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Sperms are produced in chest not testicle ! According to Quran....
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prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 11:10 PM 
I repeat once again.I just want to disprove yourAllah which is islamic God.Not other Gods in other ...
Obviously this serpent is trying to divert your attention by inviting you to debate on existence of God and theory of evolution because he has embarrassed and ridiculed himself when he stated from the very beginning of his post that seminal gland is responsible for male reproduction and his famous quote semen=sperm.
Perhaps we should castrate all muslim males and only leave behind the seminal gland for them since to them it is sufficient just to keep the seminal gland.....as someone in medical profession, i have no problem performing it free for them.
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Quote the serpent Sam XXXX: "things will be different in 30 yrs time. Hope you are alive to watch and curse as the Islamic revival is definately underway. Come to think of it , Germany , France , the UK will have it political landscape changed in the near future."
My answer: Really ?? lets see..... Germany(most muslim immigrants from Turkey as cheap source of labour) , France(most of them from nothern Africa, former French colony like Algeria) , the UK(most of them from former British colonies like Pakistan and Bangladesh...). What do they all have in common ??
1. Most of these muslim immigrants fled their home countries in the first place due to suppressive Islamic regimes with human right violation, rampant corruption, war torn, famine.....
2. Upon settling down in their adopted countries, most of them failed to assimilate themselves into local society like other immigrants of other faith. In UK, they even demand their own shariah court for their cvil cases.....
3. They all breed like rabbit....no, multiply like bacteria. Birth rate for the indigenous Europeans are very low which average less than 2% and in some european countries even recorded minus growth. But things are so different with muslim immigrants and their birth rate is double in digit and grow exponentially.Some hospitals in in european countries even has the highest number of newborns with Mohammad as their name.
But rest assure, worry not. Why ? Because most European countries have come to their senses that their past immigration law is too lenient, especially towards muslim immigrants because they failed to assimilate into local society and some muslims majority area in Europe even become the breeding ground of Islamic terrorist.
Recent election result in European countries we can see a tendency shift to right wing politicians as the local are starting to acknowledge the seriousness of muslim immgrants matter.
On top of that, with freedom of press and media in European countries, we can be sured that most younger generations of muslim immgrants will be exposed to the true face of Islam, especially on websites lke ex-muslim.com, FFI and etc....in fact tide of transgression towards their own islamic faith by these younger generations of muslim immigrants can easily be spotted on various ex muslms websites ! 
Quote the sidekick DzurqaXXXX : "That's why u cud not differentiate between balls n brain, gentiles n genitals. Pity Biology - study of living organism, not jz orgasm. "
Another madrasah trained imbecile who continuously providing us with non-stop and unparralleled moronic entertainment. Thank you again.......gentiles and genitals, orgasm ???? 
p/s : Avatar of samXXXX - DNA plotting, guess he doesn't even know the usage of it.
Avatar of Cuai - a ear phone wearing skull, if you are "cuai", one probably end up like that.
Avatar of Dzurqarnain - What can we say, seems like he truly adores the typical madrasah trained Osama cum islamic
terrorist kind of looks .
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wkk5159 posted on 31-1-2013 07:57 AM
Obviously this serpent is trying to divert your attention by inviting you to debate on existence o ...
Ha ha , look at this crazed christian trying to argue on a non existent issue. Ooi tambi , for your information we muslims are still waiting for your evidence of your claimed error in Quran86:4-7. What you and your buddy 'prototaip' given so far are merely assertions. Assertions are just your uneducated opinion. Where is yoru proof? 'Prototaip' has ran away with his tail between his legs.
Obviously this serpent is trying to divert your attention by inviting you to debate on existence of God and theory of evolution because he has embarrassed and ridiculed himself when he stated from the very beginning of his post that seminal gland is responsible for male reproduction and his famous quote semen=sperm.
Perhaps we should castrate all muslim males and only leave behind the seminal gland for them since to them it is sufficient just to keep the seminal gland.....as someone in medical profession, i have no problem performing it free for them.
