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Post time 9-12-2004 08:47 PM | Show all posts
:hmm::hmm::hmm::gila::gila::gila::gantuk::gantuk::gantuk::gantuk::gantuk::kant:
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Post time 10-12-2004 10:17 AM | Show all posts

Maaf kalau tersinggung...

Pertama, jika suatu busines ingin maju, jangan main sentimen kaum.. haram untuk kaum lain konon. Realitinya, memang mereka tak sudi nak join jika ia adalah Malay company.. thats their mentaliti. Too bad huh!!

Kedua. I pun involved dalam MLM, in management and in networking for the last 15 yrs. Infiniti bonus tanpa over paid is a biggest "bull shit". I design marketing plan also, i know how to calculate each plan from A-Z. Kalau ada plan yang bila kita calculate kita tahu ia akan "over paid" tapi bila they run the bonus calculation it is not over paid, better becareful then. They may ask the computer guys to suck the money from upline when there is not enough to pay the bottom layers.
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Post time 10-12-2004 10:25 AM | Show all posts

alamak tertekan enter plak...

Ketiga, buka ke chairman syarikat ni adalah bekas chairman Propolis Gold yang mewar-warkan kehebatan produk mereka datang dari UK, tapi bila diserbu rupa2nya dibotolkan dikilang haram yang tidak memiliki GMP status dan produk tu pun belum mendapat MAL number dari ministry.???

Keempat, nak promote ke orang melayu tapi highlight too much on US product is not so smart, every Muslim in the world has bad feelings about US right now. Kalau nak promote kepada bangsa lain tu ok lah jugak.

Kelima, jika tanpa maintenance masih boleh dapat bonus, tak ada yang nak maintain tak ada sales dan kalau bagi 100% bonus pun tak bererti sebab 100% x zero sale = zero income.

Sekali lagi..Maaf kalau tersinggung. Tapi kalau u all genuine, sila bahaskan di sini.
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Post time 10-12-2004 10:29 AM | Show all posts
Meniaga Larut Malam
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Post time 11-12-2004 07:07 AM | Show all posts
Emm ... So tak bagus lah ya? (betul nak tau ni)
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Post time 11-12-2004 11:23 AM | Show all posts
anis710.....:tq:

Thanks for the information.... aku memang respect habis dengan info yang ko berikan tu.... aku sebenarnya memang dah bercita-cita nak join team ni. Rexall Showcase.... aku survey sana, survey sini.. Tapi tak jumpa... Finally aku jumpa kat enterprenuer la pulak... Tahniah!!!...

Cuma satu je la... aku try search kat google nama chairman propolis gold ni.. tak pulak aku nampak nama dorang tu.. yang aku nama Datuk Pahamin Rejab je... are u sure about that?...
:stp:
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Post time 13-12-2004 12:40 PM | Show all posts

Alamak Sorry semua.. wrong Info

Pembetulan:

I was told that Ex Chairman Propolis Gold are now in ForLife.. not Rexall.
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Post time 13-12-2004 04:06 PM | Show all posts
nak tambah income? Boleh contact I.. I ada jual perfume dan make up (those girls boleh la jual) So u all boleh beli dr liz dan jual semula.

Mcm perfume tu lelaki pun leh buat.
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Post time 14-12-2004 02:00 PM | Show all posts

A'ahh aku ingat ada ranking MLM co tadi

Semua orang claim dia top 5 lah top 10 lah... Top ni ada banyak top.. kalau Top base on sales aku tahu lah.. tapi meleleha ni Top dari segi apa ekkkk??
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Post time 14-12-2004 02:38 PM | Show all posts

Cian member kita ni tak ada orang nak jawab...

