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THE EXISTENCE OF GOD FROM ISLAM'S PERSPECTIVE
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Originally posted by SONofODIN at 12-6-2007 06:23 AM
What is the point of worshipping such as wicked god treating humans like ants?:@
We human try to protect our children from harm, not killing them as we like. Even animals know how to protect their youngs.
Not all human are good, they are evil people as well out there...criminals, drug dealers..etc..etc
Reason Allah send calamities:
1) to elevate status of certian people by means of test and trials
2) to warn others (human)
3) to destoy to evildoers
4) to protect certain people from the evil of certain people
Why there are prisons.... made by human being? why didn't you think about this as well? The people in the prison wants to live as well... will you agree to let loose all the evildoer?? Let them do whatever they want freely...so perhaps that they can kill you and your children without mercy....will you agree...??? |
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Reply #58 Sephiroth's post
I hope you have a long life, as one day death is inevitable to you, no matter what you do to avoid from it....it is reality
But if you life is empty, just like a playtime for you, be prepared before you fall sick. That time you will know who can save you... |
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Originally posted by SONofODIN at 12-6-2007 09:06 AM
Aren't we were taught not to waste?
Yup, and even in Islam, their Allah said that Syaitan likes to befriend with people who waste, so their god don't want to be friend with Syaitan so he saves the buildings, which is more important. And since Muslims multiply like rabbits, it's useless to save them.  |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 12-6-2007 06:22 PM
I hope you have a long life, as one day death is inevitable to you, no matter what you do to avoid from it....it is reality
But if you life is empty, just like a playtime for you, be prepared ...
Bodoh ... you think I'm the type of fears Death and run and hide. Death is natural process, no use hiding or avoiding it. ONLY FOOLS will think of fearing Death and try to avoid Death.
If Muslims like you fear Death, it shows that Muslims have no faith in God. Their "faith" is just business to them - they sell their time to their god and their god (assuming exists) sells them a brothel called heaven. |
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Reply #64 Sephiroth's post
I'm not saying you're afraid of death. What I meant to say, when the time near your death, you will realise the power of GOD. Anyhow, maybe you're not feeling that at the moment...
Just a matter of time... |
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Reply #56 wei_loon5063's post
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kafir is always kafir and tempat mereka hanya di neraka.. utk org Islam,kami akan ditimbang dulu pahala dan dosa..dan kami juga akan dimasukkan ke neraka setimpal dgn dosa yg dilakukan lepas tu baru masuk syurga.. based from what i learnt and know la.. |
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Originally posted by ms_pearl at 13-6-2007 10:00 PM
kafir is always kafir and tempat mereka hanya di neraka..
Bagaimanakah kalau dua orang...
A yang tinggal di kampung dan tak pernah denganr pun tentant Tuhan dan dia tak pernah buat dosa..
B yang sembahyang kat Allah 5 kali sehari tapi buat dosa?
siapa pergi ke syurga? |
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Reply #67 wei_loon5063's post
Dalam Islam, dosa paling besar yang tidak dimaafkan adalah syirik atau menyengutukan Allah.
It sounds very harsh to non-Muslim, very sorry but that's the explanation.
The non-Muslims, who do good actions, they will be rewarded in this world for their good action (probably that's why you accepted karma). There will be no place for them in the Hereafter (no happy place, sorry, just explanation please don't take this as bad words)
For the Muslims, Allah will choose whether to reward their action in this world or in the hereafter. If they were not rewarded in this world, they will get better reward in the hereafter.
Allah is Just. For those who the call of Islam has not reached them, then He will decide accordingly...and this is up to Allah alone...
Those Muslims who prayed 5 times honestly but keep sinning (and regret), the prayer becomes the means for him to get his sin expiated, and later on to get out of the bad deeds. But if he keep sinning without repent, it is quite impossible for him to honestly offer 5 times prayer all the time. He will indulge in sins and he will ignore prayer. If he does not repent, he will be punished for his misdeeds
[ Last edited by mnm77 at 13-6-2007 10:32 PM ] |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 13-6-2007 10:26 PM
Dalam Islam, dosa paling besar yang tidak dimaafkan adalah syirik atau menyengutukan Allah.