You die die claim that sperm = semen. Ha ha , if this is the the standard of arguments of christians with regards to Islam , no wonder we see christians converting to Islam in the droves.
Ha ha , you still die die claim that you are in the medical profession? You mean you are a 'medical professional' who die die (mis)understand that sperm = semen? You have no substantial argument. You are just here frothing in your rmouth and trying to bite anything that moves .... so sad ....
We are still waiting for your proof against Quran86:4-7. Assertions don't count , its just your fantasy.
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wkk5159 posted on 31-1-2013 08:56 AM
Quote the serpent Sam XXXX: "things will be different in 30 yrs time. Hope you are alive to watch an ...
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wkk5159 posted on 31-1-2013 08:56 AM
Quote the serpent Sam XXXX: "things will be different in 30 yrs time. Hope you are alive to watch an ...
Ha ha , again lots of writing but zero substance. The point here is that these countries will have a major muslim population in the near future. Therefore the political landscape wil be changed.
Quote the serpent Sam XXXX: "things will be different in 30 yrs time. Hope you are alive to watch and curse as the Islamic revival is definately underway. Come to think of it , Germany , France , the UK will have it political landscape changed in the near future."
My answer: Really ?? lets see..... Germany(most muslim immigrants from Turkey as cheap source of labour) , France(most of them from nothern Africa, former French colony like Algeria) , the UK(most of them from former British colonies like Pakistan and Bangladesh...). What do they all have in common ??
1. Most of these muslim immigrants fled their home countries in the first place due to suppressive Islamic regimes with human right violation, rampant corruption, war torn, famine.....
2. Upon settling down in their adopted countries, most of them failed to assimilate themselves into local society like other immigrants of other faith. In UK, they even demand their own shariah court for their cvil cases.....
3. They all breed like rabbit....no, multiply like bacteria. Birth rate for the indigenous Europeans are very low which average less than 2% and in some european countries even recorded minus growth. But things are so different with muslim immigrants and their birth rate is double in digit and grow exponentially.Some hospitals in in european countries even has the highest number of newborns with Mohammad as their name.
But rest assure, worry not. Why ? Because most European countries have come to their senses that their past immigration law is too lenient, especially towards muslim immigrants because they failed to assimilate into local society and some muslims majority area in Europe even become the breeding ground of Islamic terrorist.
Recent election result in European countries we can see a tendency shift to right wing politicians as the local are starting to acknowledge the seriousness of muslim immgrants matter.
On top of that, with freedom of press and media in European countries, we can be sured that most younger generations of muslim immgrants will be exposed to the true face of Islam, especially on websites lke ex-muslim.com, FFI and etc....in fact tide of transgression towards their own islamic faith by these younger generations of muslim immigrants can easily be spotted on various ex muslms websites !
Ha ha ... you mean the soon to be ex council of ex muslims. How many people in the council? 1 or 2 or 2.5? They are going bankrupt and are now going around begging for money.
But all this work needs money and the CEMB is in the worst financial situation since its inception. It is incredibly hard to get support for our work from funders, even some who might be perceived as allies. The media and government, too, continue to avoid real discussion on the issues at hand
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Anyone who wants to send over your used underwear as an act of charity are welcomed to do so. 'wkk5159' , what are you going to send over? Your used muzzle
and get a new one? All of us are worried as you are just frothing in your mouth and trying to bite at anything that moves.The soon to be ex council of ex muslims really need your assistance. Any donation will do. Ha ha ...
This is funny. You are feeling the pinch as christianity in europe is declining and Islam is on the rise? You feel threatened? Ha ha , don't worry , in the history of the world , the christians have always been the aggressor conquering and killing natives. Hell , to the europeans you are just a slant eyed gook , albeit a christian.
Ooi tambi , we are still waiting for your evidence of your claim that Quran86:4-7 is in error. I repeat , assertions don't count. Its just your fantasy. Don't embarrass yourself with any (mis)understanding like semen = sperm again. Its horrible yet you claim to be a 'medical professional' insinuating you are a doctor.
