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memikat wanita menggunakan "psychology manipulation"
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Post Last Edit by cmf_king_kong at 1-12-2010 23:08
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thanks. menarik. tp benda ni perlukan praktis kan. its harder for women to ...
hani85 Post at 1-12-2010 17:44
this is the problem with you women...all of you thinks too much
takut kena cop murahan laa...takut nnt kena misunderstood lah..takut kena ini la..takut kena tu lah...semua benda takut...ha ha
let me tell you this...a smile won't kill anybody, it's one of the most strongest and yet beautiful gesture in the world...tak pernah aku jumpa org lelaki yg tak suka kalau ada perempuan senyum dekat dia.
Guys amat suka kalau ada perempuan senyum dekat dia...regardless lah samada dia minat atau tak dgn org tu...when a woman smiles to a guy, she already made that guy's day...
ko mesti pernah dengar laki cakap "bila dia senyum tu...gila cair aku sial"....that's exactly how we feel when a woman smiles to us.
tak susah nak approach lelaki ni...ko senyum je dah cukup...unlike us guys who have to comes up with the most extravagant, unique, creative way to get to you girls...we men just need a simple smile..
shyness tu mmg tak boleh buang...aku pun still takleh buang shyness when it comes to approach women...aku still nervous..but like i said before, you need to have the guts...courageous lain sbb it's more like being valiant, must do and succeed...kalau guts, its more like " lantaklaaa...at least aku try...apa nak jadi..jadilah...got nothing to lose " and of course kena berani
yes praktis makes perfect but berapa kali ko mau try la kan?...kang org ckp ko playgirl lagi la ko rasa cam murahan plak..ha ha...tak prektis pun takpa...just set your mind, plan carefully and do it..tu je
ada this guy bagi dia punya namecard dkt ko dan ko plak rasa mau call dia saja2...call je...it's not like you the one who ask for his number kan, dia yang bagi...dia bagi card dia pun sbb dia mau ko call..kalau tak buat apa dia kasi ha ha...again, this nampak cheap assumption is only you being paranoid...takdenye dia nak anggap ko cheap..unless you behaves like one lah...mengada2 tergedik2 tak tentu pasal dgn dia...mestila dia anggap ko cheap..ye tak? |
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Reply 61# cmf_king_kong
this is the problem with you women...all of you thinks too much
takut kena cop murahan laa...takut nnt kena misunderstood lah..takut kena ini la..takut kena tu lah...semua benda takut...ha ha
let me tell you this...a smile won't kill anybody, it's one of the most strongest and yet beautiful gesture in the world...tak pernah aku jumpa org lelaki yg tak suka kalau ada perempuan senyum dekat dia.
Guys amat suka kalau ada perempuan senyum dekat dia...regardless lah samada dia minat atau tak dgn org tu...when a woman smiles to a guy, she already made that guy's day...
ko mesti pernah dengar laki cakap "bila dia senyum tu...gila cair aku sial"....that's exactly how we feel when a woman smiles to us.
tak susah nak approach lelaki ni...ko senyum je dah cukup...unlike us guys who have to comes up with the most extravagant, unique, creative way to get to you girls...we men just need a simple smile..
shyness tu mmg tak boleh buang...aku pun still takleh buang shyness when it comes to approach women...aku still nervous..but like i said before, you need to have the guts...courageous lain sbb it's more like being valiant, must do and succeed...kalau guts, its more like " lantaklaaa...at least aku try...apa nak jadi..jadilah...got nothing to lose " and of course kena berani
yes praktis makes perfect but berapa kali ko mau try la kan?...kang org ckp ko playgirl lagi la ko rasa cam murahan plak..ha ha...tak prektis pun takpa...just set your mind, plan carefully and do it..tu je
ada this guy bagi dia namecard dkt ko dan ko plak rasa mau call dia saja2...call je...it's not like you the one who ask for his number kan, dia yang bagi...dia bagi card dia pun sbb dia mau ko call..kalau tak buat apa dia kasi ha ha...again, this nampak cheap assumption is only you being paranoid...takdenye dia nak anggap ko cheap..unless you behaves like one lah...mengada2 tergedik2 tak tentu pasal dgn dia...mestila dia anggap ko cheap..ye tak?
dats who we r guys. memg perempuan rmai gitu. kami suka cuci mata diam2. then bergosip ngn kawan2, 'hey mamat tu smart la. mamat tu kool la'. tp bila mamat tu pandang, terus tunduk. malu. xbrani nak angkat muka pun. or pandang tempat lain. malu seh nak pandang. n mgkin if mamat tu senyum kat kitorg pun kitorg xnmpak.
