the difference between muslim convert and christian convert

hujanhijau · Post time 11-3-2009 01:58 PM

this thread is simple.
i just try to compare between those who accept certain faith.

who would choose islam, who would choose christianity..thats all..
and i boast that most of scientist chose islam, and i gave you a simple way to test whether its true..
(you can just google 'scientist convert to islam/christianity' for a quick test)

by the way, why it took you so long to post a comment here?
well, it doesnt matter anyway, you already here and i dont think you will leave untill you make others believe that you didnt intentionally avoid this thread before (that is if im right about you)

Debmey · Post time 12-3-2009 03:34 PM

Originally posted by hujanhijau at 11-3-2009 13:38
i never said there wasnt one.
the only thing i claimed is that theres MORE scientist chose islam rather than christianity

which side would you put your trust on, a group of 100 scientist or a ...

majority of scientists in the world are non muslims.

hujanhijau · Post time 12-3-2009 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-3-2009 15:34

majority of scientists in the world are non muslims.

yes, the majority of them are atheist. not christians

but between those scientist who finally chose a religion, most of them chose islam.

gunblade712 · Post time 12-3-2009 03:49 PM

i second what hujanhijau said..

Debmey · Post time 12-3-2009 05:13 PM

Didn't you say believe in majority? Since you claim that majority of scientists are atheists, then you shoudl be an atheist too according to your logic.

However, it is wrong for you also to claim that most scietists who chose religion are muslims. Most scientists in fact are Jews and Christians.
Muslims have the lowest education among people of all belief systems.

hujanhijau · Post time 12-3-2009 05:34 PM

clearly you didnt understand my post.
what i mean by majority is the majority between atheist scientist who finally chose a religion.

within that group, the majority of them chose islam

hujanhijau · Post time 12-3-2009 05:37 PM

again, within the group of atheist scientist who finally chose a religion.
not a scientist who already have a religion before he/she became a scientist.

gunblade712 · Post time 12-3-2009 06:09 PM

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-3-2009 17:13
However, it is wrong for you also to claim that most scietists whochose religion are muslims. Most scientists in fact are Jews andChristians.
Muslims have the lowest education among people of all belief systems.

and where did you get that fact? Your parents gave it to you?

Debmey · Post time 12-3-2009 06:17 PM

its true sir, literacy rates are lowest in muslim countries.
there are no innovation coming from the muslim world.
so how can majority of scientists be muslims?
on the contrary, many muslim scientists quit islam because they learned how to think better.
Here's an Arabic doctor who left islam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up3yuQDAWKQ

gunblade712 · Post time 12-3-2009 07:01 PM

again, where did you get THAT fact? from your grandparents?

and many muslim scientist quit Islam... that's what you say..

after that, you gave me ONLY ONE...????

Does "ONE" equal to "MANY" in your language, sir?

cheers

Debmey · Post time 12-3-2009 11:58 PM

What did muslim scientists invent in the last century? Islamic watch? islamic car?

gunblade712 · Post time 13-3-2009 12:52 PM

it seems debmey cannot answer my post #30..

proof that debmey only beat around the bush, debmey gave us wild assumption without ample proof...

cheers

Debmey · Post time 13-3-2009 12:54 PM

So what exactly do these muslim scientists invent?

Debmey · Post time 13-3-2009 12:55 PM

islamic watch ie with arabic charccters on the dial and alarm for prayer?

islamic car with compass to point to mecca and stops automaticallly during prayer time and play azan?

hujanhijau · Post time 13-3-2009 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-3-2009 18:17
its true sir, literacy rates are lowest in muslim countries.
there are no innovation coming from the muslim world.
so how can majority of scientists be muslims?
on the contrary, many muslim ...

when did i ever said the majority of scientist is muslim?

i told you twice already, what i meant by majority is within the group of athiest scientist who finally chose a religion or convert from one religion to another. not a scientist who already a muslim or a christian before becoming a scientist. not the total of all scientist now.

see the thread's topic? it says the different between converts

did you really didnt get the idea, or are you just trying to twist whatever i said?

Debmey · Post time 13-3-2009 02:39 PM

really? how do you know that? did you do a survey on atheist scientists?

hujanhijau · Post time 13-3-2009 02:56 PM

i just gave you a simple test.

SIMPLE not detailed test.

just like a survey, let say a survey at the mall to find out what the buyers want, you dont ask the whole people in that mall, you only ask some of them as sample.