Hmm , I am 'impressed' , you do know DNA plot. You must have spent a lot of time googling for it. Ha ha
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'Prototaip' has ran away with his tail between his legs.
Eh....he has clearly decimated your lies into smiththereens.....even i had long ago embarrassed and exposed your scientific illiteracy....kamu betul-betul pandai syok sendiri oh, biasa lah, jika tidak berkelakuan sedemikian ianya tidak lagi digelar muslim lagi.
We are still waiting for your proof against Quran86:4-7. Assertions don't count , its just your fantasy.
Assertions ? Poor old ustaz, like all muslims they seems to have problem understanding scientific facts, if all of you(those science literate only) have follow this thread from post 1# to the last post, you will encountered countless facts that have been given by me and Prototaip and yet this serpent as usual still shamelessly repeating his trademark idiocy semen=sperm.....
You are just here frothing in your rmouth and trying to bite anything that moves .... so sad ....
Poor soul, not only stupid in nature but now infected with rabies virus. This poor ustaz must be ignorant about rabid dogs and get bitten as a result. You need any rabies antiserum ? Ii have some in my fridge, unlike muslims, Christians help and save their enemies.... 
This is funny. You are feeling the pinch as christianity in europe is declining and Islam is on the rise? You feel threatened?
Feeling threatened by Islam ??? Eh....all the kafir earthlings more concern about meteorite collision and martian invasion than insignificant muslims who are backward in all aspects of modern achievements....no sound persons in their right mind will take them seriously.......of couse lah with the exception of islamic terrorists which is a bit hard to eradicate even with the extermination of Osama bin Laden...
to the europeans you are just a slant eyed gook , albeit a christian.
I'm not even slant eyed to begin with, hehehe....with this racist remark, he has insulted all of his own muslim brethrens in the world with slant eye which millions can be found in China, Krygystan, Turkmenistan.....what can i say; stupidity need not to be taught !
p/s: Arab muslims practise overt and covert type of racism, they look down on colored skin muslims which include Black, Malay.....They believe in any scientific research of white non-muslims even it's a shit, eg: Dr Maurice Bucaille but despise their own colored scientist brethrens even the findings are more outstanding..... Do you think Arab will buy a Proton ?? Wake up ! They rather buy a much more expensive BMW or Audi made by the minds and hands of people who crave schweinchaff (pork knuckle) instead of halal meat....
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wkk5159 posted on 31-1-2013 03:09 PM
'Prototaip' has ran away with his tail between his legs.
Eh....he has clearly decimated your lies i ...
Ha ha , you aptly fit the description that you are frothing in your mouth and trying to bite anything that moves. You cannot even focus on the argument that you started but go on a sideway diatribe trying to divert attention from the real issue of your and 'prototaip' mere assertions. Well , too bad for you , assertions are just your uneducated opinion. We expect evidence :
'Prototaip' has ran away with his tail between his legs.
Eh....he has clearly decimated your lies into smiththereens.....even i had long ago embarrassed and exposed your scientific illiteracy....kamu betul-betul pandai syok sendiri oh, biasa lah, jika tidak berkelakuan sedemikian ianya tidak lagi digelar muslim lagi.
We are still waiting for your proof against Quran86:4-7. Assertions don't count , its just your fantasy.
Assertions ? Poor old ustaz, like all muslims they seems to have problem understanding scientific facts, if all of you(those science literate only) have follow this thread from post 1# to the last post, you will encountered countless facts that have been given by me and Prototaip and yet this serpent as usual still shamelessly repeating his trademark idiocy semen=sperm.....
You are just here frothing in your rmouth and trying to bite anything that moves .... so sad ....
Poor soul, not only stupid in nature but now infected with rabies virus. This poor ustaz must be ignorant about rabid dogs and get bitten as a result. You need any rabies antiserum ? Ii have some in my fridge, unlike muslims, Christians help and save their enemies....
