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Post time 14-8-2007 10:59 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by estrellas at 14-8-2007 10:55 PM


i gather you are from semiconductor industry? device design?

dutcy is from oil and gas industry



Correct.

But once I was in heavy industry enviroment also , so we can consider we are in the same page when discussing about language in our job , but god give me "kemahuan" utk majukan diri saya berhijrah ke bidang baru yang lebih sesuai dengan jiwa saya.
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:01 PM | Show all posts
kalau pasal keja bidang teknikal plak.. pentingkan bahasa inggeris sebab technical terms,... mmg susah sgt2 nak terima alasan tuh... sbb masa blajar pon bukan guna english terms ker??

kalau saya salah harap maaf laa... sbb saya tak blajar kat malaysia... dan tak pernah amik tau student kat ipta malaysia nih blajar teknikal guna malay/english terms... saya assume jerlaaa semua org blajar guna english terms... yerlaaa... dah kalau math dan sains sekolah pon dah kelam kabut nak in english.. apa kehal plak kat univ nak guna bm? tak make sense betol.... haru2

pada saya pentingnya english nih bila kita nak sediakan dokumen... situ aja yg saya nampak kepentingan english nih dalam bidang teknikal... tapi tuh pon bukan masalah besar.... benda tuh semua leh catch up dgn pantasnya... kita bukannya nak go into literature... kita nak buat technical documents jer.... adeihlaa......

contoh terbaru, saya pegi interview ngan satu big company, also GLC, bebaru nih, honestly, experience saya sket sgt.. baru setahun lebey... so si interviewer nih bercerita laa pasal background sorang candidate sebelum saya nih... mmg gempak abislaa technical background dia... dia demand pon tak tinggi... masa si interviewer nih crita, saya senyum ajalaaa... dalam hati komfem tak dpt ler nih.... dahlaaa saya demand sekt punya tinggi

but then tetiba aja dia ckp.. masalahnya saya fasih bertutur dalam bahasa inggeris... very fluent laaa katanya... so dia dalam dilema jugaklaa katanya.... walaupon dia still nak tgk candidate2 yg lain...

masa tuh saya rasa 'laaaa.. tuh pon nak dilema ke?'.. bukan patotnya bahasa tuh cam priority kedua ke? bukan sama level? nih the way dia nak evaluate, dia nak letak sama level lak... contohnya kalau dia ada dua org yg sama tahap technical skill nya... tapi sorang tuh lagik terer bertutur dalam bahasa inggeris, then yerlaaa mmg patotlaaa dia amik the latter tuh... tapi kalau dia ada sorang yg terer bab teknikal, kureng sket bab bahasa inggeris, and another one kureng sket bab teknikal, tapi terer english.. then agak ntah pape kalau dia nak hire the latter tuh semata2 sbb terer english... eh korang paham tak apa aku cuba nak sampaikan nih?
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 14-8-2007 22:53



Ki ki , u accept it? That mean apa yang anda kata anda yakin mula mula semua private sector use english ni bull#?



It is not bull#..specially if your comapny client is from various parts of the world..
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 14-8-2007 10:56 PM

anda programmer

saya dlm bidang Oil and Gas...cuba anda quote postings saya...yg pada pendapat anda membangkang

when talking abt bidang technical ianya sangat luas    


Adakah kata kata dibawah anda taksirkan sebagai saya mengata anda membangkang?

Tak perlu bangkang apa yang saya kata , saya berdiskusi , kenapa perlu sangat taksub dgn kepercayaan sundiri hingga gagal mengenal pasti yang mana bangkan , yang mana pendapat. Duh
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 14-8-2007 10:59 PM



Correct.

But once I was in heavy industry enviroment also , so we can consider we are in the same page when discussing about language in our job , but god give me "kemahuan" utk majukan  ...

good for u
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 14-8-2007 22:57

agaknyer since depa mai gherja kt Malaysia...depa HARUS bertutur lam BM kot?    


erk kak dut jgn nak melawak lahhh...customer oveseas lah
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by estrellas at 14-8-2007 11:02 PM



It is not bull#..specially if your comapny client is from various parts of the world..


