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[Jenayah]
Mahathir: Mana lagi RM27 bilion 1MDB? Tak maafkan Najib -page 11-
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Edited by blastoff at 27-4-2015 02:52 PM
Natijah dari kata-kata kau tu adalah perlembagaan M'sia memberi kuasa mutlak pada menteri kewangan untuk bertindak sesuka hati terhadap aset, rizab dan kewangan negara ?  Wowww ini dah tahap berat ni dari negara demokrasi berperlembagaan kepada autocracy a system of government by one person with absolute power. 
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di mana yang dimaksudkan
'sesuka hati'?
PM sebagai pengerusi dan
penasihat,
tunjukkan mana satu unsur
suka hati yang didakwa
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Aku tanya kat kau sekali lagi , adakah menteri kewangan punya kuasa mutlak mengatasi perlembagaan dan parlimen ? 
Aku tak tanya pun PM punya kuasa apa dia, yang aku tanya adalah menteri kewangan punya kuasa lah .
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dorang tak paham pasal hutang untuk invest.
negara mana yg takde hutang??
normal la ada untung/rugi dlm invest.
kebetulan rugi beberapa ratus biliyon pon nak bising.
ofkos bijan tak buat 1mdb ngan gst tu sesuka hati.
dia ada menteri yg bijak2... cgpa 3.85.
1mdb dan gst tu dibuat demi
pembangunan, kemajuan ekonomi dan
memperjuang nasib rakyat.
benda simple gitu pon dorang tak paham 
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yang mana perlukan persetujuan
parlimen dibawa ke parlimen,
namun bukan dalam
semua perkara
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"1mdb dan gst tu dibuat demi
pembangunan, kemajuan ekonomi dan
memperjuang nasib rakyat."
Poodah..RM27 billion lesap. Ada "Wolf" tukang bahamnya. Macam Malaysia tak ada sumber2 lain utk menjana kewangan selain drpd GST? Pada kadar 80% rakyat berpendapatan bawah RM4k sebulan dan tidak mampu bayar cukai pendapatan, GST dikenakan? Ini Mat Maslan punya statement apa? Hakikatnya pentadbiran PM Kangkong yg sememangnya ..kangkong!! |
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kangkong999 replied at 27-4-2015 04:50 PM
"1mdb dan gst tu dibuat demi
pembangunan, kemajuan ekonomi dan
memperjuang nasib rakyat."
Dia sinis jer tu... |
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Edited by blastoff at 27-4-2015 05:39 PM
Dalam perlembagaan M'sia ada dinyatakan mengenai tatacara berhutang dan tatacara membuat plan pembangunan samada oleh kerajaan persekutuan dan/atau kerajaan negeri .....
Tengok article 92, 108 dan 111 yang aku merahkan tu . Apa yang aku faham dari yang tertera di perlembagaan tu adalah nak buat development atau nak berhutang bukan boleh di putuskan oleh menteri kewangan je 
Nak buat projek pembangunan, memerlukan recommendation dari committee expert selepas consultation dengan National Finance council yang terdiri dari PM, menteri2 yang di lantik PM, dan satu wakil dari setiap negeri2 yang dipersetujui perlantikan oleh yang di pertuan agung , The National Land Council, kerajaan negeri yg terbabit, dan jugak Yang di Pertuan Agung sendiri kena puas hati pembangunan tu boleh betul2 bagi manfaat pada national interest , barulah Yang Di Pertuan Agung akan perkenankannya, lalu plan pembangunan tu boleh lah dibentangkan di parlimen untuk kelulusan .
Bab nak berhutang oleh kerajaan persekutuan plak hanya boleh melalui kuasa federal law . Federal law di putuskan dalam parlimen lah kan . Dan kerajaan persekutuan kalau nak berhutang kena minta nasihat dan inform pada National Finance Council terlebih dahulu , maknanya sebelum berhutang lagi semua wakil dari semua negeri akan maklum mengenainya .
Bukannya dah buat hutang berbillion baru terbongkar rahsia macam yang 1MDB buat tu, semua pakat habih tak tau apa berlaku pun melainkan 1MDB je.
Do correct me if I'm wrong .
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http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Malaysia
Chapter 5 - National developmentArticle 92.
