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[MERGED] Kerajaan atau Swasta

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Post time 15-11-2007 10:23 AM | Show all posts
pros n cons..for me..

private:
-salary lebih menarik
-workload lebih byk sbb business oriented..so stress pun lebih la
-promotion doesnt really based on seniority..so u get what u've worked on..but of course make sure boss nampak la contribution u..

govt:
-org cakap keje govt ni relax tapi actually xde la relax sgt pun esp if u r in professional group
-wpun gaji x sebanyak kat private ada security..meaning xde nak risau pasal kena retrench ke apa ke
-normally promotion based on seniority

itu yg bleh i fikirkan setakat ni...tapi my opinion
kalau u still nak sense of security/salary/environment pilih la GLC(govt-linked) work load still sama cam private, salary not bad wpun x sebesar kat MNC(multinational)but ada beza sket environment..

my 2 cent

[ Last edited by  lo_la at 15-11-2007 10:28 AM ]
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Post time 15-11-2007 10:40 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by whiteroselady at 15-11-2007 10:14 AM
kalo nk apply gomen... apply online thru spa nye website...


I dah registered dah. But then again.. lambat lah!.. Kawan2 i sumtimes.. a year later baru kena panggil for interview..
Some said SPA nih just cukup syarat jer. The best option for u to be in the gomen, is to have 'org dalam' there.. then mudah.
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Post time 15-11-2007 10:42 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by lo_la at 15-11-2007 10:23 AM
pros n cons..for me..

private:
-salary lebih menarik
-workload lebih byk sbb business oriented..so stress pun lebih la
-promotion doesnt really based on seniority..so u get what u've worked ...


Dari segi salary wise.. I tak rasa private sect lagik mahal dari gomenthese days... Especially after rombakan. Few of my fwens yg kejerkerajaan.. Salary isn't that bad. Tuh tak campur allowances everythin.Untung banyak.
Some said kejer kerajaan banyak makcik2/pakcik2 so boring. Tapi I tak rase boring la.. Mcm best jer..
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Post time 15-11-2007 11:14 AM | Show all posts
try GLCs....some are good..keje cam swasta tp benefits cam gomen. the best of two worlds.
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Post time 15-11-2007 11:59 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aw76 at 15-11-2007 11:14 AM
try GLCs....some are good..keje cam swasta tp benefits cam gomen. the best of two worlds.


cthnyer SMIDEC? FELDA?- my pakcik told me FELDA has been privatized. what else erk?
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Post time 15-11-2007 01:40 PM | Show all posts
GLCs..
Petronas, Telekom, MAS, Malaysia Airports, Tenaga Nasional, Khazanah Nasional, Proton, Pos Malaysia, Maybank, Sime-GHope-Guthrie (dh merge), UEM Group(Plus, Pharmaniaga, Faber), ..

byk pilihan..

[ Last edited by  lo_la at 15-11-2007 01:47 PM ]
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Post time 15-11-2007 01:52 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ellinda_80 at 15-11-2007 10:40 AM


I dah registered dah. But then again.. lambat lah!.. Kawan2 i sumtimes.. a year later baru kena panggil for interview..
Some said SPA nih just cukup syarat jer. The best option for u to be i ...


huhu..spa mmg lambat..pastu ramai plak yg apply...klau nasib dapat la
then plak klau mintak PTD..kena go thru few stages..tu pun blom tentu dapat

skang ni klau nk cepat, mmg cable la ..
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Post time 15-11-2007 01:57 PM | Show all posts

Reply #10 lo_la's post

based on seniority tuhh...cmne bole kite kate org tuh dh senior gile2? kire dh keje 5,6 taun baru leh dpt promotion ke? ke 10,11 taun then bru dpt promotion
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Post time 15-11-2007 02:18 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aristotle85 at 15-11-2007 01:57 PM
based on seniority tuhh...cmne bole kite kate org tuh dh senior gile2? kire dh keje 5,6 taun baru leh dpt promotion ke? ke 10,11 taun then bru dpt promotion


hmm..m not so sure camne..pasal tahun tu kena tnya org yg keje govt la..i x penah kj govt tapi tau pun sbb ada member yg keje govt citer camtu..

actually keje ni kat mana2 pun ikut rezeki la...my friend's sister, masuk govt level 41..3 tahun keje dh naik 48.. terkejut gak i dgr..meaning dr level 41 ke 44 tu pun dia kejap je naik..
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Post time 15-11-2007 02:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by lo_la at 15-11-2007 01:40 PM
GLCs..
Petronas, Telekom, MAS, Malaysia Airports, Tenaga Nasional, KhazanahNasional, Proton, Pos Malaysia, Maybank, Sime-GHope-Guthrie (dh merge),UEM Group(Plus, Pharmaniaga, Faber), ..

byk ...


