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Post time 8-9-2009 11:41 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by mizz_aurora at 3-9-2009 16:34

my supervisor ask me to implement some kind of AI in my project
rase mcm xmampu je.. sy bkn majoring in AI
da la tggl lg 2bln je nk siapkan  ...
mizz_aurora Post at 3-9-2009 16:30


Sepatutnya ko tanya supervisor ko tu apa some kind of AI yg dia nak tu dan mintak rujukan bacaan dari dia. Kalau tak, bagitau kat dia ko bukannya majoring AI, apasal suruh ko buat benda yang universiti ko tak pernah ajar. Universiti ni masalahnya macam tu lah. Ajar tak pernah, tiba-tiba nak suruh budak buat itu ini.
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Post time 12-9-2009 02:58 AM | Show all posts
banyak benda boleh buat sebenarnya..
aku idea ada, tapi ilmu ni kureng cket la
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 Author| Post time 14-9-2009 04:17 PM | Show all posts
Sepatutnya ko tanya supervisor ko tu apa some kind of AI yg dia nak tu dan mintak rujukan bacaan dari dia. Kalau tak, bagitau kat dia ko bukannya majoring AI, apasal suruh ko buat benda yang unive ...
alusmetai Post at 8-9-2009 23:41


lec aku tu sajes je.. die pon xtau nk gune yg mane
die suh aku cari sndri ape yg ssuai utk implement dlm project aku tu
tp aku ade tny senior aku.. die ckp cube try rule-based algorithm
die mcm if else then tp lbey advance sket
slain tu nak gune function pon bole... (suggestion dr 1 of forummer)
tp sume2 tu aku xtau cane nk implement
nmpk sgt la skill programming aku ni sgt lemah
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 Author| Post time 14-9-2009 04:19 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by mizz_aurora at 2-10-2009 13:51

40# mamazahin

xde pon advice... sume saya yg suggest
tajuk ni pon saya yg pilih sndri
tp nasib la lec tu sudi gk jd supervisor saya
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 Author| Post time 14-9-2009 04:25 PM | Show all posts
banyak benda boleh buat sebenarnya..
aku idea ada, tapi ilmu ni kureng cket la
tekoyong Post at 12-9-2009 02:58


sile la kongsi2 idea anda
sharing is caring
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Post time 14-9-2009 07:12 PM | Show all posts
43# mizz_aurora

ko nak guna AI kat sistem apa?
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Post time 15-9-2009 09:03 AM | Show all posts
ok aku bg contoh sket kalo nk gune simple algorithm utk sistem ko nie...
contoh

//permulaan carian ko
1.state: kedah
2.place to go:langkawi

//extra criteria to search for hotel
3.price
aku bg cth
if user kate die nak range harga 500-699
so automatik ko kena letak range harga tue pemberat plg max skalik cth:5
then ko turunkan satu range ke bwh dlm list ko cth range 300-499
bg la pemberat :3

so nanti ko kuarkan list hotel mane yg plg memenuhi criteria user based on jumlah pemberat...

secara basicnye gtu la....

pakai if else dlu...buat algorithm biasa dlu atas paper je..
biler dh ok baru transfer dlm coding...
gtu la cara nk phm flow sistem ko lbih baik...
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Post time 16-9-2009 04:34 PM | Show all posts
47# mamazahin

Tu macam sql operation biasa je, mama. Kang naya si aurora kena gasak examiner nnt. Kata AI, tapi sql ops biasa je.
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Post time 16-9-2009 05:20 PM | Show all posts
lec aku tu sajes je.. die pon xtau nk gune yg mane
die suh aku cari sndri ape yg ssuai utk implement dlm project aku tu
tp aku ade tny senior aku.. die ckp cube try rule-based algorithm
die mcm if else then tp lbey advance sket
slain tu nak gune function pon bole... (suggestion dr 1 of forummer)
tp sume2 tu aku xtau cane nk implement
nmpk sgt la skill programming aku ni sgt lemah
mizz_aurora Post at 14-9-2009 16:17


Ni takde kena mengena dgn skill programming. Ko boleh jadi programmer terhebat tapi not knowing anything about AI, vice versa.

Rule-based algorithm tu kita panggil association rules. Underlying association rules, ada apriori algorithm. Go search for them for details. Beside association rules, kita boleh guna tree utk generate rules. One particular algorithm under tree ialah ID3 algorithm. Go search for it.

Association rules secara asasnya ko nak carik pattern dlm data ko, ko ada database, dan dlm database ko ada tables. Dalam tables ko ada attributes dan attribute ada set of attribute values. Ko kena pilih which attributes in all tables in your database yang relevan untuk generate rules and then put the ones yg ko dah pilih in a single table. After some data cleaning and some other preprocessing,  ko barulah boleh apply any of the association rules algorithm dan akhirnya ko akan dpt pattern dlm data yg ko boleh guna utk mendapatkan maklumat atau insight tentang sistem atau bisnes ko. Contoh pattern yg boleh kita imagine boleh dpt dari sistem hotel ko tu, "foreign tourist => Package A" katakanlah package A adalah attribute value yang ko dah preprocess dari beberapa attribute yg constitute package A spt 'Room Type','Meal Type','Service Type' dsbgnya.

