NISSAN LIVINA -all-new affordable MPV rm86k onwardss...

sharkie

Nak tanya sesiapa tau bila Nissan Grand Livina ni nak release kat Malaysia? Indonesia dah release around March 2007 haritu...
Size is between Avanza & Innova tapi rendah macam kereta biasa. Kat Indon pun ada 2 jenis enjin... 1.5l & 1.8l. Harge katanya estimated betwen RM75K- RM100K.
Saya ni tak tau sgt pasal kreta2 tapi cuuuunnnn aaaaarrrr....Mmg rasa nak tukor mpv.... rasanya ni paling sesuai kot....




[ Last edited by  takumi86 at 24-12-2007 01:57 PM ]

fawabi

cun ah.. tak dengar lagi citer keta ni nak release kat sini... ala-ala kalau tak mampu pakai wish bleh aje sambar ni kan?

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fawabi

ko masuk paultan kan?
katanye mid year.. ni dah nak masuk 3/4 aku tak dengar citer lagi pon...

wait and see lah

Petikan Motor Treader

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TEST DRIVE: Nissan Grand Livina April 05, 2007 07:05 PM    Author: Chips

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How times have changed

Getting in, I realised that the driving position was somewhat low - unusual for a MPV. It is not a complaint, though, and for those who make the change from a passenger car to a Grand Livina, it would be welcome as they would still feel the same. Of course, a higher position is always nice but because of the low roofline, this was probably not possible.

The HR15DE engine was new to me as we have never had the Tiida here so I was curious how it would perform. As the engines were well run-in (having been driven from the factory to Bali), the unit was quite free-revving and seemed adequate for the vehicle which is lighter than the Avanza. I feel pretty sure the engine also runs smoother than the Toyota engine but might not have the same strong torque at the lower end. Of course, it was quite a while since I drove an Avanza so it was just a feeling and I might be wrong.

Switching over to the bigger engine later, the Grand Livina took on a different character. The MR18DE felt like a hotrod and had a very nice exhaust note. It抯 a quicker MPV than the 1.5 version and certainly was a pleasure to drive. On the car I drove, I noticed a bit of throttle response lag which bothered me in some corners but I didn抰 get a chance to try another unit to see if it was just on the one I had. The gear ratios in both version are well chosen and keep the engine spinning at low revs while cruising.

The handling of he Grand Livina was as I had expected

When Renault formed its alliance with Nissan and basically rescued the Japanese carmaker from becoming history, the priority in the initial years was to quickly fix the product lines since products are crucial to success. During the 1990s, Nissan抯 product lines had stagnated and customers wandered away, causing a sales decline which only compounded its massive financial problems. Because the recovery was such a massive task, priority was given to the markets which would be able to provide quick returns and these were the USA and Europe and of course, the domestic line-up also needed to be quickly updated. Other smaller markets like the rest of Asia just had to wait till the big markets were stabilised and Nissan was in a better financial position.

This is why it seemed like Nissan was not doing anything for this region (in terms of new products) and did not even announce any plans to make use of the benefits of the Asean Free Trade Area (AFTA). Distributors like Edaran Tan Chong Motor (ETCM) in Malaysia just had to make do with what they had till Nissan could give attention to refreshing the products.

The waiting ended sometime in 2004 and planning began to develop new products specifically for the 慻eneral markets

Coming in later may have been disadvantageous in one way but it also allowed Nissan to see what Toyota was doing and how well its IMV strategy worked, and certainly it has been quite a success. For Nissan then, the challenge was to come up with a global product that would meet the needs of the same markets that Toyota抯 IMV project targeted but unlike Toyota, which is very rich, Nissan could not afford to develop an entirely new platform and had to make use of common platforms. Nevertheless, the product development cost was said to be around US$120 million. The choice was the B-platform which was already used for some Nissan and Renault models and could be adapted for a MPV, the bodystyle deemed suitable for a large number of markets. The product plan called for the new model to be produced entirely outside Japan, something which has not been the case in the past where there has usually been a 憁other plant

takumi86

biler pulak honda nak kuar keter alaa innova and grand livina ni??
kuar enjin idsi/vtec 1.8 and 2.0.,
MPV jimat minyakk... aku pun nak beli satupp..