I dun care about ur factory dude.

This is what u have said.

but in private sector...everything is in english...
Errr private sector  everthing in english? Errr r u damn sure?


Bottom line not all private sector.
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:07 PM | Show all posts

Reply #200 anti_aktivis's post

i rest my case there
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 14-8-2007 11:03 PM

good for u   



Good for me?
No , lucky for me , sebab orang non melayu yang banyak bagi peluang kat saya , sebab depa tak sebodoh hingga mengatakan without BI , u r loser.
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 14-8-2007 11:02 PM


Adakah kata kata dibawah anda taksirkan sebagai saya mengata anda membangkang?
Tak perlu bangkang apa yang saya kata , saya berdiskusi , kenapa perlu sangat taksub dgn kepercayaan sundiri hingga gagal mengenal pasti yang mana bangkan , yang mana pendapat. Duh


adikkk...kak dut yg tk faham BM ker haper neh??   
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by estrellas at 14-8-2007 11:07 PM
i rest my case there


Glad u agree not all private sector use english entirely.
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:10 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by estrellas at 14-8-2007 11:05 PM


erk kak dut jgn nak melawak lahhh...customer oveseas lah

owhhh....cam aper yg kak dut cuber terangkan ler...sal penting nyer BI to be used overseas   
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:11 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 14-8-2007 11:07 PM



adikkk...kak dut yg tk faham BM ker haper neh??    



Faham tak perkataan yang dikeluarkan oleh seorang guru kepada  anak muridnya.

"tak perlu mencuri utk cari wang , kita bekerja"

Takkan itu bermaksud cikgu tersebut menuduh murid mencuri?

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Post time 14-8-2007 11:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 14-8-2007 11:07 PM



Good for me?
No , lucky for me , sebab orang non melayu yang banyak bagi peluang kat saya , sebab depa tak sebodoh hingga mengatakan without BI , u r loser.

jadi anda mengatakan org melayu bodoh lah yer?
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 14-8-2007 11:11 PM



Faham tak perkataan yang dikeluarkan oleh seorang guru kepada  anak muridnya.

"tak perlu mencuri utk cari wang , kita bekerja"

Takkan itu bermaksud cikgu tersebut menuduh murid mencur ...

cuber anda tranlate kan wat saya...lam BI mungkin saya lebih faham


  
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 14-8-2007 11:12 PM

jadi anda mengatakan org melayu bodoh lah yer?   



Datang bulan ke kak oiiiii.

Tang mana yang aku kata orang melayu bodoh?


No , lucky for me , sebab orang non melayu yang banyak bagi peluang kat saya , sebab depa tak sebodoh hingga mengatakan without BI , u r loser.


Emosional tak tentu arah laaaaa
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 14-8-2007 11:13 PM

cuber anda tranlate kan wat saya...lam BI mungkin saya lebih faham


    



Oooo rendah pemahaman rupanya. Tak pa saya translatekan

"No need to steal , we work to earn money" said teacher to his student.

Errr guru tu kata student dia mencuri ka?

Ki ki ki kesian kesian kureng sikit
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 14-8-2007 23:07



adikkk...kak dut yg tk faham BM ker haper neh??    


dok panggey2 adik plak...kak dut memang tak paham BM

adik nak tidolah..esok ade conf meeting
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:28 PM | Show all posts

Reply #195 cyra's post

paham.. paham...
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Post time 14-8-2007 11:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 14-8-2007 09:57 AM

agaknyer since depa mai gherja kt Malaysia...depa HARUS bertutur lam BM kot?    

patutnya kot cam tempat me duduk ni, walau dalam canada mostly cakap english
tapi bila masuk quebec jangan haraplah nak cakap english, dorang tak heran ngan english ni..
nak keja sini then kena cakap peranchis.. kalau tak nak, pegi tempat lain...
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