Tree ko guna utk classify satu2 row dlm single table yg ko dah dapat tadi. Untuk tree however ko kena add another attribute we call class attribute yang menentukan classification sesuatu row dlm single table tadi. So untuk tree however ko kena tahu before picking up any attribute, kenapa ko nak guna tree tu, ko nak classify apa...apa classificationnya. Contohnya, ko ada table customer dan lain-lain table yg ada attribute yg relevan dan ko nak tentukan sama ada customer tu ialah our potential returning customer. So, the additional class attribute yg kita sudah fikirkan tadi ialah 'Potential Returning Customer' dan possible attribute values ada 2 aje: Yes or No. Lepas preprocessing, just apply ID3 algorithm dan ko akan dpt beberapa rules dpd tree yg algorithm itu hasilkan yg menentukan sama ada customer itu returning customer atau bukan.

Hope that helps.
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Post time 17-9-2009 08:44 AM | Show all posts
sorry alusmetai.....mama just nak bg die paham simple basic program dlu how her system works....by the way she tell us...i dun think she capable of doing any AI programming or core programming(forgive me if i'm wrong ya....)
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 Author| Post time 2-10-2009 01:45 PM | Show all posts
47# mamazahin  

Tu macam sql operation biasa je, mama. Kang naya si aurora kena gasak examiner nnt. Kata AI, tapi sql ops biasa je.
alusmetai Post at 16-9-2009 16:34


alusmetai... AI tu just option je.. xsmestinye kne implement
lec sy bg suggestion je utk implement AI instead of using sql query yg biasa
tp rasenye AI tu mcm complicated je nk implement.. da la php ni pon xpas2 lg
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 Author| Post time 2-10-2009 01:48 PM | Show all posts
Ni takde kena mengena dgn skill programming. Ko boleh jadi programmer terhebat tapi not knowing anything about AI, vice versa.

Rule-based algorithm tu kita panggil association rules.
alusmetai Post at 16-9-2009 17:20


thanks a lot!
tp it sounds complicated to implement je
act 20nov ni final demo.. risau xsmpt lak nk siap
da la php tu pon dok merangkak2 lg
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 Author| Post time 2-10-2009 01:50 PM | Show all posts
ok aku bg contoh sket kalo nk gune simple algorithm utk sistem ko nie...
contoh

//permulaan carian ko
1.state: kedah
2.place to go:langkawi

//extra criteria to search for hotel
3.price
aku ...
mamazahin Post at 15-9-2009 09:03


mamazahin... thanks for ur sharing
sy pon tgh dok test2 query utk bnd ni
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 Author| Post time 2-10-2009 01:54 PM | Show all posts
sorry alusmetai.....mama just nak bg die paham simple basic program dlu how her system works....by the way she tell us...i dun think she capable of doing any AI programming or core programming(forgive ...
mamazahin Post at 17-9-2009 08:44


exactly mama... i dont think i can do any AI programming in a very limited time
ape yg mama bg tau tu sgt membantu.. psl basic program on how do my system works
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Post time 4-10-2009 08:46 PM | Show all posts
thanks a lot!
tp it sounds complicated to implement je
act 20nov ni final demo.. risau xsmpt lak nk siap
da la php tu pon dok merangkak2 lg
mizz_aurora Post at 2-10-2009 13:48


sebenarnya tools untuk run algorithms tu dah ada. Ko cuma kena run je program tu ke atas data2 yg ada. So, major work and time spent will be on the preprocessing of data dan sistem tu sendiri lah, plus of course nak belajar menggunakan tools tu.
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2009 05:39 PM | Show all posts
sebenarnya tools untuk run algorithms tu dah ada. Ko cuma kena run je program tu ke atas data2 yg ada. So, major work and time spent will be on the preprocessing of data dan sistem tu sendiri lah, ...
alusmetai Post at 4-10-2009 20:46


hmm.. dah ade ke? cthnye ape? nnt juz kne implement je ke?
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Post time 6-10-2009 04:51 PM | Show all posts
hehe org pmpn mmg lemah sikit coding2/program2 ni.. tp x tau nape org llki sesng je bleh dpt..
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Post time 6-10-2009 11:45 PM | Show all posts
hmm.. dah ade ke? cthnye ape? nnt juz kne implement je ke?
mizz_aurora Post at 5-10-2009 17:39


contoh tools ke contoh problem? kalau contoh tools try experiment with weka. Contoh problem pulak ada dalam posting sebelum ni.
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 Author| Post time 8-10-2009 03:58 PM | Show all posts
hehe org pmpn mmg lemah sikit coding2/program2 ni.. tp x tau nape org llki sesng je bleh dpt..
buterfly Post at 6-10-2009 16:51


kannnnn... cpt pick up la dorg ni
jarang jmp pmpuan yg hebat programming
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Post time 16-10-2009 02:28 PM | Show all posts
hai sy pon tgh wat fyp...

nak tny ade x sesape taw mne nak dpt rjukan sal php (selain w3school ) ??

sy ade problem contohnye bile pengguna masukkan kod barang (pri key) then nk pgil  balik      

sgla mklumat yg die dah masukkan sblm ni dr database & paparkn balik ke satu page...

ade sesiape taw tlg la ye
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