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Speech Disorder - BSER Test

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Post time 27-7-2008 10:36 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Salam semua.

Ada siapa2 yang berpengalaman pasal BSER test ni? Mintak pendapat / berkongsi pengalaman or anything related to this.

My son is 4yo. Hardly speaks. Recently paed dia referred us to ENT specialist. ENT sp tu sort of marah kitorang sbb lambat sgt bawak jumpa dia. He said sepatutnya kalau dah nampak ada speech problem by 2yo, dah kena seek advise. First step is hearing test. He said boys generally start speaking later than girls but 4yo is far too late. Konfius jugak saya sbb paed dia all these while kata still early. FYI, my son ni ada mild hyperactive.

He then referred us to audiologist pulak untuk BSER. Then I contacted one audiologyst utk buat test. Sekali lagi kena 'tegur' sbb lewat take action. She said kalau for budak 4 tahun, she doesn't do BSER dah but buat 'Behavioral Audiometry'.

Anyone yang tahu pasal benda ni or pernah go thru with your kids, appreciate some information/sharing of experience.

Thanks.

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Post time 27-7-2008 11:22 AM | Show all posts
Bleh terang detail pasal ur son dia x bercakap langsung ke macammane kurang faham.
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 Author| Post time 27-7-2008 12:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aie81 at 27-7-2008 11:22 AM
Bleh terang detail pasal ur son dia x bercakap langsung ke macammane kurang faham.


Dia tak boleh buat full sentences. Paling panjang pun 3-words aje. Yang lelain like nak makan, nak mandi, nak main tu bolehlah. Single words like car, nasi, telur tu adalah jugak. Kalau dia 'bercerita' tu in his own bahasa lah. Memang tak faham. Kdg2 tension kita dibuatnya. Bila kita tak faham dia, mulalah dia nak mengamuk.

I doubt that dia ada hearing problems sbb he understands intructions. Kalau suruh buang sampah, dia pegi buang. Kalau ajak jalan, cepat aje dia pakai selipar.
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Post time 27-7-2008 03:44 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 ummimon's post

Bagus juga ur info nih, ada my fren rasanya anak lelaki die umur dkt 4 tahun ada masalah speech nih tapi still tak refer sesape lagi, then yg geramnya dia nyer paed cakap anak dia normal tak leh cakap lagi even masa tuh dah 2 tahun, so my fren nih atas nasihat my other fren tukar paed yg suggest suh dia jumpa speech terapist...
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Post time 27-7-2008 03:46 PM | Show all posts
Anak my fren nih rasanya just cakap single words jek then memanjang tak bercakap...masa datang umah I aritu (I wat bday party my son) anak dia langsung tak bercakap kalau nak something tunjuk or mintak...
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 Author| Post time 27-7-2008 09:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hazen at 27-7-2008 03:44 PM
Bagus juga ur info nih, ada my fren rasanya anak lelaki die umur dkt 4 tahun ada masalah speech nih tapi still tak refer sesape lagi, then yg geramnya dia nyer paed cakap anak dia normal tak leh  ...


share info and also seek info sebenarnya.

itulah yang herannya. my paed kata stille early stage sbb my son ni ada mild h/active. tapi ent dah marah sbb lambat. audiologist pun tegur sbb start lambat. alasan my paed tu - my son takleh dok diam so kalau start speech therapy pun susah nak ada effect.
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 Author| Post time 27-7-2008 09:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hazen at 27-7-2008 03:46 PM
Anak my fren nih rasanya just cakap single words jek then memanjang tak bercakap...masa datang umah I aritu (I wat bday party my son) anak dia langsung tak bercakap kalau nak something tunjuk or  ...

samalah tu. kalau kita tak faham, siap guling2 marah lagi dia. nak gelak ada, geram pun ada.
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Post time 27-7-2008 10:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ummimon at 27-7-2008 09:48 PM

samalah tu. kalau kita tak faham, siap guling2 marah lagi dia. nak gelak ada, geram pun ada.

my fren anak dia, dia bwk ms umur 2 thn, tp ok ler..wife dia pun dr...masalahnya anaknyer nih tak baper communicate kat umah..dok ngan maid,maid ckp indon n maybe maid pun kurang ckp ngan dia..so umi kene tgk jugak keliling environment dia mcm mana..time umi panggil dia from back, ada tak dia turn carik ummi?tp bebdk nih once dpt mulut..adoiiii...
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 Author| Post time 27-7-2008 10:17 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by honeybee1802 at 27-7-2008 10:02 PM

my fren anak dia, dia bwk ms umur 2 thn, tp ok ler..wife dia pun dr...masalahnya anaknyer nih tak baper communicate kat umah..dok ngan maid,maid ckp indon n maybe maid pun kurang ckp ngan dia.. ...


