|
|
[Dunia]
Sinai Plane Crash: UPDATE - Black Boxes Point To Bomb On Board #317
[Copy link]
|
|
|
punca Isreal aka US tembak flight Russia
1. russia serang ISIS mengakibatkan kerugiaan aset isreal & US
2. russia & china bersetuju utk tidak menggunakan matawang USD dlm perdagangan 2 hala antara mereka
3. serangan russia mengakibatkan ISIS tidak dpt menjana pendapatan jualan minyak
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
lu nie selayaknya dok kat ceruk dapur 
“It’s too early to make any conclusions. The destruction [of the plane] happened in the air and the fragments scattered over a large area (around 20 square kilometers),” Sorochenko said. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
bukan russia yg tembak....... 
tu pejuang ukraine yg tak nak bergabung russia 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
WATCH: Chilling video that could prove ISIS DID shoot down Russian jet, killing 224 people
ISLAMIC STATE have released a chilling video, which may be proof that the terror group did shoot down the Russian plane causing it to crash and kill all 224 people on board.
By REBECCA PERRING
PUBLISHED: 10:29, Sun, Nov 1, 2015 | UPDATED: 11:58, Sun, Nov 1, 2015
The barbaric terrorists last night claimed to have downed the Airbus A-321 jet in revenge for Russian air strikes in Syria - but how they could have carried out the deadly act remains a mystery.
However dramatic footage has now emerged online, which purports to show the final moments of the doomed airliner as it falls through the air, before it appears to explode and engulfs into a ball of smoke and flames.
Egypt’s North Sinai is home to a two-year-old Islamist insurgency and militants who support Islamic State have killed hundreds of Egyptian soldiers and police in recent months.
But officials in Cairo and Moscow were quick to quash any possible link to terrorism in the tragedy, which was one of the deadliest plane crashes in the past decade.
And the co-pilot allegedly complained to his family that the aircraft's condition "left much to be desired" shortly before the doomed flight took off.
The video purports to show the jet's final moments
Early reports said it split into two and that suggests a catastrophic failure, not a mechanical failure, but perhaps an explosion on board
Professor Michael Clarke
The aircraft, which was was flying from the Egyptian resort of Sharm El-Sheikh destined for the Russian city of St Petersburg, was said to have split in half mid-air scattering debris and bodies over a wide area in remote Sinai, Egypt.
Burnt corpses were found 3.1 miles away from the crashed aircraft, and this morning search and rescue teams recovered the body of a three-year-old girl some five miles from the crash scene.
So far, only 163 bodies of 214 Russian passengers and three Ukrainians, have been recovered, which has resulted in search and rescue teams expanding their search perimeter to nine miles.
It comes as officials said the jet, operated by Russian airline Kogalymavia, did not lodge an SOS call before its quick descent.
Professor Michael Clarke, Director General of the Royal United Services Institute, said the jet may have been destroyed by a bomb on the aircraft.
People lay flowers and toys at an entrance of Pulkovo airport
He said: "This aircraft was 200km north of its take-off zone, that means it was flying at around 31,000 feet. Terrorists, as far as we know, don’t have equipment to take down an aircraft at that height.
"Early reports said it split into two and that suggests a catastrophic failure, not a mechanical failure, but perhaps an explosion on board.
"So I would be much more inclined to think, if we have to guess at this stage, it is much more likely to have been a bomb on board than a missile fired from the ground.
"And there’s no sign of a distress call, so the idea that the aircraft was undergoing an mechanical problem, or an engine problem, or a fire, or something like that, you would expect that there would be some sort of distress call beforehand."
Last month Moscow launched a bombing campaign against the twisted terror group, which controls vast swathes of Syria and has forced thousands of people to flee the country.
Vladimir Putin's bid to wipe out ISIS has been so successful that almost a million Syrians are elected to return to their homeland.
Sherif Ismail, right, looks at the remains of a crashed passenger jet in Hassana
Remains of the downed plane at the crash site
The wreckage of a crashed A321 Russian airliner
Klik link utk video http://www.express.co.uk/news/wo ... ror-explosion-video
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Acong replied at 2-11-2015 01:51 AM
HAARP boleh cetuskan gempa bumi
fukushima kena bom nuklear US atau Isreal dgn berselindung ...
Tak semua orang bodoh untuk percaya segala benda di internet. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Acong replied at 2-11-2015 01:45 AM
lu nie selayaknya dok kat ceruk dapur
kapal tu meletup di udara......... bahalol ap ...
Kau yang bodoh. Destruction tak semestinya meletup. Sebab itu pihak russia pun di awal ayat dahncaksp its too early untuk buat konklusi sebab mereka pun tak sebodoh pemganut ugama konspirasi teori. Mereka boleh dapat tahu punca in due time bila analyze wreckage dan kotak hitam, semua pun dah jumpa |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
skru kat bodi pesawat tercabut kot sis? tu yg putus dua tuh...
#komencerukdapur
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
missyqaldina replied at 1-11-2015 04:58 PM
bile kita tuduh dikatakan fitnah..
bile dorang wt mcm2 dikatakan kita di dpt balasan cash..
lant ...