Bior aku jawab part by part... panjang citer ni. so kena lihat satu persatu, tak boleh buat macam kawan u, semua dia kira haram. Contohnya Macam air kelapa, tak haram, proses sikit jadi cuka = tak haram, proses lagi jadi tuak = haram, bunyinya sama je so kalau nak di hukumkan haram semua maka kenalah kita tebang semua pokok kelapa di malaysia ni. Ok kita lihat satu persatu bezanya

Peniagaan Tradisional
Mark up = 5-10 times of cost. Harga lebih mahal jika ianya trend/teknologi baru.
Marketing concept: Heavy advertising budget, superstar role model, promotion.
Profit Distribution: Sole Agent, Distributor, Dealer / franchise holder with not less then 30% margin each.
Note: During sales, they can put 70% off and still can make money!!
Common product type: Fast moving, trendy, hi-tech
Eg: Sony, Nokia, Parkson, Guardian, KFC

Direct Sales Single Level
Mark up = 5-6 times of cost.
Marketing concept: Heavy Promotion budget among members, superstar role model.etc
Profit Distribution: Principal company, franchise holder, butique owner, dealers(company's profit margin is highest)
Type of product: Unique, lower cost, trendy
Eg: Avon

Multi Level Marketing
Mark up = 5-6 times of cost.
Marketing concept: Heavy Training Budget, Promotion to members, News letters, Activities
Profit Distribution: Company, Stokist, Dealers
Type of product: High quality, proven efecacy, unique
Eg: Amway, Elken, Shaklee, CNI, DXN etc

Binary System
Mark up = 10-20 times of cost.
Marketing concept: Heavy Training Budget, Promotion to members, News letters, Activities, focus only on plan not product.
Profit Distribution: Company, Stokist, Dealers
Common Product Type: Unique low cost but can create a lot of story to sell expensive. Normally they wont sell more the 3 product. (To apply for Direct selling licence a company need to have at least 3 product)
Eg: Ultimate Way, Castle Trillion, iinkage, Gold Quest

Pyramid System
Mark up = nothing to mark up.. no product
Marketing concept: They wont do training sebab takut kena tangkap, normally through internet.
Profit Distribution: Company, dealers
Common Product Type: No product, just cash investment
Eg: Banyak di internet buka email mesti ada satu sesat dalam tu.
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Post time 14-12-2004 04:45 PM | Show all posts
Aku rasa macam posting nih menipu..!!
Aku rasa tertipu..!! nf:
Jadi jangan masuk MLM yg dia join..
Sure tipu jugak..!!


MIahahahahahahharr..!! Padan muka..!!
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Post time 14-12-2004 05:40 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 16-12-2004 01:19 AM | Show all posts

>>[ MLM & Direct Selling = Bosan & kuno!!!]<<

zaman lo ni mana ada orang wat bisnes mlm@direct selling. zaman it beb!!
meh masuk e-niaga, duduk depan pc, pastu duit masuk..

http://www.e-niaga.cjb.net   
http://www.e-dagang.cjb.net  
http://www.geocities.com/projekeniaga/help2uatm_fariezul.html

bukak je.. maleh aku citer panjang2
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Post time 16-12-2004 01:37 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by fariezul at 16-12-2004 01:19:
zaman lo ni mana ada orang wat bisnes mlm@direct selling. zaman it beb!!
meh masuk e-niaga, duduk depan pc, pastu duit masuk..

http://www.e-niaga.cjb.net   
[url]http://www.e-dagan ...


Assalamualaikum.....wahai adikku Fariezul yang budiman....:bgrin::bgrin::bgrin: abad ke 21 nilah sebenornye zaman orang wat bisnes mlm... cube-cubelah adikku bawak membaca buku Busines School, Rich Dad Poor Dad, Prosumer Power, Copycat Marketing dan seangkatan dengannya.... jangan buat malu orang Melayu....ye dik....:bgrin::bgrin::bgrin: dalam dunia ni wahai adikku.... mana ada serba serbinya mudah dan senang..... nak lahir ke dunia pun..... perlukan wang dan kepayahan......
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Post time 16-12-2004 09:05 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by fariezul at 2004-12-16 01:19 AM:
zaman lo ni mana ada orang wat bisnes mlm@direct selling. zaman it beb!!
meh masuk e-niaga, duduk depan pc, pastu duit masuk..

http://www.e-niaga.cjb.net   
http://www.e-dagan ...



terbukti benda yg you promote ni skim cepat kaya walaupun you cuba nafikan. dah ada skim cepat kaya online pulak dah.....Ni boleh lapor terus kpd Kementerian Perdagangan Dlm Negeri & Hal Ehwal Pengguna.

