HAMAS : Pesanan Buat Umat Islam di Malaysia

Kita ni rakyat malaysia cakap je berkebuk........Hamas itulah Hamas inilah....semua tak betul pasal Hamas..
abih tu...selama berpuluh tahun kita hidup, apa sumbangan kita kat islam?... atau...islam ke orang2 yang dok mengutuk Hamas ni...kata semua orang boleh kata tapi jgn terbatal syahadah dah ler.....kalau dah terer sgat pegi lah ambik balik baitul maqdis dari orang israel....pergi la....mintak baik2....kan orang yahudi tu member2 korang yang menentang Hamas?...

BeanDiesel

Originally posted by syawall25 at 5/27/06 03:20 PM
kalau dah terer sgat pegi lah ambik balik baitul maqdis dari orang israel....pergi la....mintak baik2....kan orang yahudi tu member2 korang yang menentang Hamas?...

so kalo tak sokong hamas, kena la gi sendiri mintak baitul maqdis dari dorang. kalo sokong plak cammana? gi join suicide bombing?

cool down. there's nothing wrong with exchanging ideas. in fact, persuading each other to do and believe what is deemed right itself is a contribution too.

mahathirGX

Originally posted by gennosukesama at 26-5-2006 11:35 AM


sokong palestin. doakan mereka.

penduduk Muslim selatan Thai  &  pulau  Filipina  tanak berdoakan ker? :bgrin::bgrin:

[ Last edited by  mahathirGX at 31-5-2006 07:15 AM ]

ct_og

Ya Allah... kau rahmatilah semua saudara seIslam ku tidak kira di mana mereka berada... Amin...

Originally posted by mahathirGX at 31-5-2006 07:48 AM

penduduk Muslim selatan Thai  &  pulau  Filipina  tanak berdoakan ker? :bgrin::bgrin:

doakan semua umat Islam.( masalahnya, ramai solat 5 waktu pun tak cukup, camana nak mendoakan. )

mr gennosukesama..

cuba teka.. solat 5 waktu saya cukup ke tak ?..

mahathirGX

Originally posted by gennosukesama at 1-6-2006 06:22 AM


doakan semua umat Islam.( masalahnya, ramai solat 5 waktu pun tak cukup, camana nak mendoakan. )

takpe...  nanti  anda  boleh  jadi  juru  intai sembahyang  org :bgrin::bgrin:

zulyha

kita kat malaysia ni memang lah senang bercakap..bercakap...dan terus bercakap..tapi pernah tak korang rase keperitannya?bukak saje mate dah terdengar bunyi bom merata-rata..adik kechik mati kene tembak..kakakak kena cabul..ayah mati sebab pertahan kan tanah mereka..?tidor di jalanan bagai pengemis?kesejukkan x der selimut?korang pernah rase tak??so macam mana mereka tak fight back?cube letakkan diri korang kat situasi mereka...kite senang lah nak cakap kite kat malaysia...mereka takde choice lain selain lawan balik dgn apa cara sekali pun..korang tak sedey ker tengok sedare islam kite merempat kat tanah sendiri??bersyukur lah sebab kite tak dilahirkan kat negara macam tu..tapi kalau kita alpa kita bakal jadi macam tu jugak..

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw5V5VTZ8PE [/URL]

ps:sorilah kalau emo sangat..tapi aku dah bosan tengok umat islam di tindas..

orangbesi

salam

tak pelah depa masih nak berseronok
kan di HARI YANG MENGGERUNKAN tu akan TIBA jugak
masing masing akan MELIHAT sendiri apa yg dikerjakannya

yg depa tu dah berjihad di dunia yg singkat ni
mudah mudahan aman depa esok diHADAPANNYA
kita niiiiiiii

BeanDiesel

yeah, kite kat malaysia senang la cakap. sama la cam kes US invade negara lain. kite senang la cakap. mane tau dorang cammana. kan? i guess we can't speak against anything huh?
the same goes with the US soldiers yang allegedly bunuh civilians kat Haditha. kite mane tau kan kesengsaraan dia, yang hilang kawan dalam peperangan. right?

a crime is a crime guys. kalo tak orang yang senang lenang jek la yang bole convicted, since orang lain mesti ade jek alasan. gee!!

zy

Originally posted by mahathirGX at 1-6-2006 02:51 PM

takpe...  nanti  anda  boleh  jadi  juru  intai sembahyang  org :bgrin::bgrin:

Bertambah haru kalau sembahyang pun tak ikhlas.Kalau bab2 asas di remehkan jangan bicara pasal perjuangan.

Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 4-6-2006 07:13 AM
yeah, kite kat malaysia senang la cakap. sama la cam kes US invade negara lain. kite senang la cakap. mane tau dorang cammana. kan? i guess we can't speak against anything huh?
the same goes with  ...

ternyata bean sokong musuh Islam. kita dok pikir pasal susah orang Islam, dia dok pikir pasal orang kapior. takpelah, memandangkan kat negeri orang kapior, mungkin jadi lupa asal usul.