- (1) If, after a recommendation from an expert committee and after consultation with the National Finance Council, The National Land Council and the Government of any State concerned, the Yang di- Pertuan Agong is satisfied that it is conductive to the national interest that a development plan be put into operation in any area or areas in one or more of the States, the Yang di- Pertuan Agong may, after publishing the plan, proclaim the area or areas as a development area; and thereupon Parliament shall have power to give effect to the development plan or any part thereof, notwithstanding that any of the matters to which the plan relates are matters with respect to which, apart from this Article, only States would have power to make laws.
- (2) Any Act passed in pursuance of this Article shall recite that it has been so passed and that the provisions of Clause (1) have been complied with; and Article 79 shall not apply ta any Bill for such an Act or any amendment to such a Bill.
- (3) In this Article, "development plan" means a plan for the development, improvement, or conservation of the natural resources of a development area, the exploitation of such resources, or the increase of means of employment in the area.
- (4) Without prejudice to their power under any other Article to require any interest in land to be acquired or granted for federal purposes, the Federal Government may from time to time require the reservation for the purposes for a development plan, to such extend as they may specify, of any land in a development area which is not occupied by private persons: but any diminution, in consequence of the reservation of the annual revenue received by a State shall be made good to the State by the Federation.
- (5) All income received by the Federation through the operation of a development plan shall, subject to Clause (6). Be applied-
- (a) in the first instance, for the provision of capital and the meeting of working expenses for the development plan;
- (b) in the second instance, for the repayment to the Federation of any expenditure, including expenditure under Clause (4), incurred by the Federation in operating the plan; and
- (c) as to the balance, for payments to the State in which the development area is situated in two or more States, to those States in such proportions as the Federal Government may determine.
- (6) If it is agreed between the Federal Government and the Government of any State which includes the whole or any part of the development area that any expenditure incurred in operating the development plan is to be met by the State, any expenditure so met shall be repaid to the State and the repayment shall rank pari passu with the repayment to the Federation of any expenditure incurred by the Federation.
- (7) Parliament may repeal or amend any Act passed in pursuance of this Article, and for that purpose may make such incidental and consequential provisions as it may consider necessary.
- (8) Nothing in this Article shall affect the power of Parliament or of the Legislature of any State-
- (a) to impose such taxes or rates as it is authorised to impose under any other provision of this Constitution; or
- (b) to make from the Federal Consolidated Fund or the State Consolidated Fund, as the case may be, grants not repayable under Clause (5) or (6);
except that where, in pursuance of Clause (1), a rate is imposed on any property by federal law which, but for this Article, might have been imposed by State law, no rate of the same kind shall be imposed by State law for any period for which the rate imposed by federal law is payable.
Article 108.
- (1) There shall be a National Finance Council consisting of the Prime Minister, such other Ministers as the Prime Minister may designate, and one representative from each of the States, appointed by the Ruler or Yang di- Pertua Negeri.
- (2) The National Finance Council shall be summoned to meet by the Prime Minister as often as he considers necessary and whenever the representatives of three or more States demand a meeting, but there shall be at least one meeting in every twelve months.
- (3) At any meeting of the National Finance Council the Prime Minister may be represented by another Minister of the Federation, and the Prime Minister or, if he is not present, the Minister representing him, shall preside.
- (4) It shall be the duty of the Federal Government to consult the National Finance Council in respect of-
- (a) the making of grants by the Federation to the States;
- (b) the assignment to the States of the whole of any portion of the proceeds of any federal tax of fee;
- (c) the annual loan requirements of the Federation and the States and the exercise by the Federation and the States of their borrowing powers;
- (d) the making of loans to any of the States;
- (e) the making of development plans in accordance with Article 92;
- (f) the matters referred to in item 7 (f) and (g) of Federal Lists;
- (g) any proposal to introduce a Bill for such a law as is mentioned in Article 109 (2) or Article 110 (3) or (3A);
- (h) any other matter in respect of which this Constitution or federal law makes provision for consultation with the National Finance Council.
- (5) The Federal Government may consult the National Finance Council in respect of any other matter, whether or not it involves questions of finance, and the Government of a State may consult the said Council in respect of any matter which affects the financial position of that State.
Article 111.
- (1) The Federation shall not borrow except under the authority of federal law.
- (2) A State shall not borrow except under the authority of State law, and State law shall not authorise a State to borrow except from the Federation or, for a period not exceeding five years, from a bank or other financial source approved for that purpose by the Federal Government, and subject to such conditions as may be specified by the Federal Government.