This is funny. You are feeling the pinch as christianity in europe is declining and Islam is on the rise? You feel threatened?
Feeling threatened by Islam ??? Eh....all the kafir earthlings more concern about meteorite collision and martian invasion than insignificant muslims who are backward in all aspects of modern achievements....no sound persons in their right mind will take them seriously.......of couse lah with the exception of islamic terrorists which is a bit hard to eradicate even with the extermination of Osama bin Laden...
to the europeans you are just a slant eyed gook , albeit a christian.
I'm not even slant eyed to begin with, hehehe....with this racist remark, he has insulted all of his own muslim brethrens in the world with slant eye which millions can be found in China, Krygystan, Turkmenistan.....what can i say; stupidity need not to be taught !
p/s: Arab muslims practise overt and covert type of racism, they look down on colored skin muslims which include Black, Malay.....They believe in any scientific research of white non-muslims even it's a shit, eg: Dr Maurice Bucaille but despise their own colored scientist brethrens even the findings are more outstanding..... Do you think Arab will buy a Proton ?? Wake up ! They rather buy a much more expensive BMW or Audi made by the minds and hands of people who crave schweinchaff (pork knuckle) instead of halal meat....
You are in delusion. You and 'prototaip' have been exposed trying to argue on selective translation. Too bad for you I have the consistency of the Quran and a reference from the Uni of London that 'sulb' means loins. Both of you have nothing. Even if you die die insist on backbone , if I were to draw a line from the tip of the coccyx to the lowest part of the 12th rib , the line will at least go thru the proximal part of the seminal vesicles. Then the description fits BETWEEN the backbone and ribs. What did 'prototaip' do? He provided a frontal perspective and blabbered non facts , like you.
The worst part you argued about sperm but the verse states of semen. Ha ha , both of you have this (mis)understanding that semen = sperm. This is horrible.
Aren't you not a slant eyed gook to the Europeans? Why do you deny this fact?
Why are you blabbering about proton? I am expecting your argument on Quran86:4-7. All you have is just a copy paste and then you ran away. You have trouble focusing on the argument or you are just looking at all sorts of excuses not to address you blunder of an argument?
Ha ha , don't embarrass yourself any further with your argument of sperm = semen or the like.
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Even if you die die insist on backbone , if I were to draw a line from the tip of the coccyx to the lowest part of the 12th rib , the line will at least go thru the proximal part of the seminal vesicles.
Who taught you biology ??? Your biology teacher in the madrasah you attended ??? Two fatal mistakes here ;
1. Anybody with proper knowledge of human biology will know that if you draw a line from the tip of the coccyx to the tip of last rib, you won't intersect the proximal part of seminal gland because it is located lower than that unless A. Your seminal gland is located abnormally high. B. Your last rib is located lower than average normal human being. Either way, you can only substantiate your argument if you are nature freak mutant.
2. If he insisted in his first post that seminal gland is responsible for male reproduction,then stop arguing as it is biological fact that seminal gland only produce seminal fluid and testicle produce spermatozoa. If you remove the seminal gland and keep the testicle intact, a male will still be able to reproduce but if you remove the testicle and retain the seminal gland.....hehehehe, congratulation ! You are now in the category of eunuch as sam1528, cuai and dzurqarnain.... |
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wkk5159 posted on 31-1-2013 06:16 PM
Even if you die die insist on backbone , if I were to draw a line from the tip of the coccyx to the ...
Ha ha trying to lie your way thru?
Who taught you biology ??? Your biology teacher in the madrasah you attended ??? Two fatal mistakes here ;
1. Anybody with proper knowledge of human biology will know that if you draw a line from the tip of the coccyx to the tip of last rib, you won't intersect the proximal part of seminal gland because it is located lower than that unless A. Your seminal gland is located abnormally high. B. Your last rib is located lower than average normal human being. Either way, you can only substantiate your argument if you are nature freak mutant.