[ Last edited by  gennosukesama at 5-6-2006 03:38 PM ]

Originally posted by Ulek at 1-6-2006 10:04 AM
mr gennosukesama..

cuba teka.. solat 5 waktu saya cukup ke tak ?..

mana aku tau solat nko?Tuhan tau le. mungkin tak cukup kot.

[ Last edited by  gennosukesama at 5-6-2006 03:41 PM ]

Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 4-6-2006 07:13 AM
yeah, kite kat malaysia senang la cakap. sama la cam kes US invade negara lain. kite senang la cakap. mane tau dorang cammana. kan? i guess we can't speak against anything huh?
the same goes with  ...

kenapa askar us nak sengsara?...depa suka lagi dapat tembak oang Islam.
Musykil betul aku, betul ke ko ni. same goes? ada ke same...ish-ish. telebih bijak kot

BeanDiesel

Originally posted by gennosukesama at 6/8/06 06:09 PM


kenapa askar us nak sengsara?...depa suka lagi dapat tembak oang Islam.
Musykil betul aku, betul ke ko ni. same goes? ada ke same...ish-ish. telebih bijak kot

that's an analogy. the thing is, adakah kite tak berhak untuk condemn tindak tanduk satu pihak just because kite tak tau exactly perasaan dorang cammana? some people suggest that we can't criticize the killing of Israeli civilians because we have no idea what they (the killers) have been through. i dont think so. otherwise takde siapa boleh condemn a crime just because we don't know isi hati criminal tu. if you commit a crime against humanity, it doesn't matter what's in your heart, what your intention is, what cause you're fighting for, it's just plain wrong.

when i mention askar US punya sengsara, what i was refering to is war trauma commonly experienced by soldiers. those soldiers who kill civilians kat Haditha can say that they're really upset that their friends are killed. of course we can say that why they're there in the first place? but remember that the soldiers are ordered to go there by the administration. it doesn't matter whether or not they believe that the war is just.

but to me they can say anything about their emotion that led to the crime, but it won't justify the action. it's still a crime.

[ Last edited by  BeanDiesel at 8-6-2006 06:51 PM ]

BeanDiesel

Originally posted by gennosukesama at 6/4/06 11:36 PM

ternyata bean sokong musuh Islam. kita dok pikir pasal susah orang Islam, dia dok pikir pasal orang kapior. takpelah, memandangkan kat negeri orang kapior, mungkin jadi lupa asal usul.

it is common that some people expect people to either support every action of the people who claim to fight for Islam, or support every action of musuh Islam.
the truth is, I support neither.

I believe in Islam, but I don't necessarily support everybody who claims to fight for it. Why? Claiming such thing doesn't make every action right.

In the case of Hamas, I do not support them because they were responsible for killing of Israeli civilians. keyword, civilians. they claimed responsibilities for many cases. whether or not Israelis do the same is a different story. again, two wrongs do not make a right. If somebody kills your child, is it right to kill the person's child? NO. the same goes with the crisis.

i'm not sure what exactly you mean by asal-usul. I came from the country where the majority believe that all Jews are bad. I grew up believing that. But I changed, even before I came here.

fleurzsa

Sad to say...

Beberapa keluarga Palestin yg I kenali agak kurang dlm beramal ibadat.  Fahaman sekular masih menebal dlm jiwa mereka.

Semestinya menjadi kewajiban rakyat Palestin utk berjihad bg mempertahankan Islam & negara mereka drp dicerobohi.

Bagi kita yg negara masih aman damai ni...  marilah sama2 kita tingkatkan amal ibadat selagi berpeluang.

AllahuAkbar.

jerai

Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 9-6-2006 09:50 AM


it is common that some people expect people to either support every action of the people who claim to fight for Islam, or support every action of musuh Islam.
the truth is, I support neither. ...

macam mana pula ariel sharon membunuh pelarian disabra dan shatila,

petaijeruk

by the way, palestinian ni pun dak suma yg menentang israel kan? penah la terbaca kat paper, pengakuan sorang pemuda palestin (by that time dia dlm penjara).
Dia habaq dia keja utk askar israel since budak2 lagi sebab kesempitan hidup..tugas dia, pi matikan mana2 bom yg dipasang kat laluan askar israel (yg depa dpt trace la..) & juga jadi informer utk askar israel yahudi nih..
utk tugas tu dia dapat upah duit - dia kata dia perlu duit tu utk tampung hidup family & utk dia belajaq...
tapi dlm dok buat keja tu, dia tertangkap..

jerai

Originally posted by petaijeruk at 9-6-2006 10:09 AM
by the way, palestinian ni pun dak suma yg menentang israel kan? penah la terbaca kat paper, pengakuan sorang pemuda palestin (by that time dia dlm penjara).
Dia habaq dia keja utk askar israel si ...

Ingat lagi tak zaman jepun dulu ada melayu keje ngan jepun,
bagi matlumat tentang penentangan orang melayu pada tentera jepun,
so orang macam ni apa yang patut kita panggil,
mungkin dia terpaksa keje ngan jepun untuk makan dan minum sehingga terpaksa
mengkhianati bangsa kita, jadi apa pendapat hang tentang perkara ni?