sila check definisi skim cepat kaya kat link Kementerian Perdagangan Dlm Negeri:
[url]http://www.kpdnhq.gov.my/homepage/kempen/skcpiramid2.html






CONTOH BAGAIMANA SKIM CEPAT KAYA BEROPERASI


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Post time 16-12-2004 12:13 PM | Show all posts
Letih je berforum dengan manusia kurang ilmu ni.
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Post time 16-12-2004 11:27 PM | Show all posts
hmmm to me... kalau suker or not nak buat MLM nih terpulang pada individu.. to me i'm not interested. sebab nak kena bug friends ( as a start ) to convince them about the product... umm lama2 nanti u'll loose your friend 1 by 1 without u realising it. but if u succeed, keep it up!
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Post time 17-12-2004 11:34 AM | Show all posts

Sindbad

Ada betulnya dengan apa yang u kata tu.

Sebelum buat MLM u ada ramai "kawan", bila u buat MLM ramai kawan yang lari, menjauhkan diri. Ini perkara biasa dalam MLM.

Satu perkara yang i suka tentang MLM, ni dalam ramai2 kawan, kalau u buat MLM dengan cara yang betul, u akan realize siapa kawan sejati dan siapa kawan yang sekadar kawan masa senang. U juga akan tahu siapa 'kawan' yang sebenarnya tidak mahu melihat u lebih maju daripada dia, thats the beauty of MLM.

Tapi bila kita buat MLM dengan approach yang salah, i jamin mereka ni akan kehilangan ramai kawan. Cth approach yg salah.

1) Buat appointment terlalu lewat, sudahnya sharing habis sampai jam 1pagi, esok nak kerja.
2) Ajak kawan datang meeting, janji habis jam 10 malam tapi jam 12 masih di stuck di kedai mamak
3) Gelojoh nak share product, nak close sales walaupun it is not the right moment. Semata-mata kerana nak kejar point nak naik pangkat.
4) Membebel tentang peluang, impian, kaya, lepas tu tak sensitif dengan kawan, kutuk pulak cara dia earn income sekarang ni, sedangkan diri sendiri pun belum ada apa2.
5) Masa nak sponsor janji macam2, bila dah sigh up dah beli barang, batang hidung pun tak nampak.
6) Bila jumpa, tak ada cerita lain, tak habis2 pasal MLM dia, kalau cerita benda lain seolah2 macam buang masa.
7) Kawan boleh nampak kita lihat mereka macam golongan yang rugi..looser. Maklumlah kita ni dah kena bakar dalam kem motivasi syarikat MLM.
8) Kawan yang buka downline tak penting bagi kita, sebab tak contribute SV/PV, so masa hari raya pun utamakan rumah downline dulu, bak kata orang kalau ada SV/PV ko lah kawan aku.

Ishhh banyak lagi...
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Post time 17-12-2004 01:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anis710 at 17-12-2004 11:34 AM:
Ada betulnya dengan apa yang u kata tu.

Sebelum buat MLM u ada ramai "kawan", bila u buat MLM ramai kawan yang lari, menjauhkan diri. Ini perkara biasa dalam MLM.

Satu perkara yang  ...


:ah: aku setuju ngan apa yang ko kata tu..
MLM ni sebenarnya manis kalau kena gayanya..jangan terlalu ghairah nak promote product, kena `berlembut` dalam menaja jangan mendesak kerana desakan membuatkan orang benci ngan MLM.

walau apapun aku tetap suka buat MLM... dengan cara aku sendiri.
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Post time 17-12-2004 02:56 PM | Show all posts

DARSITA...

I dont know about the product, sebab i belum pernah try produk dia, and tak pernah nampak pun diperkatakan tentang produknya disini.

I just comment on their marketing strategy. Thats all, good or not terpulang pada diri masing2 menilainya. I cuma forward beberapa point penting for any of u to think before deciding.

Point is, personally i dont go for company who like to play on sentimen, Infiniti bonus, no maintainance bonus. A lot of hidden agenda. May be i m wrong, just matter of concern.

Note: If chinese leader is allowed, the risk for "problem plan" is, the leaders will easily pointed unbalance in calculation, not fully paid calculation, tricky calculation..etc etc, they can really calculate in details.
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