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oh ye lagik satu..i was holidaying in UK last year...
it's more fun spending my own money (not rakyat money of coz)..
kiri kanan nampak young malaysian - shopping which i believe they r still students...
until now kimy akan sumpah seranah dia if they used their scholarship shopping kat mark&spenser/primax tuh..travel with ur own money is more priceless, my dear...enjoy ur own hardwork..
not rakyat's hardwork...kimy bayar cukai banyak giler last yr - beribu kene..
soooo if i got a chance nampak these ppl shopping around - i will straight tell them..
if u think u want to spend rakyat's money - get off from this place..it is my money that u r spending!!
hahaha...just kidding!! |
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Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 28-1-2006 06:45 PM
no, it's really not. you'll get a lot more exposure out here, it's priceless.
priceless..yes!saya setuju..tp brapa ramai yg menghargai pengalaman yg diorg dpt di oversea..terlalu sikit..tu yg saya maksudkan sama je blaja mana2..but bg org yg betul2 berpikir n appreciate everything yg diorg lihat,dgr, rasa di negeri org n learn drpd ctu..mmg priceless |
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Originally posted by kimytooby at 28-1-2006 10:58 PM
oh ye lagik satu..i was holidaying in UK last year...
it's more fun spending my own money (not rakyat money of coz)..
kiri kanan nampak young malaysian - shopping which i believe they r still stu ...
hurmm..banyak ke scholar yg diorg ni dpt?bukan dpt cukup2 mkn je ke?..ada tu yg terpaksa buat part time utk survive..kalau x silap la |
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Originally posted by kimytooby at 1/28/06 06:51 AM
eer, why are u so mad? i'm just saying that the experience is priceless.
let's see.
[quote]Originally posted by kimytooby at 1/28/06 06:51 AM
tak kisah laa belajar kat memana2 ...
mmg laa belajar kat obersea tuh priceless...
tapi kalau balik sini mengganggur jugak - jadik bahan umpatan..
buek habeh boreh yo..priceless ker tuh?
your experience doesn't always guarantee you a job. but that doesn't mean your experience is worthless.
some of my colleagues yg sama office (obersea grad) - tak pon pandai speaking..
believe me i've seen that kind of people. mostly malays. when they get here they live among malays. they do everything with malays. they don't mix around with other people. and that's a waste.
takpulak jadik scorer...hutang mara pon tak bayar...priceless again?
hmm..thinking about that..it is priceless if u can return whatever u hv received...
i'm not sure if u actually understand what 'priceless' mean.
tak bayar hutang mara has nothing to do with your experience.
if u spending ur scholarship to hv fun (e.g. shopping, travelling)...u r wrong!!
itu semua duit rakyat..not yours...priceless again?
think about that!
what are u trying to say? i get my scholarship money, i spend it for food, and books primarily. and i use the extras (plus my own salary) for fun, saving, and to help my mom. what is wrong with that? what does it have to do with the exposure i was talking about? |
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Originally posted by cherrish at 1/29/06 03:05 AM
hurmm..banyak ke scholar yg diorg ni dpt?bukan dpt cukup2 mkn je ke?..ada tu yg terpaksa buat part time utk survive..kalau x silap la
for my case, kalo tetiap hari makan luar sebab busy, yes, it's just cukup makan. but it may depend on the city.
here in LA, sponsor baya sewa rumah, sebab dok on campus. pastu dapat $400. makan dalam lebih kurang $10 sehari. i also work 18hrs/week. dapat la dalam $600+ sebulan. and that's where the real money for fun comes from.
but yang aku tau la, duit sponsor kasi usually memang cukup untuk makan, walaupon cukup cukup jek. but normally orang keja utk cari duit lebih, ataupon salah budget duit scholarship. |
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Originally posted by cherrish at 1/29/06 03:03 AM
priceless..yes!saya setuju..tp brapa ramai yg menghargai pengalaman yg diorg dpt di oversea..terlalu sikit..tu yg saya maksudkan sama je blaja mana2..but bg org yg betul2 berpikir n appreciate ...
yeah, as i said, many malay students dont use the opportunity sebaik baiknya. dorang dok berkampung jek. dok ngan orang asing tak semestinya kite kena ikut budaya dorang. but it's a good opportunity to learn about each other.