In developing the Grand Livina, as it is called in Indonesia, the target model was the Toyota Avanza as well as the Innova, the top-sellers there. According to Satoshi Matsutomi, Chief Product Specialist for the model, the product planners aimed to produce a rival which offered better comfort at an affordable price. They actually focussed more on the Innova, a larger model, which was the best-seller in Indonesia, continuing the success of the original Kijang. 揌owever, since the time we began development of the Grand Livina, economic conditions in Indonesia have changed and it appears that the Avanza has become much more popular than the Innova so we need to take a new look at our positioning,

Mr Matsutomi  said that a key difference in the approach taken in the design of the Grand Livina in comparison to the Toyota IMV models is that the new Nissan model has a monocoque platform, similar to a car抯, whereas the IMV models use a chassis frame that is usually for trucks. The monocoque platform guarantees a more comfortable ride, and the B-platform is already in use for the Tiida/Versa and Sylphy.


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Depending on the version, there are different front end styles but all seem to be derived from the Murano

Mr Matsutomi said that the Grand Livina is not intended to compete with the Honda Stream, Mazda5 and Toyota Wish as these are more upmarket in concept. 揑n China, the main competitor for the Grand Livina is the Mazda Premacy (the predecessor of the Mazda5),

For the Indonesian market, the Grand Livina comes with engines from two different Nissan powerplant families mated to either 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmissions. The smaller engine is a 1.5-litre HR15DE while the larger one is a 1.8-litre MR18DE (which also gets a 6-speed manual transmission). Both engine families are quite new and were developed jointly by Nissan and Renault.


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Nissan HR15DE engine

With shared technologies, the 4-cylinder engines have claims of class-leading torque levels and lightness as well as 30% less friction than earlier Nissan engines in the same class. An interesting feature of these engines is the length of the four intake manifold branches which were acoustically-tuned for a pleasant engine sound. The sound pressure also rises as the engine speed increases to enhance the sensation of acceleration.

Both DOHC 16-valve engines have Nissan Continuous Valve Timing Control (CVTC) on the inlet valves to broaden the powerband and outputs are as follow:

HR15DE: 109 ps/6000 rpm, 148.2 Nm/4400 rpm
MR18DE: 128 ps/5200 rpm, 175.7 Nm/4800 rpm

It is believed that Nissan is also looking at the HR16DE 1.6-litre engine as another option for the Grand Livina, perhaps for certain markets. This engine produces 118 ps and 166.9 Nm and might give Nissan a selling point over the Avanza which has 1.5-litres as its largest displacement.

The chassis is quite straightforward with independent MacPherson struts in front and a simple H-shaped torsion beam axle with stabilizer at the rear. As complete technical details were not available, it is uncertain if the suspension has the 憆ipple control

With regard to load capacity, Mr Matsutomi said that the suspension is good enough for the loads that are expected for the Grand Livina. He agreed that a chassis frame handles loads well but explained that the Grand Livina was developed with comfort in mind and a monocoque chassis is better in that respect. He did not think that there would be any issues with load-carrying even with seven persons on board. From the Grand Livina抯 exterior size, you would not imagine that three rows of seats can be installed but the Nissan designers managed it in a fairly roomy

For the Indonesian market, there are various trim levels ranging from basic to 憄remium

Oddysey dah ada

Originally posted by takumi86 at 8-8-2007 12:13 AM
biler pulak honda nak kuar keter alaa innova and grand livina ni??
kuar enjin idsi/vtec 1.8 and 2.0.,
MPV jimat minyakk... aku pun nak beli satupp..

zacharygibson

Originally posted by janab at 8-8-2007 12:17 AM
Oddysey dah ada

oddysey tu besaaarr la ahkak...   tak sama kelas ngan grand livina nih..

oddysey tu sama kelas ngan alphard kott..  kalau tak pon, ngan kia carnival..


kalau grand livina tu sama kelas ngan innova jer...  kira satu derajad bawah dari toyota wish..


tapi 2 perkara yang aku kureng berkenan sket ngan Livita.. eh, Livina ni ialah :

1. Baseline model dia pakai enjin 1.5L jer... merangkak la kalau nak naik Genting..

2. Wheel base dia agak pendek... lebih pendek dari Avanza..  jadi handling kat jalan selekoh tak berapa ngam la kott..

sharkie

Kawan i ada tanya Nissan showroom... mmg nak keluar Malaysia hujung tahun ni... tapi harga RM100K+..... Hmmm..... berbaloi ke? Kalau less than RM100K tu ok gak kan...

acura

kalu harga 100K baik ambil wish...

neisya

neisya pun sama alasan macam tu....tp dah keluar ke kereta ni?....

neisya

[quote]Originally posted by janab at 8-8-2007 12:16 AM
GRAND LIVINA IN MALAYSIA
For most readers, the question will be when the Grand Livina will be launched in Malaysia and what specs it will have. The answer from ETCM is 憇econd half of 2007