2. If he insisted in his first post that seminal gland is responsible for male reproduction,then stop arguing as it is biological fact that seminal gland only produce seminal fluid and testicle produce spermatozoa. If you remove the seminal gland and keep the testicle intact, a male will still be able to reproduce but if you remove the testicle and retain the seminal gland.....hehehehe, congratulation ! You are now in the category of eunuch as sam1528, cuai and dzurqarnain....
Hmm , you learned your biology in a church or sunday school?
(1) Anybody with a proper knowledge of human biology will admit that when a line is drawn from the tip of the coccyx to the lowest part of the 12th ribs , the line will at least go thru the proximal part of the seminal vesicles. It doesn't matter which part of the seminal vesicles however it does hit it. Surprise surprise , your buddies in faithfreedom also agrees with it :
If you are looking at the lower diagram, that is a cross sectional view and does not include the coccyx. Look at the diagram above it, If you were to draw a line from the tip of the coccyx and continue going through the proximal portion of the seminal vesicle, you will probably hit the 12th rib.
Author : Martini
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:38 am
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Ha ha , now you got debunked by the very people from the very site you copied pasted your argument. This is so sad for you and of course 'prototaip'. Are you now going to disavow them?? Ha ha
(2) Why are you still arguing about sperm? The verse states of semen not sperm. Can you address the argument in its accurate context? No wonder you die die claim of error in the verse. The error is in your comprehension. You are not addressing the said verse in its accurate context. The way you argue , you might as well argue that the sky is green and red polka dot. Can you now provide a justification why you always argue about sperm. Nobody insisted that seminal glands is responsible for reproduction. This is just strawman argument from you to divert the issue.
How come you are not capable to comprehend and respond to issues in its accurate context? Is it because you are always looking to run from the argument as you do not have a firm grip of the issue on hand?
Ha ha , first you got refuted on the word 'sulb' as it clear your argument is just an argument from selective translation with absolutely no reference backup. Being debunked on 'BETWEEN backbone and ribs' .... coming soon.
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wkk5159 posted on 31-1-2013 06:16 PM
Even if you die die insist on backbone , if I were to draw a line from the tip of the coccyx to the ...
It is now very clear that yours and 'prototaip' argument is either
(1) based on disingenuous selective translation
(2) being innovative in die die insisting that 'sulb' is backbone.
My response to (2) is also an innovative response that you cannot refute. A line drawn between the tip of the coccyx to the lowest part of the 12th ribs will go thru the proximal part of the seminal vesicles. Even your buddies in the faithfreedom forum are in agreement. If you want to refute this fact , you need to provide a diagram showing that it is not possible. You will struggle. We are addressing semen not sperm as the verse stated 'fluid ejected' not the origin of the fluid.
The verse Quran86:7
Transliteration : Yakhruju min bayni assulbi wattara-ib
Refer to Lane Lexicon for 'sulb'
Ll mentions, as a
phrase of the Arabs, 4s.o i ;i;E [Thas are
thl sAns of their loins: because the sperma of the
man is held to proceed from the ~ of the man,
as is said in the Ksh &c. in lxxxvi.7]
3rd column from left line 17
Lane Lexicon states that 'sulb' means loins and it refers to the Quran lxxxvi.7 , meaning Quran86:7. Therefore yours and 'prototaip' argument about backbone is just hogwash. The context of the verse drives its translation and in this case its loins and not backbone.
Taraib (taraeb) is specific for females as pointed out by Lane Lexicon :
but most of the authors on strange words affirm
decidedly that it is peculiar to women: (TA
3rd column line 20
Lane Lexicon is modern arabic which translates taraib (taraeb) to be ribs. However in classical arabic per Lisan Al Arab , the word has far wider meaning but also specific to females.
Taraeb or taraib is a very old word. Refer to post#146 by bro cuai , the list is from Lisan Al-Arab [1], Book 1, Page 220-223.
