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Author: Anak_Nogori

[Jenayah] Hina Islam dijel seumur hidup

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Post time 19-7-2013 02:49 PM | Show all posts
Back to basic lah,zaman Nabi dulu ade ke Baginda hukum balik bangsa yg menghina Islam? Nabi x marah,lagi Baginda berbuat baik dengan mereka. Dengan cara ni je kita dapat sebarkan agama kita. Ini tak,sikit2 hukum menghukum,amboiiii!. Dulu nabi siap kena baling najis ok,Baginda x marah pun. Ko tengok hasilnya,seluruh madinah & mekah dapat diIslamkan!
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Post time 19-7-2013 03:18 PM | Show all posts
Lejen posted on 19-7-2013 02:32 PM
Hadith yang mana? Abu Bakar pukul hamba ka atau hadith lain?

yang pasal wanita tu
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Post time 19-7-2013 03:40 PM | Show all posts
the_killer posted on 19-7-2013 03:18 PM
yang pasal wanita tu

Oh, kalau pasal wanita dan slavery ni ada banyakkk hadith tentang ni.. kat bawah ni contohnya:

Hadith Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 137:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection."
Yang ni pasal kalau hang kira dilarang la nak buat coitus interruptus dengan hamba wanita hang.

Mari kita kaji pulak hadith kat bawah ni.

Hadith Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4458:
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:

A slave-girl belonging to the house of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) committed fornication. He (the Prophet) said: Rush up, Ali, and inflict the prescribed punishment on her. I then hurried up, and saw that blood was flowing from her, and did not stop. So I came to him and he said: Have you finished inflicting (punishment on her)? I said: I went to her while her blood was flowing. He said: Leave her alone till her bleeding stops; then inflict the prescribed punishment on her. And inflict the prescribed punishment on those whom your right hands possess (i.e. slaves).
Diceritakan bahwa Nabi suruh Ali hukum hamba wanita ni sebab forcination, dan ada darah pulak mengalir dan tak berhenti. Nabi tanya Ali sudah ka hang selesai hukum hamba wanita tu, Ali kata dia tengok darah hamba wanita tu masih mengalir, pastu Nabi pulak kata: biar la hamba wanita tu sampai darah dia berhenti mengalir, pastu hang sambung la hukuman tu..

Jadi begitula cerita hadith sempena bulan Ramadhan ni..



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Post time 19-7-2013 04:05 PM | Show all posts
Lejen posted on 19-7-2013 03:40 PM
Oh, kalau pasal wanita dan slavery ni ada banyakkk hadith tentang ni.. kat bawah ni contohnya:

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aku tanya matan dan sanatnya siapa? paham tak?
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Post time 19-7-2013 04:14 PM | Show all posts
the_killer posted on 19-7-2013 04:05 PM
aku tanya matan dan sanatnya siapa? paham tak?
The sanad and matn are the primary elements of a hadith. The sanad is the information provided regarding the route by which the matn has been reached. It is so named due to the reliance of the hadith specialists upon it in determining the authenticity or weakness of a hadith. The term sanad is synonymous with the similar term isnad. The matn is the actual wording of the hadith by which its meaning is established, or stated differently, the objective at which the sanad arrives at, consisting of speech
Jadi apa persoalan hang? nak check kebenaran hadith memang la kena rujuk sanad dan matannya.

Kira nak kata Muslim dan Bukhari ni tak boleh pakai ka?
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Post time 19-7-2013 04:28 PM | Show all posts
Lejen posted on 19-7-2013 04:14 PM
Jadi apa persoalan hang? nak check kebenaran hadith memang la kena rujuk sanad dan matannya.

Ki ...



tak paham juga?..takpala..
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 Author| Post time 19-7-2013 05:11 PM | Show all posts
adi87 posted on 19-7-2013 02:49 PM
Back to basic lah,zaman Nabi dulu ade ke Baginda hukum balik bangsa yg menghina Islam? Nabi x marah, ...

Kita tak sehebat Nabi dik oii...tak caya..ni pakcik bagi satu contoh ja..Nik Aziz tu dikatakan ulamak tok guru tersohor diseentero Malaya...bila bergelar ulamak...dia pewaris nabi..patutnya dia ikut cara Nabi...bersabar...pemaaf...tapi dia tak plak ikut cara nabi....nak berdamai dgn UMNO yg sesama islam tu pun susah..siap sokong lagi solat hajat kasi KO BN....agaknya sampai kiamat pun dia takkan maafkan UMNO..macam lah UMNO tu pernah liwat dia..atau UMNO bunuh bini dan anak dia.
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Post time 20-7-2013 07:23 AM | Show all posts
geng_tx posted on 17-7-2013 10:58 AM
Islam kata tutup aurat..

