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Ayaan Hirsi Ali - listen to this ex Somalian muslim says about Islam
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For once I agree with you
(1) Where in the bible that Jesus confirmed to have died on the cross?
(2) Where in the bible Jesus in his own words admitted to die for your sins?
(3) No mention of Trinity , you know the 3 in 1 formula for God in the bible
Yet trinitarians like you 'die die' believe in such
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wkk5159 replied at 8-4-2015 11:32 AM
Taqiyative muslim like sam1528 who pretends to be bible scholar pig headedly denying the triune nature of God.....
John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one.
Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 11:27 - "All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal {Him.}
Therefore i said;
LOL , the naive joh10:30 argument again? Why don't you read from verse 20. In context it means that the Father and Jesus are one in purpose. To further demonstrate this argument , in verse 34 he called the people who questioned him 'gods'. Ha ha , this is the problem with trinitarians like you , you read into the the bible , not from the bible.
Whaaaat! Mat28:19 means that it is a mention of the Trinity? Again and again you have been duped. This verse is actually an early later day insertion. If we cross reference this verse to the following
- acts2:38 - Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
- acts10:48 - So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.
we can confirm that mat28:19 is an early later day insertion.
LOL , I will repeat mat11:27 again and underline the pertinent phrase :
"All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal {Him.}
If something been handed to you from someone or something , this means that the person or thing who handed you the something is the more powerful entity. If that entity is God , there is no way you can be God (unless you believe in the pagan concept of a lesser God).
Appears that the following best describe you :
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Like we have seen much too often, imbacilic barefaced muslims like sam1528 who pretends to be Bible scholar are making a mockery out of themselve by interpreting the Bible the moooslem way.....
Take a look at John 10:30 again, This passage is another of Jesus' many claims to be God. He, says, "I and the Father are one." The Jehovah Witnesses and muslims will say something like, "Jesus was just saying that he and Jehovah were of "unity of purpose."
But they obviously purposely overlooking else in Bible that; " If the Jews believed that they had unity of purpose with God. Since they already had that, why did they pick up stones to kill Jesus?
Wasn't death the penalty for blasphemy, which is what they knew Jesus just committed by claiming to be God ! "
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Perfectly describes muslim sam1528....
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Wow....this bible scholar wannabe muslim aka sam1528 still pig headedly deny the deity of Jesus eventhough there are mounting Biblical evidences that Jesus's claim to be God.....
Now let's see other supportive verse....
John 8:58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
Doesn't the above verse couldn't be any direct ???
Therefore this accolade best reserve to muslim sam1528
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Breaking news ! Sissy mufti sam1528 has converted to Jehovah Witnesses.
According to reliable sources, he wants to emulate his childhood idol, Michael Jackson by embracing the faith of his idol......
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Edited by sam1528 at 9-4-2015 11:59 AM
wkk5159 replied at 9-4-2015 11:45 AM
Wow....this bible scholar wannabe muslim aka sam1528 still pig headedly deny the deity of Jesus eventhough there are mounting Biblical evidences that Jesus's claim to be God.....
Now let's see other supportive verse....
John 8:58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
Doesn't the above verse couldn't be any direct ???
Therefore this accolade best reserve to muslim sam1528
LOL , anybody can say 'before Abraham was born , I am'. What is the big deal? It doesn't mean you are God.
All of us exist in God's foreknowledge .... no issue about it. We can even say , before the world ... I am .... because we already exist in God's foreknowledge.
This is such a simple concept but somehow or rather you are confused.
Since you are so blur , you take the following prize :
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wkk5159 replied at 9-4-2015 11:50 AM
reaking news ! Sissy mufti sam1528 has converted to Jehovah Witnesses.
According to reliable sources, he wants to emulate his childhood idol, Michael Jackson by embracing the faith of his idol......
Ha ha , I notice the attempt in you to change topics.
You cannot even defend your position in joh10:30. You are now just clueless.
You then do what you do best : Change topics ..... I call this pathetic .... LOL
For you :
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This accolade best reserved for muslim sam1528
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I copy paste part of my post#27
Now context goes out of the window for you in your argument of joh10:30. Ok then if we agree on literal reading , lets have a look at joh17:21-23 (NIV)
21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—
23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity.
Now we have everyone being one with God the father , meaning everyone now is God per your literal reading of joh10:30.
Are you now reading joh10:30 literally but joh17:21-23 in context? Then you are just a hypocrite exercising mental gymnastics in your reading into the bible.
LOL , this shows that you really believe in the lies you tell yourself.
Literal reading for joh10:30 and contextual reading for joh17:21-23. This is what we call bull shitting to oneself. In short
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I dunno , you
- read joh10:30 literally
- read joh17:21-23 in context
This is what we call lying to oneself. Ha ha ...
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This accolade is copyrighted to none other than sissy mufti sam1528...
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wkk5159 replied at 9-4-2015 01:19 PM
Now this sissy mufti interpret John 8:58 as God foreknowledge of us....
This is interesting, if Islamic god Allah really has foreknowledge about the fate of muslim in current world scenarios, this moon god Allah must be weeping away knowing the fact that he can't stop the blatant embarrassment of muslims worldwide, let's see; they are 1. Champion in terrorism 2. Champion in corruption. 2. Champion in lies and deception. 4. Champion in misogynism 5. Champion in whatever backward and retrograde.....
Best of all, this moon god sure regreting now he has no foreknowledge of the existence of a dumbass known as sam1528 in this forum......
LOL , now its changing topics to Allah the so called moon God. Moon in arabic is 'qamar'. There is surah Qamar in the Quran and it is not even talking about Allah. This is an argument reignited again by Eric Bell , a third grade movie producer , your hero.
LOL , champions of
- Terrorism - data by the FBI state otherwise
- Corruption - the givers to the depotic muslim leaders are christians like Obama - ie. 'military aid'
- Lies and deception - we muslims do not practice literal and context reading like what trinitarians like you do
- Misogynism - the christian church leads in sexual assults on women
- Backward and retrograde - have a look at a christian dominated country in Burundi
Ha ha , you cannot even answer to the response of 'before Abraham was born , I am'.
This is very poor. You are forcing yourself to believe in your own lies.
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One liners is a fact that you have no more rational arguments
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