- (3) A State shall not give any guarantee except under the authority of State law, and such guarantee shall not be given except with the approval of the Federal Government and subject to such conditions as may be specified by it.
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najib memang tahi!!!
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Edited by blastoff at 27-4-2015 05:36 PM
1MDB adalah investment kerajaan persekutuan , yang buat plan development dan berhutang atas nama kerajaan , so of course la mesti tertakluk bawah perlembagaan M'sia yang jelas menyebut syarat ketat untuk 2 perkara nih.
Memang logik lah apa yang tertera di perlembagaan tu kerana apabila ia membabitkan kewangan negara yang boleh membawa kesan buruk pada semua kalau tak di handle dengan betul, maka tak boleh di buat secara diam2 lah, kena di inform dan di consult berbagai pihak la sebelum nak buat lagi , dan kena dapat kelulusan di parlimen .
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Apa nak pening, pembangkang ajak berderetan lawyers kat dalam Bar Council tu belek dan teliti habih2 la article2 dalam perlembagaan yang sebut mengenai bab2 hutang dan development plan tu .,,, lepaih tu kalau dah jelas ada isu perlanggaran perlembagaan dalam aktiviti 1MDB maka heret laa ke mahkamah , habis ceta.
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Edited by blastoff at 27-4-2015 05:48 PM
Dah nama pun demokrasi berperlembagaan, takkan lah bab yang bersangkutan dengan pembangunan dan hutang serah bulat2 kat menteri kewangan plak kot yang bermakna kuasa mutlak lah plak kang dia dapat pada perkara yang involve big money and big spending ..... andai di buat melalui parlimen kelulusannya baru ada demokrasi padanya .
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sebab itu tak ada apa yang perlu
disorok
diserahkan kepada audit negara
dan PAC untuk teliti dan
dedahkan kepada umum
sebarang ketidakpatuhan atau
penyelewengan jika ada
belajo la sikit untuk bersabo
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masalah 1mdb seleweng duit negara takpenting pon.
langsung tak menjejaskan negara.
byk lagi isu lebih penting yg bleh menggugat
ekonomi dan mengguling kerajaan contohnya
seperti isu liwat anwart.
peguam negara terpaksa menjadi pencelah
dlm kes liwat yg bleh meruntuhkan negara.
isu 1mdb nih terlalu kecil.
cuma madey sorang je yg bising.
takde aduan dari rakyat pon.
terbukti rakyat menyambut baik hutang 1mdb.
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apabila rata2 profesion guaman
dikuasai majoriti yang pro pembangkang,
maka segala yang berkaitan perundangan
amat mudah dieksploitasi demi political
mileage pembangkang
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Ia bukan masaalah audit aje , ia bukan berkaitan dengan akaun dan nombor aje, tapi ia berkaitan dengan perlanggaran perlembagaan negara oleh pentadbiran najib, kerana hutang negara di buat oleh kerajaan persekutuan under 1MDB tanpa mematuhi cara yang di sebut jelas dalam perlembagaan tu .
Btw kewujudan audit negara tu pun jelas tertera dalam perlembagaan jugak. Tapi nampaknya hanya bab audit aje nak ikut perlembagaan, tapi bab hutang nak ikut kehendak sendiri plak .
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tang mana yang tertera sesebuah syarikat
kena melalui parlimen jika
nak buat pinjaman?
ang ni geng bodo bar council
punya orang ka apa ka
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The National FInance Council yang di sebut dalam perlembagaan ni dah wujud ke idak kat M'sia ni
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(4) It shall be the duty of the Federal Government to consult the National Finance Council in respect of-
- (a) the making of grants by the Federation to the States;
- (b) the assignment to the States of the whole of any portion of the proceeds of any federal tax of fee;
- (c) the annual loan requirements of the Federation and the States and the exercise by the Federation and the States of their borrowing powers;
- (d) the making of loans to any of the States;
- (e) the making of development plans in accordance with Article 92;
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Edited by blastoff at 28-4-2015 09:44 AM
1MDB diwujudkan oleh kerajaan , ia bukan company persendirian najib sendiri, tapi ia bergerak under kerajaan M'sia totally so hutangnya adalah hutang kerajaan persekutuan .... sebab tu tun det mengamuk kerana negara terima bahananya disebabkan hutang2 tu dibuat oleh kerajaan .
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Post time 27-4-2015 02:51 PM
