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Post time 19-2-2014 08:43 AM | Show all posts
namirulmukminin posted on 19-2-2014 08:40 AM
Yang aku tahu, dalam pindaan tu nanti, deposit kebankrapan RM2000 yang sebelum ni dibayar oleh ban ...

elok sgt tu. biar diorg pikir jauh sikit sebelum using good money chasing bad one.



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Post time 19-2-2014 08:46 AM | Show all posts
namirulmukminin posted on 19-2-2014 08:42 AM
Depa bukan terkemut2... tapi terpaksa berdepan dengan bantahan bank... Kuasa pelepasan memang depa ...

lawan jerlah apa jadik masalah.

atau takut sebab buat kerja tak efisien ke?
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Post time 19-2-2014 08:49 AM | Show all posts
petola posted on 19-2-2014 08:43 AM
elok sgt tu. biar diorg pikir jauh sikit sebelum using good money chasing bad one.

Ni undang2 untuk Pelepasan yang pakai sekarang...

Discharge of bankrupt by Certificate of Director General of
Insolvency

33A. (1) The Director General of Insolvency may, in his discretion
but subject to section 33B, issue a certificate discharging a bankrupt
from bankruptcy.

(2) The Director General of Insolvency shall not issue a certificate
discharging a bankrupt from bankruptcy under subsection (1) unless
a period of five years has lapsed since the date the receiving order
and the order by which he was adjudged bankrupt were made.

(3) Notice of every discharge under subsection (1) shall be
given by the Director General of Insolvency to the Registrar and
the Director General of Insolvency shall advertise the notice in a
local newspaper as prescribed.

(4) The Director General of Insolvency shall, upon the application
of any interested person, issue a copy of the certificate of discharge
to the applicant upon payment of the prescribed fee.



Objection by creditor to discharge of bankrupt under
section 33A

33B. (1) Before issuing a certificate of discharge under
section 33A, the Director General of Insolvency shall serve on
each creditor who has filed a proof of debt a notice of his intention
to issue the certificate.

(2) A creditor who has been served with a notice under
subsection (1) and who wishes to object to the issuance of a
certificate discharging the bankrupt shall, within twenty-one days
from the date of service of the notice, furnish a notice of the
objection stating the grounds of his objection.

(3) A creditor who does not furnish a notice of his objection and
the grounds of his objection in accordance with subsection (2)
shall be deemed to have no objection to the discharge.

(4) A creditor who has furnished a notice of his objection and
the grounds of his objection in accordance with subsection (2)
may, within twenty-one days of being informed by the Director
General of Insolvency that his objection has been rejected, make
an application to the court for an order prohibiting the Director
General of Insolvency from issuing a certificate of discharge.

(5) Every application under subsection (4) shall be served on
the Director General of Insolvency and on the bankrupt and the
court shall hear the Director General of Insolvency and the bankrupt
before making an order on the application.

(6) On an application made under subsection (4), the court may,
if it thinks it just and expedient—

(a) dismiss the application;

(b) make an order that for a period not exceeding two years
a certificate of discharge shall not be issued by the Director
General of Insolvency.




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Post time 19-2-2014 08:53 AM | Show all posts
petola posted on 19-2-2014 08:46 AM
lawan jerlah apa jadik masalah.

atau takut sebab buat kerja tak efisien ke?

Selalunya memang depa lawan... tak penah depa mengalah... Tapi lawyer yang depa berdepan tu antaranya aku la.... Dan aku selalu attack kelemahan dari segi pentadbiran spt berikut :

1. Bankrap tak bagi kerjasama kepada Insilvensi;
2. Bankrap tak buat bayaran ansuran kepada insolvensi secara teratur;
3. bankrap tak penah hadir ke insolvensi dan waran tangkap tak berjaya disempurnakan;

banyak lagi la point2 yang aku akan attack... semuanya berpunca daripada "kurangnya kerjasama bankrap dalam pentadbiran kes".... Sebab tu aku kata kadang2 bankrap tu sendiri yang cari masalah... dia sendiri yang ciptakan kelemahan kes dia... Insolvensi nak lawan pon mamang kalah la...
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Post time 19-2-2014 08:59 AM | Show all posts
Semua benda mahal, salah 1 cara nak survive kena apply credit crd or loan dgn interest mencanak2. Pastu x mampu bayar then bankrap. Byk fktor lain yg lead to bankruptcy tpi point yg die highlight tu pun betul gak pada aku, sbb aku pun terkesan dgn sumer brg naik. Hrp x tergolong dlm gol bankrap la.
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Post time 19-2-2014 10:39 AM | Show all posts
salah melayu selera besar..
tak reti manage duit..
berhutang ja pandai..
hahahaha
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Post time 19-2-2014 11:57 AM | Show all posts
namirulmukminin posted on 19-2-2014 08:53 AM
Selalunya memang depa lawan... tak penah depa mengalah... Tapi lawyer yang depa berdepan tu antara ...

,kalau peYno tak bayar loan preve boleh bangkrap tak?
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Post time 19-2-2014 12:01 PM | Show all posts
AdamBillionaire posted on 19-2-2014 11:57 AM
,kalau peYno tak bayar loan preve boleh bangkrap tak?

Kalo hutang preve bawah 30k selamat la... Tapi harga preve kan MAHAL NAK MAMPOS.... sah2 boleh benakrap... sebab lebih 30K... Kalu taknak bankrap, suruh dia beli preve kat obersea... dapat harga bawah 30K tak kena bankrap...
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Post time 19-2-2014 12:49 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
namirulmukminin posted on 19-2-2014 05:01 AM
Kalo hutang preve bawah 30k selamat la... Tapi harga preve kan MAHAL NAK MAMPOS.... sah2 boleh ben ...

aku rasa limit bankrap dah naik $50k. Cuba tgk link insolvensi. Ko dah lama tak pg court kes ni kot
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Post time 19-2-2014 01:07 PM | Show all posts
kekbelacan posted on 19-2-2014 12:49 PM
aku rasa limit bankrap dah naik $50k. Cuba tgk link insolvensi. Ko dah lama tak pg court kes ni ko ...

