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Post time 18-10-2006 11:56 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 18-10-2006 11:53 PM

it's look like either u're illiterate or u're not so smart...



I don't see any divine wisdom in Quran nor did you present any evidence for it.
who is illiterate or dumb here?
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Post time 18-10-2006 11:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 18-10-2006 11:56 PM



I don't see any divine wisdom in Quran nor did you present any evidence for it.
who is illiterate or dumb here?


YOU :D
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:04 AM | Show all posts
Where? Where are the evidence to your claims? Please show us.
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:08 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 12:04 AM
Where? Where are the evidence to your claims? Please show us.

Have u watch the documentary?? U keep asking where is the proof.. when we give u the proof, u neglect to analyze it.. what kind of arguer you are??
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:10 AM | Show all posts
huhuhuhuhu:hmm::hmm::hmm:

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Post time 19-10-2006 12:11 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by TAMAM at 19-10-2006 12:08 AM

Have u watch the documentary?? U keep asking where is the proof.. when we give u the proof, u neglect to analyze it.. what kind of arguer you are??


why don't you psot the specific one here in text and let us examine it closely shall we?
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:13 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 18-10-2006 11:45 PM
You mean mankind don't know about what sperm is until teh 17th century? How silly!

yeah.. they are your ancestors..
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:14 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by TAMAM at 19-10-2006 12:08 AM

Have u watch the documentary?? U keep asking where is the proof.. when we give u the proof, u neglect to analyze it.. what kind of arguer you are??


Debmey lives in some kind of a loop, dont you see.  LOL
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:14 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 12:11 AM


why don't you psot the specific one here in text and let us examine it closely shall we?

why don't u watch it all??
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:19 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:41 AM | Show all posts
Does man reckon he will be left uncontrolled [without purpose]? Was he not once a drop of ejected semen? (Qur'an, 75:36-37)

This verse shows that the Quran could not be divine. A human being gets only half his chromosomes from his father.
In other words, the sperm does not make a person. A sperm needs to fused with an egg from the female to be a full person.

Just one verse and I already proved that this Quran science is nothing but a hoax and the Quran could not be divine.

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Post time 19-10-2006 12:53 AM | Show all posts
The developing disciplines of genetics and molecular biology have scientifically validated the accuracy of this information given by the Qur'an. It is now understood that sex is determined by the sperm cells from the male, and that the female has no role in this process.


The Y chromosome carries characteristics of masculinity, while the X chromosome carries those of femininity. In the mother's egg, there is only the X chromosome, which determines female characteristics. In the semen from the father, there are sperms that include either X or Y chromosomes. Therefore, the sex of the baby depends on whether the sperm fertilising the egg contains an X or Y chromosome. In other words, as stated in the verse, the factor determining the sex of the baby is the semen, which comes from the father. This knowledge, which could not have been known at the time when the Qur'an was revealed, is evidence to the fact that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.


Chromosomes are the main elements in determining sex. Two of the 46 chromosomes that determine the structure of a human being are identified as the sex chromosomes. These two chromosomes are called "XY" in males, and "XX" in females, because the shapes of the chromosomes resemble these letters. The Y chromosome carries the genes that code for masculinity, while the X chromosome carries the genes that code for femininity.
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Post time 19-10-2006 12:59 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 12:41 AM
Does man reckon he will be left uncontrolled ? Was he not once a drop of ejected semen? (Qur'an, 75:36-37)

This verse shows that the Quran could not be divine. A human being gets only half his c ...

this is the problem of the person who blindly interprate Al quran like you.. In order to interprate Al Quran correctly someone needs to uunderstand the meaning of the Quran both  the superficial meaning and deep meaning.. you cannot easily take one part of the verse and just interprate it because all the verse in Al Quran related to each other..

To answer your question.. plese read again carefully the meaning of that verse.. Yes.. you are right.. a baby gets both chromosomes from mom and dad ( sperm and egg).. but look back at the verse.. is it stated there that human is created by Allah just by semen? mane ade.. ko nak cakap tak baca dulu betul-betul..
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Post time 19-10-2006 01:22 AM | Show all posts
The Quran clearly mentions that sperm make a human with no mention at all of the need for an egg from a  woman.
This is consistent with the view of the ancient world where embryology was not advanced.

Not only was this false science shown in 75:36-37, the same mistake was repeated again in verses 76:2, 32:7-8, 53:45-46.

The entire Quran is wrong on this very simple fact. So how can Quran possibly be divine?
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Post time 19-10-2006 01:43 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 01:22 AM
The Quran clearly mentions that sperm make a human with no mention at all of the need for an egg from a  woman.
This is consistent with the view of the ancient world where embryology was not advan ...


it did mentioned about eggs as fertiliser and sperm alone can't make human.
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Post time 19-10-2006 01:45 AM | Show all posts
where did it mention the egg in any of these verses?
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Post time 19-10-2006 01:54 AM | Show all posts
It was mentioned in detail after every verse by the writer, btw Quran is not entirely to explain everythings about the making of human. Don't just take women's eggs as an issue there's many more evidence to take count..i.e..In Surat az-Zumar 6, it is pointed out that man is created in the mother's womb in three distinct regions. Indeed, modern embryology has revealed that the baby's embryological development takes place in three distinct regions in the mother's womb.

Quran is the guidence, if everythings explained in so much detail without us to seek the truth or go extra miles...no scientist then, no reason for us to work hard in this world, there will be no wrong religions or bad peoples.......they will be only heaven as no one to be judged. So why are we here in this world?......

cheers

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Post time 19-10-2006 09:31 AM | Show all posts
It still does not mention the egg anywhere.

The Quran consistently repeated the old mistaken idea of human coming solely from the sperm as I have proven so.
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Post time 19-10-2006 09:34 AM | Show all posts
anyway.. where is the knowledge about sperm, egg and and creation of human in bible?? is there any detail about that in bible?? could u qoate it for us?? heyyy Mr smart Debmey, have u watch that documentary??  don't you feel shame by being an arguier who deny even to analyze others proof while u keep debating others thought?? shame on you.. where is your gut??
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Post time 19-10-2006 09:37 AM | Show all posts
What is the point of detail when the details are all wrong? Won't that prove that the Quran is a hoax?
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