hopefully so. tiap2 pagi bangun tido, how i wish suddenly he blurt out and bercakap terus! nampaknya so far takde lagi lag

he goes to nursery masa umur setahun. now he also attends kindy. mula2 dulu, manjang dia kat luar kelas aje. takmo masuk dalam. buat hal sendiri. sekarang ni ada perkembangan jugak but still kdg2 dia keluar pi main paip air kat depan kindy tu or pi main kat playground dalam kawasan kindy. start kindy at 4yo tu bukannya saya harapkan sangat dia boleh membaca/kira terus. i want him to communicate dengan budak2 lain dan bersosiol. of courselah kalau dia boleh membaca/kira dalam masa2 terdekat ni, that would be a bonus lah kan.

hearing-wise, i don think he has that problem. hearing-test would be the first step to assess apa masalah sebenar dia ni. kalau that one ruled-out, then masuk step lain pulak.

his name is Muhammad Iman, btw. we call him Iman.
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Post time 28-7-2008 12:11 PM | Show all posts
mmm.... this issue really trigger me to send my son to see paed.... dah 2 thn 4 bln... but he only speak alient langguage.... nak mempermudahkan die punye communication dgn kami is sign langguage.... nak mkn tunjuk jer jari dlm mulut.... kalo nak something or mengadu die akan dtg n tunjuk apa yg die nak..... i x rase die ade hearing problem pasal he understand my instruction kalo suro pegi buang samph or etc.... i try gak panggil die dr belkang.... n yes die dtg kat i..... i dah inform my hubby byk kali.... tapi die x rase that thing is critical kot.... pasal die buat xde mende jer..... ingat this weekend kene gak bawak die gi paed.....
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Post time 28-7-2008 12:20 PM | Show all posts
my fren's son dulu dia detect ada sort kind of this prob..dia bwk jmp pakar wktu anak dia umo 3 thn camtuh n diagnosed autisme...anak dia mmg active sgt..tp mmg ada speech problem..dulu yg dia mula perasan tu sbb anak dia x byk bercakap..klu nak susu,dia tarik tangan my fren ni n tunjukkan botol susu, kalau nak naik pon sama,dia tarik tgn mak dia n tunjuk periuk nasi..since then mmg dia ulang alik g buat treatment kat hukm...now her son dah darjah 3 n still going for treatments
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Post time 28-7-2008 01:26 PM | Show all posts

Reply #9 ummimon's post

Hi ummi..
Same condition ngan my son.
Mcm my son, Dr confirm moderate hearing loss (SJMC). Reason ada air kat belakang eardrum. Ambik ubat tp tak hilang jugak. So skrg tunggu sampai tahap pemahaman dia improve then nak buat drain kat telinga dia.

That's why I mula2 pun tak take it seriously masa umur dia 4 thn.
Because langsung takde tanda2 mcm tak dengar ke apa.
But actually some pitch dia tak leh dengar clear unless bunyi tu kuat.
So ada effect sikit kat speech. Sikit meaning dlm 20% (Ni dr lah cakap).
Anak I skrg gi speech therapy ler. Tp dah 3 minggu termiss sbb bz ya amat.
Copying skill (communication) ada lah improvement skrg. But in terms of story telling (like what happen in school that day) tak nampak perubahan sgt. Nak relate 1 sentence to another to belum boleh lagi.

Mmg dia tau guna 3,4 words je per sentence.
Everyday kena ulang apa yg dia cakap, and betulkan balik ayat dia.

Short sentence mcm ni dah ok sikit especially rutin2 :
1) Morning wake up
2) after that brush teeth
3) after that mandi
4) after that eat bihun goreng.

Pastu takleh salu sgt betulkan bahasa yg tak berapa betul tu, takut dia lost confident.

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Post time 28-7-2008 01:53 PM | Show all posts
wow....