one of the things that i like about being here is the freedom of speech, and how much ideas can be exchanged with it. in a writing class, i wrote a paper that criticized the national leader. outside class, i could see a pro-Palestine booth (that was surprisingly runned by white americans) and a pro-Israel booth, both with opposite ideas, but peaceful nevertheless. I also saw an open demonstration against the University the other day, organized by her own students. during the election season, i saw a political debate participated by leading candidates of the opposition to find their top candidate, telivised nationally. i saw students helping out the party of their choice, for the love of their country. in class, i've had the chance of learning from a NASA astronaut, from a former CIA agent, from a dancer of Dirty Dancing. i am in the country that is hated by most muslim world, but i'm still treated like anyone else so far. i've learnt from an Arab as well as a Jewish professors, who give me good grades for my performance, who like me for my personal merit, rather than religion or political view.
those are just a few of the things that you can't really get in Malaysia, for various reasons (that includes the govt's policy). and i've been to a malaysian university. aku bukan nak pandang rendah kat University malaysia, but i believe we still have a long way to go.
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whatever it is...whatever u do..when its involved with rakyat's money..
think twice..
whatever priceless it is...my company just dont care whether u r oversea's graduate
or local...hahaha..some more my company is multinational company..
suprise surprise!! |
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ok laa beandiesel..
if u really think it's priceless...
dont ever bring the word 'priceless' during ur job intreview in mesia...
ppl just dun care...i hv chopped off sooo many candidates with this attitude..
obersea mak obersea..pedulik apa aku..hehee
no offence buddy!! |
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Originally posted by kimytooby at 2/1/06 02:44 PM
ok laa beandiesel..
if u really think it's priceless...
dont ever bring the word 'priceless' during ur job intreview in mesia...
ppl just dun care...i hv chopped off sooo many candidates with th ...
so should i say the experience is worthless?
i dont get it. so it's people's money. so is it wrong if i say the that the experience i get is priceless? i'm grateful, is it a crime?
i wonder if people really understand what "priceless" actually mean.
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Originally posted by kimytooby at 2/1/06 02:44 PM
if u really think it's priceless...
dont ever bring the word 'priceless' during ur job intreview in mesia...
ppl just dun care...i hv chopped off sooo many candidates with this attitude..
it seems like what you mean by attitude is that of some people who thinks they're way better than anybody else just because they graduated overseas. now that's a different story. merely cherishing your experience doesn't mean you're being condescending. |
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takpe dik..
just continue whatever u r doing..
maybe u r special kind of person that we should be proud of..
let's see...what is priceless is actually means..
maybe ur priceless defination means a lot to u privately but not to any other ppl..
whatever it is - always keep ur feet to the ground..)
GoodLuck buddy!!! |
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perggghh.. dah off topic sungguh2 nih..
btw,
just wondering laa... kalau an oversea graduate tuh rasa experience dia blajar kat oversea tuh priceless.. apa tuh dah dikira blagak or tak berpijak di bumi nyata ker? Kat mana yg blagaknya? |
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Originally posted by cyra at 2/2/06 06:35 PM
just wondering laa... kalau an oversea graduate tuh rasa experience dia blajar kat oversea tuh priceless.. apa tuh dah dikira blagak or tak berpijak di bumi nyata ker? Kat mana yg blagaknya?
that's what i've been wondering. :stp: |
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:hmm:
teringat sorang member aku balik dr UK... pagi petang siang malam dok pakai cap... rerupanya x tahan dgn cuaca kat m'sia.. perghh... koro tahap cipan!!! :lol
so... those who graduated in oversea yg mendapat bantuan k'jaan ni... aku selarkan supaya tanamkan sikap utk membantu anak bangsa sendiri... okay, fine u all nk enjoy utk pengalaman jgak tu... tp jgn la smpai jadik bob marley asian... yg pompuan plak bole berlakon blue ala2 vcd terlampau plak... :kant:
malu wei... :agr: sebabnya k'jaan letakkan harapan tinggi kat korang... kna bertanggungjawab skit la.. bile balik tu pikir2kan la nk share technology & so called precious experience... jgn dok makan gaji keja ngan k'jaan plak... maklum la korang tu grad obersea... :lol |
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sebab dorang rasa priceless laa kot - semua org cakap tak nak dengar dah..
pengalaman kat obersea ajek yg best - apa yg ada kat mesia ni kutuk2..