Are u sure? Cuba tengok sini...http://www.insolvensi.gov.my/abo ... personal-bankruptcy

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Post time 19-2-2014 01:12 PM | Show all posts
kekbelacan posted on 19-2-2014 12:49 PM
aku rasa limit bankrap dah naik $50k. Cuba tgk link insolvensi. Ko dah lama tak pg court kes ni ko ...

Seksyen 5 Akta kebankrapan 1967 belum pinda lagi... macam mana buleh jadi RM50k plak? Kalu nak pinda akta kena bahas kat parlimen dulu, pastu gazet... Baru buleh kuatkuasa...

Ni seksyen 5 (1)(a) cakap...

Conditions on which creditor may petition
5. (1) A creditor shall not be entitled to present a bankruptcy
petition against a debtor unless—

(a) the debt owing by the debtor to the petitioning creditor,
or if two or more creditors join in the petition the aggregate
amount of debts owing to the several petitioning creditors,
amounts to *thirty thousand ringgit;


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Post time 19-2-2014 01:13 PM | Show all posts
namirulmukminin posted on 18-2-2014 03:18 PM
Ko nak main isu tapi tak pandai.... bodoh gak ko ni kadang2 rafizi oi.... Masalah bankrap ni berpunc ...

ye ke rafizi tu kadang2 bodoh...aku tengok dia bertambah bodoh ada lah lagi..

ko pun satu sama bodohnya dgn rafizi..dah tahu nak pinjam...tengoklah pendapatan dulu..simpanan ada berapa...jangan ikut tekak je.

masa ko pinjam dgn bank..ko tak tengok dulu ke syarat2 pinjam..ko main sign je ke?..

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Post time 19-2-2014 01:16 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 19-2-2014 01:13 PM
ye ke rafizi tu kadang2 bodoh...aku tengok dia bertambah bodoh ada lah lagi..

ko pun satu sam ...

Ko mampu beli umah & kete secara cash zaman sekarang? Ada pilihan ke? Cakap jangan main sedap mulut je... Kang melantun2 bodo ko kang.... Dah tau lembu tua tu duk angguk2 je dah le...
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Post time 19-2-2014 01:27 PM | Show all posts
bidacool posted on 18-2-2014 03:31 PM
ditambah habit sesetengah org Melayu yang suka pegang pada kata... biar papa asal bergaya...

Yang ni aku setuju. Ade le segelintir kengkawan aku yang biar papa, asal bergaya. Gerun aku nengoknye. Udah hutang kawen, ptptn lagi, keter nak bayor.
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Post time 19-2-2014 01:28 PM | Show all posts
kecuali pada yg terpaksa menanggung musibah mcm kena retrench, kematian breadwinner atau kena tanggung perubatan... yang lain2 tu sebenarnya boleh control jugak... salah sendirila bajet lari sampai boleh jadi muflis... bajet bulanan kenalah surplus.. yg surplus tulah boleh tolong support kenaikan harga untuk short term.  For long term kenalah tengok balik expenditure and make necessary adjustment e.g. downgrade kereta ke, kurangkan makan luar ke etc...
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Post time 19-2-2014 01:30 PM | Show all posts
isseliparjepun posted on 19-2-2014 01:27 PM
Yang ni aku setuju. Ade le segelintir kengkawan aku yang biar papa, asal bergaya. Gerun aku nengok ...

patut la tak terbayar p1 wimax sampai terctos...







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Post time 19-2-2014 01:40 PM | Show all posts
lavajeans posted on 19-2-2014 01:30 PM
patut la tak terbayar p1 wimax sampai terctos...

tak...diorang bese tumpang wifi aku jek
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Post time 19-2-2014 01:53 PM | Show all posts
namirulmukminin posted on 19-2-2014 01:16 PM
Ko mampu beli umah & kete secara cash zaman sekarang? Ada pilihan ke? Cakap jangan main sedap mulu ...

kan..awal2 aku dah cakap...sama je ko ni bodoh dgn rafizi tu..

aku tak cakap pasal mampu beli kereta cara cash...aku tanya ko tu dah ukur dulu tak diri tu..kalau tak mampu..beli gak melalui pinjaman walaupun dah tahu bank tu kenakan ko interest ke tidak..akhirnya ko tak mampu bayar balik...ko jawap sendiri lah kalau ko salah seorang yg dimufliskan tu.

apa banggang sangat sekor ni?..
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Post time 19-2-2014 01:58 PM | Show all posts
isseliparjepun posted on 19-2-2014 01:40 PM
tak...diorang bese tumpang wifi aku jek

itu kisah tanah kubur dino la...



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Post time 19-2-2014 01:59 PM | Show all posts
rikiruj posted on 19-2-2014 01:28 PM
kecuali pada yg terpaksa menanggung musibah mcm kena retrench, kematian breadwinner atau kena tanggu ...

macam sorang porumner sini tu cakap...dia buat pinjaman rumah...tapi rumahnya terbengkalai..terpaksa dia bayar bank dan bayar sewa rumah..so..kalau org ini termuflis...kita boleh faham lah.

ni tak...tak ukur dulu dibadan sendiri..perbelanjaan lebih dari pendapatan...cari lebih malas plak..kerja dia salahkan orang lain..salah bank lah, salah itulah inilah...org2 ini peratusan utk muflis adalah tinggi..
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