The meaning of the word is as follows :
We see that to the Arabs of old, the meaning of TARA'EB in the human anatomy varied. It meant
1. Something that could not be seen with the naked eyes.
2. Different anatomies that are inside the abdomen area and the human body in general.
3. TARA'EB refers to the anatomies, inside the human body, that deal with sexual consummation, fertilization, pregnancy and birth (مرتع).
4. Different positions and locations inside the body.
5. A steady process and event.
6. A rich process that involves many things.
7. Something that is quite honorable and powerful.
8. Something that is mixed and mingled and is the best., which is basically and end-result of very complex and thorough process, such as production of semen and sperms.
9. Different parts of the human-body.
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In context , taraeb (taraib) this verse (Quran86:7) does not mean ribs but the abdomen of a female. Reading from verse 6 in context means that pregnancy can occur with a liquid gushing forth from
(1) loins (of man) ; and
(2) inside the abdomen or human body that deal in consummation , fertilization , pregnancy and birth (hilited)
Quran86:6-7 is so simple to understand if you have a bit of common sense and know a bit of arabic. In simple terms , life is created or pregnancy occurs when the semen from the loins (man) gushes forward during consummation and fertilize the ovum inside the abdomen (female)
Nothing to do with backbone nor ribs. The problem with you (wkk5159) and 'prototaip' is that you idiots don't know any arabic , the nuance of its language but die die want to argue based on just a translation which you guys disingenously cherry pick.
If you and 'prototaip' still want to argue on why one word can have many meanings , as an example , consider the word 'period' in english. It can mean
(1) timespan
(2) menstruation
(3) full stop
according to the context of the sentence.
You guys need to be consistent with the standards of your argument.
See if you can refute me.
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sam1528 posted on 31-1-2013 10:38 PM
It is now very clear that yours and 'prototaip' argument is either
(1) based on disingenuous sele ...
brader memang terbaik la...mane 2 kapiak tu..nak merepek ape lak la lepas ni.. |
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Take a break from my case.....ah...seems like this serpent really is a full time ustaz employed by government to refute the ever fragile contents of koran. Never mind lah, spare 10 min to refute this serpent lah b4 attending to other case.
Hehehe.....the science illiterate ustaz must have spent whole days desperately googling the website for information to salvage his embarrassing statement in the earlier post. What ? You need to copy and paste from FFI website, a website famous for its criticism of Islam to make your point ??? Just a page from your book, do you understand what you copy and paste ?
I don't have time now for the FFI website to check the authencity of the serpent's claim but logic tells me that anything from FFI must have against Islam and in this case quran 86:4-7......but unlike the "i know the koran only" ustaz, i don't have to refer to any human anatomy textbook or more pathetic religious website to substantiate my point.
Have the ustaz ever perform any dissection on human cadaver before ??? The answer is definitely a hell no....i think he might not ever dissect a rat or frog before, all he knows is dissecting his beloved koran.....
I have dissected countless cadaver in my relatively short career and i know exactly where seminal gland is.....unfortunately, in this case he lies to the wrong person.
I just showed some of the serpent's post to my medical co-workers and the respond i get is the commotional chuckle and giggle all over the place...
Just a excerpt from the serpent from post 6#; "Err , isn't the seminal vesicles between the backbone (coccyx / lower back) and the ribs. Ok , I don't expect you being able to understand such simple explanation"
His earlier post clearly indicating that he is refering to seminal gland as source of male reproduction organ instead of testicle as he did not mention testicle at all. And later come that "cuai" with the "sulb" or loin and even groin argument try to buffer and save the poor ustaz from all these quranic nonsense....valiant effort but futile !
Everyone with sound mind and IQ who follow this thread will be able to tell what is really going on. The three stooges clearly stated the source of male reproduction is located somewhere between the backbone and ribs and not between the legs.....there's huge difference between "between backbone and ribs" and "between the legs" ....got it ?
Like i said before, muslim males don't need testicles, they only require seminal gland......oh yes, the one according to them located between backbone and ribs.....