dah korang belajar kat obersea tuh - share2 la..yg kimy jumpa semua kedekut & perasan bagus..uwekkk
org keliling cakap semua kata tak bertamadun..
maybe korang kat forum ni semua pelajar2 yg bagus...terdidik bla bla...
so kami berbangga dpt pelajar mcm korang yg sedar diri..
so far yg kimy jumpa - terlampau taksub dgn pengalaman kat obersea - jadiknye jadi angkuh..
apa2 pon..berpijak laa di bumi yg nyata...
takpe laa..tunggu saje...masa nye akan tiba utk menguji.. |
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back to the basic..where ever we are..we seek for knowledge..some may study local and some end up abroad..we can never justify who is better by looking at where we graduate from..in the end of the day..your result matter most..no point being abroad with a crap result..waste of tax payers money..same apply with local unive..good thing PTPN vouch for result these days..make people taking study seriously..same goes with MARA blacklisting those who ran from the responsibility to pay back their loan..manner wise..regardless where you study..same problem occurs..not to be bias but oversea grad may work abroad..while most malaysian degree would not make that far unless to further study..local grad however may 1 semester of practical placement while our oversea's friend may not have such experience..so who's the best now?the best lies in you...ask yourself are you an excellent student right from the beginning?should you happen not to be the category, have you done everything to rewrite your history...for a better place to study?for a better result?..only you could answer..if i graduated from oversea..why the guy graduated from local has a better life than me measured in monetary amount?if i graduated form local university..why didnt i score and apply scholarship to do my master abroad?..good thing comes for those who wait..you may miss the opportunity to study abroad today..but the next 4-5 years you'll have chance to do so should economy condition prevail..for those who being sponsored right all the way to success, have you get the highest result?...dont worry..only you..and you know how are you doing..have you achieved your lifelong target...very best of wishes for your future undertakings.. |
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there are Malaysian students who graduated overseas that are the symbol of failure, there are those who did very well.
there are students graduated from local U's who do better than overseas graduate in their post-graduate careers, there are those who don't.
being graduated overseas does not ensure lifelong success, that's a fact. your experience may or may not contribute to your success.
but when i said that my experience here is priceless, i'm not implying i'm better than anybody else. i just love my experience. nothing wrong with that. and i have been to a local university, and in most ways, i prefer my experience here. don't tell me it's "berlagak" simply because i'm using my freedom to prefer something.
but i know when i come back a lot of people will misunderstand me. if i dont like direct exposure from the sun people will think i look down on our climate because i've been to cold places, when the fact is, i've always hate any temperature outside 20-27 centigrade. if i think our our politics suck they'll think i'm too Americanized, when the fact is, i've always think that way.
there are people who actually hate their own people, literally. i've seen such people.
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Agree with BD, oversea experience is indeed priceless. The fact that some oversea students failed to fulfil their responsiblities towards the people, does not change the fact that the experience itself is priceless. Islam also urge its people to travel and see the world. That's why our friend here still willing to spend his hard earned money for a holiday stint at UK though he is not that compatible with oversea graduates. However, this does not simply means oversea graduates are better than the locals becos the quality of a person lies within the person itself no matter where he/she resides in this world becos the fact that Allah is fair to everybody in this world. |
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Originally posted by mimzzzy at 24-8-2005 12:08 PM
Bukan nak kutuk U students
i was in university once. been there done that.
Tapi senjak 2 menjak nie. Rasanya U tempt belajar tu bukan lagi jadik tempat belajar.
Local U tak tau.. but yang ove ...
Definitely not me 
I'm not sponsored by whatsoever scholarship
And i study hard
But yeah.. i do think that some sponsored students take things for granted
Met lotsa students like that. |
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Reply #1 mimzzzy's post
Local pun lebih kurang sama aje...pakai handphone yang latest...aku pun setakat 3310 baru tukar 3120....
Tapi masa aku kat obersea...10-12 tahun dulu...takde le nak mewah2 kena yang duduk London...beli baju branded pun tunggu sale....jalan2 pun setakat skitar UK...siap kena buat part time lagi.....bila kumpul duit nak balik Mesia masa summer break. Aku masa final year lepas exam baru aku pi Europe.... |
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Category: Belia & Informasi
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Post time 28-1-2006 10:58 PM