Sekali dia tak tutup.

1st lady pun tak tutup aurat macamana nak gubal undang2 tutup aurat.......... kepimpinan melalui teladan kekdahnya
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Post time 20-7-2013 07:48 AM | Show all posts
buat ja undang2 hina agama kita tengok puak mana yg memenuhkan penjara makan free seumur hidup... berceramah lah ko dalam penjara dgn kaum2 yg sekepala...

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 Author| Post time 20-7-2013 11:04 AM | Show all posts
Decaffeinated posted on 20-7-2013 07:48 AM
buat ja undang2 hina agama kita tengok puak mana yg memenuhkan penjara makan free seumur hidup... be ...

undang2 tu kan dah ada...ke nak lebih spesifik..
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Post time 20-7-2013 11:45 AM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 19-7-2013 05:11 PM
Kita tak sehebat Nabi dik oii...tak caya..ni pakcik bagi satu contoh ja..Nik Aziz tu dikatakan ula ...

Ikut suka hati ko lah pakcik. Selamat menyambut Ramadahan. (Btw aku x baca pun pakcik komen ape,sbb aku malas nak layan apa yg pakcik nak tulis)
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 Author| Post time 20-7-2013 11:51 AM | Show all posts
adi87 posted on 20-7-2013 11:45 AM
Ikut suka hati ko lah pakcik. Selamat menyambut Ramadahan. (Btw aku x baca pun pakcik komen ape,sb ...

itulah...bila diberikan satu hakikat...memang pahit utk ditelan kan kan kan...tak palah..tak nak baca..takkan pakcik nak letak parang kat leher plak paksa edi baca gak..

Kita manusia yg tak sunyi dari kesilapan dik oii....malah..kesabaran pun ada hadnya..Nik Aziz yg bergelar pewaris nabi tu pun tak boleh bersabar..apa lagi kita2 ni dik oooi...
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Post time 20-7-2013 11:53 AM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 20-7-2013 11:51 AM
itulah...bila diberikan satu hakikat...memang pahit utk ditelan kan kan kan...tak palah..tak nak b ...

ape2lah pakcik. Aku tetap malas baca
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 Author| Post time 20-7-2013 11:55 AM | Show all posts
adi87 posted on 20-7-2013 11:53 AM
ape2lah pakcik. Aku tetap malas baca

habis edi main qoute jelah yeee...
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Post time 21-7-2013 12:07 PM | Show all posts
kakikuDibibirmu posted on 17-7-2013 08:00 PM
yeayyyyy, anya dah ada balik

wah, selamat kembali berforum lah kepade beliau.
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Post time 21-7-2013 12:26 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Setuju, kt msti hidup saling mghormati agama masing2. Kt islam blh hormat agama mereka walaupun tahu di akhrat sok mereka akan jd spt kayu api.. Kt ttp hormat, knp mrk x blh nak hormat agama kt?

Cina laki bini tu ptt kene yg sama gak. Biadap...
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Post time 21-7-2013 12:33 PM | Show all posts
kakikuDibibirmu posted on 17-7-2013 08:00 PM
yeayyyyy, anya dah ada balik

wah, selamat kembali berforum lah kepade beliau.
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Post time 21-7-2013 02:08 PM | Show all posts
Bukanlah sesuatu yang pelik pada kutbah jumaat, tukang kutbah tanpa segan silu menghina agama serta bangsa orang lain. Dengan menggunakan pembesar suara yang kuat, kutbah itu mampu didengari oleh orang-orang di luar kawasan masjid.

Jadi bolehkan kita hukum penjara seumur hidup terus tua kutuk tukang kutbah itu? Kenalah adil kan?
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 Author| Post time 21-7-2013 02:09 PM | Show all posts
Neraka Bulan posted on 21-7-2013 02:08 PM
Bukanlah sesuatu yang pelik pada kutbah jumaat, tukang kutbah tanpa segan silu menghina agama serta  ...

boleh kasi contoh kutbah menghina agama lain tu tak?.
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Post time 21-7-2013 02:14 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 21-7-2013 02:09 PM
boleh kasi contoh kutbah menghina agama lain tu tak?.

Contoh tangible itu tiadalah kerana aku tidak rakam kutbah itu.

Dulu semasa  aku masih kecil serta masih isle dan bersolat jemaah di kawasan aku, Taman Minang Cheras...tua kutuk tukang kutbah itu secara terang-terangan menghina Kristian dan Yahudi tanpa segan silu. Dia langsung tidak pedulikan sensitiviti masyarakat di situ yang rata-ratanya seimbang antara non Muslim dan Muslim.

Celakalah kepada tua kutuk tukang kutbah yang racist dan hina itu!!

Last edited by Neraka Bulan on 21-7-2013 02:15 PM

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