Why suddenly woman menstruation come into the scene, damn ! That lothario prophet favourite.... Pathetic attempt to divert attention again.....
I guess that's all for now folks, got to attend to my case now......if the serpent really got some balls, just bring this debate to FFI forum and debate with the likes of Ali Sina and other FFI forumer, don't hide here like a eunuch and i don't have the luxury of time to attend to your "serpentine truth".....
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Dzulqarnain posted on 1-2-2013 02:56 AM
Sperms are produced in chest not testicle ! According to Quran intepreter cum biologist wannabe(s).. ...
Thank you Osama wannabe for the non-stop entertainment....keep it up !
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wkk5159 posted on 1-2-2013 12:17 AM
Take a break from my case.....ah...seems like this serpent really is a full time ustaz employed by g ...
Ha ha , what a pathetic , senile and an idiotically blabbering creature you are. You are not even attempting to address the argument but go about in your mindless blabber. Yet you cliam to be a 'medical professional'? Sinseh kot .... ha ha. I will deconstruct your mindless diatribe and embarass you further :
Take a break from my case.....ah...seems like this serpent really is a full time ustaz employed by government to refute the ever fragile contents of koran. Never mind lah, spare 10 min to refute this serpent lah b4 attending to other case.
Hehehe.....the science illiterate ustaz must have spent whole days desperately googling the website for information to salvage his embarrassing statement in the earlier post. What ? You need to copy and paste from FFI website, a website famous for its criticism of Islam to make your point ??? Just a page from your book, do you understand what you copy and paste ?
I don't have time now for the FFI website to check the authencity of the serpent's claim but logic tells me that anything from FFI must have against Islam and in this case quran 86:4-7......but unlike the "i know the koran only" ustaz, i don't have to refer to any human anatomy textbook or more pathetic religious website to substantiate my point.
Have the ustaz ever perform any dissection on human cadaver before ??? The answer is definitely a hell no....i think he might not ever dissect a rat or frog before, all he knows is dissecting his beloved koran.....
I have dissected countless cadaver in my relatively short career and i know exactly where seminal gland is.....unfortunately, in this case he lies to the wrong person.
I just showed some of the serpent's post to my medical co-workers and the respond i get is the commotional chuckle and giggle all over the place...
Like I stated , assertions don't count. Assertions are just your uneducated opinion. You now need to provide evidence of your argument. I showed your argument to my specialist friends and they fell on the ground lauging at your stupidity. They did asked me , which university you came from. All of then expressed confidence that a local graduate will not be as stupid as this. At this moment you have nothing. You need to show me with a drawing that a line between the tip of the coccyx to the lowest end of the ribs will not in any way pass thru any proximal part of the seminal vesicle. You are struggling as you have no evidence. The best part , you have been debunked by your fellow buddies from the faith freedom forums , the very forum you and 'prototaip' copied pasted your argument. Ha ha .... you lost badly here.
Just a excerpt from the serpent from post 6#; "Err , isn't the seminal vesicles between the backbone (coccyx / lower back) and the ribs. Ok , I don't expect you being able to understand such simple explanation"
His earlier post clearly indicating that he is refering to seminal gland as source of male reproduction organ instead of testicle as he did not mention testicle at all. And later come that "cuai" with the "sulb" or loin and even groin argument try to buffer and save the poor ustaz from all these quranic nonsense....valiant effort but futile !
Everyone with sound mind and IQ who follow this thread will be able to tell what is really going on. The three stooges clearly stated the source of male reproduction is located somewhere between the backbone and ribs and not between the legs.....there's huge difference between "between backbone and ribs" and "between the legs" ....got it ?
Like i said before, muslim males don't need testicles, they only require seminal gland......oh yes, the one according to them located between backbone and ribs.....
Ha ha , why are you not addressing the argument? The word 'sulb' has been proven by Lane Lexicon to be loins. What is your evidence to the contrary? As usual nothing but your assertions. Your assertions are just your uneducated opinion. Where is your evidence?
