conduct a show that over do what the Dutch did. Who are we trying to impress?
I know that the military didn’t have the equipment, for example, the 20 ‘Van Jenazah’ for the occasion and they conducted a rush and ‘hush - hush’ exercise to procure the vans and got them within a very short time and I believe all ministries involved were told to give the event the highest priority and spend as they needed to make sure that the event is a success.
Were the millions spent on the event justified?
Was it right to give the event top priority when the country has other more important matters to deal with?
Hussaini Abdul Karim, Shah Alam, Selangor
My reply... MALAYSIA BOLEH... so why not.. |
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