aku penah kuar ngn kawan aku. pempuan. dia kata org rmai usha aku. tp aku xpasan. sbb aku sibuk mengusha org yg mengusha kawan aku ni. n aku xperasan/xamek endah lgsung org yg usha aku (unless memg obvious sgt). well dats for me. org lain aku xtau.
kami takut nampak murah. sbb penah dgr org kata, laki lagi suka perempuan jual mahal. bila lagi mahal jual, lagi challenging, thus buat kitorg pmpuan lebeh dihargai oleh lelaki terbabit andaikata hubungan tu menjadi. cuz laki tu akan pk, dulu bukan main susah aku nak dapat pmpuan ni, skg ni memg aku xkan lepaskan dia. aku nak jg dia baik2.
easy come easy go.
ingat? kami perempuan takut dianggap begitu. takut laki cakap, 'ala pmpuan ni. senang gila dapat. aku senyum siket da cair. saja je aku blas dia senyum. nak buat dia perasan.' yeah we r skeptical creature. pikir mcm2. lagi2 dgn dunia sekarang ni. lelaki rmai yg nak main2. n somehow we feel being skeptical is a must. supaya tak mudah percaya n tak mudah cair. kami wanita n kami memang takut.
anyway aku xtau plak pasal senyuman tu disukai kaum laki. new point of view. memg betul ke?
betul2 ke memg org lelaki suka bila kitorang yg pmpuan ni senyum2? kami ni pemalu
n masih takut dianggap gatal
anyway memg ko nyer advice sgt2 bagus n berguna. cumanya aku xrasa bnda tu boleh dilakukan dlm ms yg singkat. nak kena ade guts lagi. nak kena muka tebal lg. aku risau muka aku terherot2 sbb senyum xsempurna n nampak cacat.
yang guy bg namecard tu, hmm... aku xbrani nak contact sbb takut dia bg namecard atas sbb2 bisnes. cuz aku jmpa dia dlm kelas blaja porex. malu plak nak contact. takut dia cakap, aku ni ade ati nak menggatal ngn dia. sdgkan dia bg namecard tu just tuk network for bisnes yg dia buat. |
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push and pull ni teknik atas katil... itu sebenarnye |
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aku tgk TT ni gigih sungguh bab2 ngorat pompuan ni. |
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aku tgk TT ni gigih sungguh bab2 ngorat pompuan ni.
abangbikerz Post at 1-12-2010 23:20
x la..aku suka study and test..ada yg btul.. |
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Reply 65# gigibudak
betul. kena praktikkan baru tahu betul ke x... |
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Reply gigibudak
betul. kena praktikkan baru tahu betul ke x...
hani85 Post at 1-12-2010 23:29
dh praktik secara online dan realiti..ada yg betul n ada yg salah.. |
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Post Last Edit by cmf_king_kong at 2-12-2010 02:00
Reply cmf_king_kong
dats who we r guys. memg perempuan rmai gitu. kami suka cuci mata diam2 ...
hani85 Post at 1-12-2010 23:11
kenapa aku rasa macam aku dah hijack thread tuan tanah...mcm off topic pun ada jugak ha ha..
anyway, menjawab persoalan ko
1. Approches tak sama dengan mengorat. 2 different entitites. Just sebab ko approach mamat ensem dkt lrt tak bermakna ko nak jadi gf dia walaupun niat tu ada. Apa yang ko rasa hanyalah physical attraction, ko minat dia sebab dia hensem..tu je. Katala lepas kenal mamat lrt tu, tiba2 ko rasa dia tu perangai mcm sial, adakah kau masih mau menjadi gf dia? mesti la tak nak kan...so that's where approaches different from mengorat.
mengorat ni proses lepas ko dah kenal agak lama dengan dia...ko rasa perangai dia ok, ada ciri2 yg ko nak dlm lelaki pilihan ko jadi kau mau menjadi teman wanita kepada mamat ensem lrt ini. This time takda dah cover2, all out semua...you show the true you to him with hopes dia boleh accept you for what you are..
having said all that, assumption "nampak murah" ni hanyalah paranoia semata-mata. Kenapa ko nak rasa murahan just sbb nak berkenalan? then belum apa2 lagi nak jual mahal lagi tu...waahh...lebih la neh. Aku senang je, kalau aku dah approach penat2, perempuan tu pulak jual mahal tak tentu pasal...boleh pegi mampos sama ko la jawabnye...banyak lagi perempuan lain...it's okay to play hard to get tapi berpada-padalah. Memang lelaki suka kepada challenging tapi bukanlah pada jual mahal dan fussy tak tentu pasal... org lelaki suka perempuan yg hold onto their principle hence the "hard to get" element tu datang natural..tapi kalau jual mahal yg dibuat2, itu murahan namanya.