Mcm yg satu porumer tu ckplah...dia dh kerja lama kat UN tapi tk pernah tgk penjilat2 yahudi segigih penjilat yahudi di CI ni...walaupun berkerak...kakak senyum sinis jah |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Masyarakat dunia lbh bersimpati thadap mh17 ni lg drpd tragedi pesawat russia ni,reaction cukup berbeza,headlines news pun xdelah sehavoc mase mh17 dulu, maybe ye la yg mh17 dulu ramai mangsa dr 1st world country dr dutch,german,australia segale tp yg kali ni mangse pelancong2 rusia yg cheapskates dr low class country ,so masyarakat dunia just beranggapan this just another 3rd world tragedies setaraf kisah bot bangladesh karam, tragedi keracunan todi india,kisah kemalangan lombong arang batu china ataupun kisah kucing kene langgar kereta je,begitulah nilai nyawa rakyat russia |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by hzln at 2-11-2015 07:46 AM
Terrorists, non-state actors had no capacity to down Russian plane, security & aviation experts say
While the investigation into the causes of the Russian passenger jet crash over the Sinai Peninsula continues, civil aviation and security experts agree that theories that the plane was downed by a militant group can be ruled out, despite terrorists making such claims.
All 224 people on board the Kolavia airline’s flight from resort area Sharm El-Sheikh to Russia’s St. Petersburg died after the aircraft crashed in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula on Saturday. Experts are still decoding the flight recorders, and the Russian Air Transport Agency has said that there is no point in hypothesizing about the cause of the crash until there is reliable data on the circumstances.
While Islamic State jihadist group allegedly claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it downed the Airbus A321 as retaliation for Russia’s airstrikes against terrorist targets in Syria, aviation and security experts believe it to be highly unlikely.
“As far as it’s known, Islamic State and its affiliate groups don’t have the capability to bring down aircraft flying at the height that this aircraft reportedly was, which is something around 10,000 meters,” security analyst and former UK counter-terrorism officer Charles Shoebridge told RT.
“That doesn't mean to say though that at least theoretically they couldn't bring the plane down by other means, for example by sabotage at the departing airport or a bomb on board,” he added, but pointed out that “mechanical failure of some sort is the most likely cause, as with most air accidents.”
As to why the terrorists would make such claims, Shoebridge said that it “increases their propaganda, and it also can be seen as punishment – as they would like to call it – for Russian involvement against Islamic State in Syria, so therefore one can expect them to take advantage of [an] opportunity like this regardless whether they are responsible or not.”
Egypt’s former minister of civil aviation, Wail al-Madawi, agrees that militant groups in Sinai do not possess the capabilities to bring down a commercial aircraft flying that high. “Only a state can have such resources,” he told RT.
RT onsidering the high altitude the plane gained 20 minutes into the flight, is it possible to be speculating about it having been taken down by a missile?
Wail al-Madawi: No, it is out of the question. I am a former air force officer, and I have the expert knowledge that taking down a plane flying so high requires the kind of capacities only a state can have.
It requires some very significant resources: One would need search radars, radars to locate the plane, radars to control the fire. Only a state can have such resources, no militant group like that can.
RT:So you’re saying that the militant groups operating on the Sinai Peninsula do not have the military capacities required to take down aircraft at such an altitude – is that correct?
WM: Yes. They certainly don’t. Only the state has such capacities. Terrorist groups cannot have such capacities by definition. This kind of mission requires three types of radars. It also requires having missiles capable of gaining such altitude. And only a state can have all these capacities. Therefore, for militants, it’s completely impossible.
RT f the airline report saying that there was no human error involved such as a crew mistake, were to be true, and given the knowledge that the plane broke into two halves – what would be the possible reason for this kind of catastrophe?
WM: It is very difficult to identify what caused the catastrophe until the flight recorders have been decoded. They would capture everything the pilots talked about including any technical issues. Mostly probably, there was a technical malfunction which led to the crash. All these details will be investigated through the decoding of the black box data. I believe the results will be published soon.
RT:As it has been confirmed that the plane broke into two halves, are there any probable causes for this kind of break-up? Could it have had something to do with the wind speed, aircraft speed, or the aircraft positioning, for instance?
WM: I think it’s impossible to define how exactly the ground impact occurred. It all depends on the kind of terrain at the impact site. For instance, if an aircraft were to hit some ridge on the ground, this could cause the plane to break into halves. So it all depends on the terrain.
The main thing, however, is to establish why the plane started to lose altitude when it was flying so high. There is a database of air crashes with proven causes of the crash. Some were due to technical malfunction, some to human error, some even to the psychological state of the crew. So that means there are a lot of possibilities to study.
I would like to offer my sincere condolences to the families of the deceased Russian citizens. Russia is a friendly nation to Egypt. Russia has provided support to Egypt over a long period of time. At the same time, I would like to confirm the high level of professional expertise of our civil aviation agencies. They are up to the task of investigating emergencies of this kind, and they also welcome observers from the Russian agencies joining the investigation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by hzln at 2-11-2015 10:10 AM
so dgn kata ini BUKAN keja non-state terrorist ie isis dan kuncu2, maka bulih disimpulkan yg depa sebenarnya nak kata, jika ada elemen foul play dlm kejadian pesawat putus dua nih, ini keja state terrorist (read:israel/amareka) la kan sis? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
ha ah........ betul tu........ skru tercabut masa terbang........
@Changa kapal tu putus dua kat langit
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
senjata ISIS cuma boleh tembak sasaran 2000 kaki.......
utk 30000 kaki.... u need something like patriot missiles 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#komenbatucaves
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
takleh, #komenbatucaves kena ada keyword(s) nih...www3, amareka, cia, new world order, zionis, mossad, "leaked documents" dan yg sewaktu dengannya...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
well said !! 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
biasa la sis..
mls nak berdebat kalau da penjilat yahudi tuuu...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
dah knape zionists pon hntr jgk wakil ke sane?apekah? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
Post time 2-11-2015 01:43 AM
Author