It sounds very harsh to non-Muslim, very sorry but that's the explanation.
tak perlu minta maaf.. tak ada yang perlu sorry sorry
There will be no place for them in the Hereafter (no happy place, sorry, just explanation please don't take this as bad words)
Even if greed is not freed.. do you think someone will ask Allah for even more bliss in heaven?
I have few more questions... I will ask in the context of this thread...
say Allah give guy 72 virgins in Heaven and if this guy he have sex with other girl but his own and rape the girl in heaven... will he be send to hell?
and this guy in hell.. he is damn regret.. will he be given a chance?
also.. when you pray, Do you feel connected to Allah as the christians did? 
[ Last edited by wei_loon5063 at 13-6-2007 11:12 PM ] |
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Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 13-6-2007 11:05 PM
Even if greed is not freed.. do you think someone will ask Allah for even more bliss in heaven?
I have few more questions... I will ask in the context of this thread...
say Allah give guy 72virgins in Heaven and if this guy he have sex with other girl but hisown and rape the girl in heaven... will he be send to hell?
and this guy in hell.. he is damn regret.. will he be given a chance?
also.. when you pray, Do you feel connected to Allah as the christians did?
In heaven, there will be no evil, and no such rules as in the world.
Everything is for pleasing oneself as a reward from the Almighty
Entering heaven meaning like having his own kingdom, he will be free doing anything, even drink wine (which is not allowed in this world). He is the king of his kingdom. He set his own rule, and he was given a portion of the God's power (whatever he wish, he will get, and he will wish for good only)
Only sinful Muslims in hell will be given chance to enter paradise
When I pray to Allah, I believe Allah is listening my words... and I hope He answers my prayer |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 13-6-2007 11:29 PM
Entering heaven meaning like having his own kingdom, he will be free doing anything, even drink wine (which is not allowed in this world). He is the king of his kingdom. He set his own rule, and he was given a portion of the God's power (whatever he wish, he will get, and he will wish for good only)
Even pork? :stp:
why prohibit now and allow in heaven? Do you seek this bliss in heaven? 
When I pray to Allah, I believe Allah is listening my words... and I hope He answers my prayer...
Hope??? :hmm: |
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Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 13-6-2007 11:33 PM
Even pork? :stp:
why prohibit now and allow in heaven? Do you seek this bliss in heaven?
not too sure about pork... there are so many other delicious food so maybe pork will no longer become one's food
Prohibition is a test for one's obedient. Adam was given everything in Heaven, but was prohibited to go near a tree (as a test)
If you past the test, you will be rewarded.
Similarly, if you pass your PhD, you will get Dr.
Hope and Fear of Allah is the key for success. Hope for his mercy, Fear for his wrath. |
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Reply #72 wei_loon5063's post
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No one can be sure 100% whatever he wish will be granted... |
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A person born Muslim does not necessarily dies as Muslim, similarly a person born as a Non-Muslim does not necessarily dies as a Non-Muslim |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 13-6-2007 11:43 PM
A person born Muslim does not necessarily dies as Muslim, similarly a person born as a Non-Muslim does not necessarily dies as a Non-Muslim
This I know.. how do you define muslim?
take the Lina case.. she die as a muslim... will she be judge as a muslim?
what is she now? name on IC is mslim, heart on Jesus.... so? |
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muslims kiasu. So lina is Christian but will remain muslim in name. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 13-6-2007 11:48 PM
muslims kiasu.
wrong generalisation
So lina is Christian but will remain muslim in name.
right, if she accepted Christian in her heart |
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Reply #76 wei_loon5063's post
Islam means literally means peace
Muslim is the person embrace Islam
To be a Muslim: follow the teaching of Islam by
1) Accepting in heart
2) Confirming by touge (mengucap)
3) Approving with actions (amal) |
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Originally posted by mnm77 at 13-6-2007 11:56 PM
To be a Muslim: follow the teaching of Islam by
1) Accepting in heart
2) Confirming by touge (mengucap)
3) Approving with actions (amal)
Is it? my teacher told me this.. any person that utter "leer ileer e lerrlahh" three times back to back straight is automatically a muslim. is it?
so, hitherto........ do you feel Allah? |
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