Aku faham perempuan being fussy sbb takut dipermainkan, tapi itu hanya terjadi jika perempuan tu sendiri put herself in being vulnerable and that's why i mentioned about Keep Your Pride dekat my previous entry.
2. masa aku naik putra dulu ada sorang budak sekolah menengah perempuan gemok dok senyum2 kat aku, walaupun aku bukan peminat awek jenis buntal dan budak bawah umur tapi aku senyum kat dia balik sebab aku suka kalau perempuan senyum dekat aku...last2 aku pegi borak2 dgn dia smpi dia turun...itu budak perempuan gemok senyum kat aku...kalau ko yg selalu diusha oleh ramai org ni yg senyum2 dekat aku dlm lrt, harus aku terbang di awangan he he...so kesimpulannya, senyumla selalu kerana senyuman itu satu sedekah.
3. Again, apa yang aku terangkan ialah proses approaching, bukan mengorat...ramai org salah faham diantara approach dgn mengorat. Approach adalah sesi berkenalan...kalau ko berkenalan dengan someone, berapa lama je....takkan la sampai berminggu2...paling lama pun proses approaching ni 20 minit sbb objektif approaching ni hanyalah nak buat dia selesa dgn ko dan eventually suka dgn ko..
hope that answer your questions, tak puas ..boleh la tanya...nak tanya tips boleh jugak...nak tanya experience pun boleh gak...open for consultation gitu
mari kita kembali ke tajuk perbualan ...hoyeh! |
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hoh..betol ke laki suke kalo pompan senyum.. |
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ai x suker memikat tp suker di pikat ...lebih thrill cuz lelaki mula dulu |
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Reply 68# cmf_king_kong
okeh. this really an eye opener. byk jgak yg aku xtahu rupanya. mgkin if aku tahu bnda2 ni dulu aku ada chances tuk dpt org yg aku suka. well belum terlambat lagi kot. tiba2 aku rs banyak peluang tuk tekel lelaki. kekeke.
kira konklusi yg aku dapat ialah:
-konsep approach n tekel berbeza.
-jgn takut untuk senyum/mulakan langkah
-jual mahal bagi lelaki more kpd keep the pride rather than takut/xmau membalas senyum, susah nak diapproach, n berlagak sombong/susah nak didekati
-lelaki suka kepada senyuman whether or not org tu dia suka or x
-aku xdikira gedik kalau melayan/tersenyum/mulakan langkah tuk kenal laki.
nnti boleh la aku sebarkan bnda ni kat kengkawan aku. rsnya rmai pmpuan yg xtau bnda ni. masing2 masih tebal dgn mentaliti takut dianggap gedik, senang dapat, suka malayan n all dat stuffs.
kalau ade peluang nnti aku akan try tips2 yg ko suggest tuh. mgkin aku akan hapdet di sini.
n sory jgak kepada tt sbb terlari topik |
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aihh..senyap dah thread neh...
tuan rumah tanak meriahkan balek ka?...kasi la meriah balek...aku mau belajar skill2 baru |
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Reply 68# cmf_king_kong
sukanya tips2 nie...ko nie memang berbakat la part2 ngorat2 nie....
memang kena la tips laki nak dptkan no tu..nampak berkesan..tapi bagi laki y ada keberanian la....huhu...
tips cara pmpn nak approach laki tu aku agak fail..sbb aku klu laki y aku suka, aku berani pandang curi2..bila dia tgk aku..aku tunduk jer..ekor mata aku dok tgk langkah dia..tak berani nak senyum2 tiba2 kt dia...memang tak reti la... |
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Reply 73# Syik_Gojet
biasala perasaan tak berani tu...semua org ada...aku pun masa mula2 start mmg nervous sebab takut kena dimalukan (rejection, public humiliation etc).
risiko public humiliation ni sbnrnya lagi tinggi jadi dkt lelaki sbb mmg kita sedia maklum, lelaki yg approach perempuan, not the other way round.
tapi skrg ni zaman dah maju, it's a fair game..you want it, you work for it...sapa cepat dia dapat...
there is a reason why "body language" called as it is because people can actually reads what's on others mind by the way they move their body...I don't know whether it's a subconscious mind or what, kita sebenarnya tahu ada org tengok kita eventhough kita tak nampak...something like a hunch or intuition.
i mean, kalaulah ada awek depan aku ni, setiap kali aku tgk dia, setiap kali tu lah tiba2 mata/kepala dia melilau tengok benda2 lain...doesn't it obvious? org yg tak show any interest takkan ada synchronization tu..diaorg either buat hal sendiri (dgr ipod ke, baca something ke) or just give a thousands yard stare (termenung).