Between the legs? Ha ha , why are you repeating your blunder? Why you die die insist that it is absolute to draw a horizontal line in reference to an upright stance of humans? In other words why is it absolute for a 90 degrees reference to the upright stance of humans? Can you provide the medical citatation for such. Oops , as I recall , you admitted it is ok to draw a 'diagonal' line. You have just contradicted yourself. You call yourself a 'medical professional'? You deceptively innovated an argument of 'between the backbone and ribs' and now you cannot refute an innovative answer that a line drawn from the tip of the coccyx to the lowest part of the 12th ribs will at least go thru the proximal part of the seminal vesicles.
Why are you addressing the testicles? The said verse addresses semen not sperm. The said verse addresses 'yakhruf' or ejected or to leave or to gush out. It does not address the origination. You are repeating your blunder over and over again. This can only mean 2 things
(1) to you sperm = semen
(2) you are trying your best to divert the issue and not address the argument , a favourite tactic employed by a person who has been cornered
Why suddenly woman menstruation come into the scene, damn ! That lothario prophet favourite.... Pathetic attempt to divert attention again.....
I guess that's all for now folks, got to attend to my case now......if the serpent really got some balls, just bring this debate to FFI forum and debate with the likes of Ali Sina and other FFI forumer, don't hide here like a eunuch and i don't have the luxury of time to attend to your "serpentine truth".....
Ooi tambi , do you know how to read or at least understand english? My post#194 states as follows :
If you and 'prototaip' still want to argue on why one word can have many meanings , as an example , consider the word 'period' in english. It can mean
(1) timespan
(2) menstruation
(3) full stop
according to the context of the sentence.
Menstruation is an example of how one word can have multiple meanings in english. This is to preempt you anticipating your feeble attempt to bring up the issue of why one word like 'tatraeb' or 'taraib' can have multiple meanings. I really don't understand this. Why are you so stupid? Is it because you already conceded and now you are just arguing for the sake of arguing? Yet you claim to be a 'medical professional'? Malaysian universities like UM , UKM etc will not and never produce such people like you , a so called self admitted 'medical professional'. The graduates will at least have the capability to understand what they read.
Ha ha , why are you behaving like a pimp for Ali Sina / faith freedom? Are you pimping his site as he pays you to divert the traffic? I am debating you. Why are you trying to run and talk about other sites? This is an open forum and the comments are not blocked. The best part , I reproduce one of the response from a participant in the faith freedom forum :
If you are looking at the lower diagram, that is a cross sectional view and does not include the coccyx. Look at the diagram above it, If you were to draw a line from the tip of the coccyx and continue going through the proximal portion of the seminal vesicle, you will probably hit the 12th rib.
Author : Martini
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:38 am
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Ha ha , now you got debunked by the very people from the very site you copied pasted your argument. This is so sad for you and of course 'prototaip'. Are you now going to disavow them?? Ha ha
You are the idiot here. The very least 'prototaip' knows when to exit when the going gets rough on him and he knows his argument was about to be decimated. You on the other hand is like a lamb being led to the slaughter. Well , your god in biblical Jesus was also like a lamb being led to the slaughter per your blind faith as no where in the bible that state that he was crucified but you people die die believe so.
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Wow ! the deceptive serpentine ustaz is getting mad....hehe.....typical desperate loser who start calling names and cursing...cool down old man, watch out for your cardiovascular health. if you later have a heart attack or stroke due to hypertension, you might end up on my patient bed. I may be the physician who treat you and don't worry i won't be vengeful coz i'm not a muslim...
Of course you don't believe in crucifixion of Jesus Christ lah if not you won't be called a muslim lah...you moron !
Christian = Eternal salvation, God inspired wisdom, leading almost every aspect of modern science.....
Muslim = No salvation only submit to Allah, devoid of God wisdom, most backward of all the faiths, even worse than pagan...
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