TQ. I baru lepas hantar resume kat SMIDEC. Tapi jawatan pembantu jer.Turun pangkat dari aper yg i buwat skang.. Sbb opening tuk jawatan lain(pegawai) perlu ader sekurang2 minima 10 tahun experience...
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Post time 15-11-2007 05:10 PM | Show all posts
no prob

xpe masuk je dulu SMIDEC tu..kadang2 comp ni diorang buat internal opening..jarang buat public opening..unless klau dh xde org dalam yg berminat

so next time ada opening for exec/officer u apply la..normally diorang akan bg priority kat internal staff

good luck !
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Post time 15-11-2007 05:22 PM | Show all posts

Reply #10 lo_la's post

o..nengok gak glc mane. rame kenkawan keje GLC, gaji ciput walaupun listed company...
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Post time 15-11-2007 05:26 PM | Show all posts
uem group tu xyah le...exec gaji rm1600 jek..tolak2 epf adelah 1400..
keje operator rajin wat OT pun lagi banyak...
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Post time 15-11-2007 05:43 PM | Show all posts
saya pernah kerja kat gomen. gembira jugak sebab tiada diskriminasi
walaupun saya bukan bumiputra, tapi mereka layan setara ...

saya pernah kerja dengan plkn
apply saja dengan download borang daripada laman web plkn ...
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Post time 15-11-2007 06:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by easy81 at 15-11-2007 05:26 PM
uem group tu xyah le...exec gaji rm1600 jek..tolak2 epf adelah 1400..
keje operator rajin wat OT pun lagi banyak...


huhu..1600 per month..for real?   
i guess nengok industri la kot..i guess the best bet are petronas, telekom, MAS
i pun sekadar list kan je
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Post time 16-11-2007 03:16 PM | Show all posts
thats y.. luckily my fwen kejer kat SMIDEC.. so dia terus taruk my application under 'shorlisted'
I btul2 berharap sangat2 dapat kat situh..
Tapi gaji as far as Im concerned & according to some of my relatives/friends yg dah kejer gomen.. ikut ur recent salary kat private sect or slightly higher.. so I presume.. kalau rate gaji sama dgn skang pun.. at least ill be getting allowances on top of that..
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Post time 16-11-2007 09:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by lo_la at 15-11-2007 01:40 PM
GLCs..
Petronas, Telekom, MAS, Malaysia Airports, Tenaga Nasional, Khazanah Nasional, Proton, Pos Malaysia, Maybank, Sime-GHope-Guthrie (dh merge), UEM Group(Plus, Pharmaniaga, Faber), ..

byk ...


Keje ngan telekom pun  xdek la byk sgt gaji...dlm 1800 gitu  starting...tolak2 epf tggal 1600 jek...
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Post time 17-11-2007 05:43 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by lo_la at 15-11-2007 01:40 PM
GLCs..
Petronas, Telekom, MAS, Malaysia Airports, Tenaga Nasional, Khazanah Nasional, Proton, Pos Malaysia, Maybank, Sime-GHope-Guthrie (dh merge), UEM Group(Plus, Pharmaniaga, Faber), ..

byk ...


Keje ngan telekom pun  xdek la byk sgt gaji...dlm 1800 gitu  starting...tolak2 epf tggal 1600 jek...
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Post time 19-11-2007 03:43 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by lo_la at 15-11-2007 02:18 PM


hmm..m not so sure camne..pasal tahun tu kena tnya org yg keje govt la..i x penah kj govt tapi tau pun sbb ada member yg keje govt citer camtu..

actually keje ni kat mana2 pun ikut rezeki  ...


hmm... terkejut baca in 3 years dari 41 naik 48... the fastest pun so far yg fox tau, ambik masa at least 4-5 years... but 3? tak dengar pun lagi.... ni la 1st case i dengar... my friends are PTDs... yang masuk tahun 2002 dulu dah naik 48... tu pun memangku.... yang batch 2003 plak baru memangku baru ni, in October... tu pun batch 1/2003... so at least 4 years la baru naik... tu pun tak confirm... memangku baru... the reason kenaikan pangkat cepat compared to dulu2 (at least 10-15 years baru naik 48) is that ada byk kekosongan post...
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Post time 19-11-2007 03:48 PM | Show all posts
both sectors ada pros and cons... kalau nak kata dari segi workload, depends on ministry gak... kalau dapat central agency, workload dia memang sangat heavy... keje sampai malam, tido kat ofis pun biasa... dari segi security, sekarang ni KSN baru dah strict, possiblity untuk dibuang pun ada dah... dari segi cuti, gomen lagi best la banding dengan swasta sebab cuti banyak... benefits pun gomen menang... tapi ada yang tak berapa suka working environment nya...
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