kalau dah jadi mcm tu lagi senang la aku nak approach...even kalau aku ni perasan je lebih..so what?...in the end aku still akan dpt no phone dia...or paling bangsat pun aku aku akan dpt borak2 dgn dia...
rejection, perasan dan sewaktunya dengannya only happens if you think too much about it...belum apa2 lagi dah pikir pasal rejection semua tu...so camana nak succeed?
benda ni mcm cari kerja la...kalau belum interview pun ko dah pikir psl takkan dapat kerja tu...so mmg takkan dpat laa....you've set your mind towards failure so when you leave it on auto-pilot, that's where it gonna navigate you.
so yes, kena ada keberanian...apa2 dalam dunia pun kena ada keberanian....ko nak mintak kerja, nak pg interview kerja, nak buat presentation, nak belajar driving, nak driving dalam kl, nak pergi jalan2 oversea...smua kena ada keberanian...dan approaching, like everything else in this world...needs courage.
for you info, lelaki ni tak susah...lelaki adalah makhluk paling senang nak di approach baik oleh perempuan or lelaki sendiri..
aku pernah buat experiment, approach lelaki dkt klcc...opening aku senang je.."semalam game man utd, sapa menang bro?"...sebab dia pakai jersi manchester...end up dia belanja aku dekat madame kwan borak2 sampai 2 jam...and this including his wife and kids...and all that happened dengan aku tak tau pun ada game ke tidak malam tu, in fact aku tak minat pun manchester united...but i managed to create a relationship with him by sharing something in common.
itu aku yg approach lelaki...kalau perempuan lagi la senang...ko senyum2 je dah settle masalah..lelaki mana nak tolak kalau perempuan make a move on him...sebab takde apa yg lelaki nak takutkan...takut kene rogol dgn prempuan? lagi suka adalah...the only worried is either perempuan tu insurance agent or org MLM...
aku bagi ko satu tips....masa aku mula2 start dulu..aku lagi nervous...cara aku, aku pegi tegur makcik2 dkt situ..layan borak..org2 mcm makcik or anyone yg ko rasa will not posed any physical attraction only passed you as being friendly...bukan susah pun nak jadi friendly ye tak...so i did it to build up confidence...and trust me, it will calm you down and gives you that much needed confidence...so in my mind aku dah set, kalau aku boleh tegur and layan borak dgn makcik ni who is a complete stranger, why not her?...so i just applied it as i am approaching another "makcik"...
selamat mencuba |
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kadang2 kan aku xnak approach laki yg hot2 sbb aku xnak dia makin berlagak n makin rs dia hot. aku rs mcm "kalah" sbb aku tegur dia dulu (contohnya mcm dlm kelas ke yang mana dia ialah complete stranger). ego aku tggi melangit. silly minded isnt it |
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Reply 75# hani85
reminds me of my classmate...sangat cantik, hot, tinggi...dan dia buat part time modelling
tapi ramai yg tak suka dia...especially perempuan..dan lelaki ramai tak nak tegur..either tak nak tegur or tak berani nak tegur dia...sebab dia hot sangat kot..
padahal bagi aku dia antara org paling baik pernah aku jumpa..tak sombong, suka tolong orang etc etc...
but her beauty is a curse...org assume dia cantik, dia hot, she works as a model so ppl stereotyping her as a bimbo...org pggl dia sundal, sluts, kena bela dengan sugar daddy & mcm2 lagi..
end up dia takde kawan sgt except for me and few others...
mula2 dia sabar je org talk behind her back..last2 dia snapped...quit university, apply masuk college dekat new york..migrate...skrg dah bahagia dekat US...kan dah rugi org malaysia, hilang satu perempuan hot
the moral is, just because someone is born with attractive figures, doesn't mean he/she is like the typical hunk/bimbo...ada org tak sedar or tak ambil kisah pun dgn anugerah yg Tuhan kasi dekat dia....pendek kata...tak vain lah...biasanya org2 mcm kita yg tak seberapa ni yg slalunya in vain ye tak
aku dulu macam tu jugak...tak nak tegur perempuan hot...sebab dah assume dia ni mesti dah ada bf, ramai lelaki kaye nak masuk line, materialistik dan sewaktu dengannya...
tapi aku pegang prinsip, there's a first time for everything...selama ni aku tak pernah approach perempuan hot kategori high class..so aku try la...ada yg mmg stereotype bimbo dan ada yg ok...it's a hit or miss kinda thing...
so the thing is...if you don't try, you'll never know |
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Reply 77# hani85
oih..mcm2 tips aku dah kasi tu |
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Reply 78# cmf_king_kong
huwaaa.... xbrani. sob3
mgkin aku perlukan siket ms. lgpun mgkin akan jmpa lagi pasni |
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