i tumpang baca... good info
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Post time 28-7-2008 04:38 PM | Show all posts
ada beb org yg ummi kenal anak mereka ada prob macamni. salah sorang anaknya dah 4 tahun but still cakap tak berapa clear, dia bawak pegi jumpa paed and he said ianya berkaitan dgn saraf jugaklah. So dia bagi ubat utk baiki saraf & kena wat treatment2 lain..and 1 sebab lain yg paed cakap ialah mereka terlalu didedahkan dgn cerita cartoon esp yg tak bersuara spt tom & jerry, pingu dll. ianya jg mempengaruhi. Rupa2nya semuanya memp inviroment yg sama iaitu terlalu didedahkan dgn cerita2 cartoon. So kurangkanlah actvt anak2 dgn cerita2 sebegitu. lagipun ummi pernah baca buku ttg perkembangan kanak2 di mana tidak digalakkan menonton terlalu kerap kerana bila menonton kanak2 tidak tidak menggunakan akal/kreativiti mrk. Padahal waktu ini mereka kena dilatih menggunakan/menggerakkan otak kanan/kiri..wallahualam..
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Post time 28-7-2008 05:48 PM | Show all posts
hi! my son 4yr.
problem sama.
Cakap dua patah perkataan je. pah tak fokus. no 2 way communication.
Start buat hearing test April - result normal
I register kat Klinik Audilogi UKM Jalan Temerloh and start Mei dia dah mula dengan Speech Terapi. seminggu sekali.
Ada improvement (tapi kini kena buat keje juga banyakkan praktise lepas terapi).
Last week ada appoinment dengan child psycologist HUKM. Buat iq test.
Child Psycologist kata anak I ada problem GDD  (Global Development Delayed).
maknanya dia lambat dalam pelbagai perkara.
Sebab dia ada problem dengan speech akan menyebabkan dia ketinggalan terutama bila masuk sekolah.
So Child Psycologist cadang supaya kami hantar dia gi playgroup selain sekolah.
Sebab kalau sekolah dia akan di push untuk belajar tetapi dalam playgroup dia akan bersosiol.
My son masuk kindy start 3 tahun. Hantar awal sebab nak tengok perkembangan dia dan dari situ kami mula sedar dia memang bermasalah.
So I kena keje lebih sikit untuk train my son supaya dia boleh kejar apa yang tertinggal.

Harapan suatu hari my son akan jadi macam budak lain...
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 Author| Post time 28-7-2008 09:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by jamdatuk at 28-7-2008 12:11 PM
mmm.... this issue really trigger me to send my son to see paed.... dah 2 thn 4 bln... but he only speak alient langguage.... nak mempermudahkan die punye communication dgn kami is sign langguage ...


if you ask me, bawaklah dia seek advise from pakar2 berkenaan. at least we're doing something kan.
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 Author| Post time 28-7-2008 09:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ummi_ina at 28-7-2008 12:20 PM
my fren's son dulu dia detect ada sort kind of this prob..dia bwk jmp pakar wktu anak dia umo 3 thn camtuh n diagnosed autisme...anak dia mmg active sgt..tp mmg ada speech problem..dulu yg dia mu ...


wow.. djh 3 and still going on for treatment huh. i'd better prepare myself as well. hopefully not lah kan. budak2 active/hyper ni susah nak diam, hence susah nak ajar diorang. itu antara sebab kenapa diorang lambat bercakap.
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 Author| Post time 28-7-2008 09:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ummiesya at 28-7-2008 04:38 PM
ada beb org yg ummi kenal anak mereka ada prob macamni. salah sorang anaknya dah 4 tahun but still cakap tak berapa clear, dia bawak pegi jumpa paed and he said ianya berkaitan dgn saraf jugaklah ...

ummiesya, thanks for sharing. mmg Iman byk tengok tv. shld control sikit after this. irony nya kakak dia can speak english sbb asyik tgk cartoon network, siap dengan slang bagai. bila adiknya, langsung takleh nak buat sentences pulak. ent pun ada mention hari tu, kalau hearing problem ruled-out, then maybe brain /nerve
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 Author| Post time 28-7-2008 10:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ayamkatik at 28-7-2008 05:48 PM
hi! my son 4yr.
problem sama.
Cakap dua patah perkataan je. pah tak fokus. no 2 way communication.
Start buat hearing test April - result normal
I register kat Klinik Audilogi UKM Jalan Temer ...


*hugs*
thanks for sharing.

tadi buat hearing test - okay, no problem so hearing disorder ruled-out.
buat kat innovative hearing, jalan ipoh. she wrote a referral letter back to iman's ent specialist, which i bukak sbb nak tau waht exactly she wrote. recommended for speech/language assessment as well as occupational theraphy.

she didnt do BSER tapi buat behavioral audiometry. memula tu iman cooperate. lelama tu he got fed-up and started to investigate dengan mesin2 and suis2 kat dalam bilik tu. jenuh nak completekan test. last2 ummi dgn abahnya terpaksa main sama-sama dengan iman.

our next move will be seeking advice from ent semula.

ps - if you don't mind, boleh share the price of those assessment and theraphy sessions? currently i do my consultation in ampang puteri.
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Post time 28-7-2008 11:11 PM | Show all posts

Reply #19 ummimon's post

rasanya boleh refer kat thread anak comelku autistic spectrum disorder, kat section Parenting Tips and Issues. Anak saya, 3 yrs old 31 August ni, pun ada masaalah ni...

Few weeks back kat Berita Harian, kalau x silap, keluar cerita cam kes ummion (ke ummion tu), sorang anak yang sulung speaking berabok, yang second one lansung x bercakap (just like my son)
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