Dutch Lady 123-TT Ratio : Is it safe?

tasha76

Saya tengah cari milk untuk anak yang one year old, so tengok banyak mums yang bagi Dutch Lady 123 with TT ratio ni.
So buat recearch sikit about TT ratio ni.Salah satu tambahannya ialah TRYPTOPHAN in this milk.

This is what I found:



Although tryptophan is included in certain special dietary products, such as intravenous feedings and infant formulas, that are given with medical supervision; the use of tryptophan as a dietary supplement cannot be recommended.


Summary

The use of tryptophan as a dietary supplement cannot be recommended due to the slight possibility it may cause eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome that may result in death or permanent disability.
Risks
Eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome, a potentially life-threatening condition, has been attributed to taking tryptophan supplements. While investigations into the exact reasons for this association were made, the U.S. FDA removed most tryptophan supplements from the market in this country.

Boleh baca kat sini
https://www.drugdigest.org/DD/PrintablePages/herbMonograph/0,11475,4031,00.html


What are your views?

[ Last edited by  tasha76 at 6-6-2007 04:25 PM ]

mclaren

tak tau nak komen macam mana. saya bagi anak saya enfagrow. setakat ni hanya enfagrow saje yang sesuai dgn dia, susu lain banyak juga dah cuba termasuklah dutch lady, nespray, dumex, progress, semua tak sesuai, either dia kembung perut, atau cirit, atau dia tak nak minum sebab tak suka rasa.

tapi company besar macam yang manufacture DL 123 ni, for sure dah buat research dulu, takkan sewenang2 nya ambil risiko sebesar ni tanpa mengkaji bahay ke tidak penambahan sesuatu zat ke dalam susu formula. i mean, bukan la nak backing, tapi maybe jumlah TT ratio tu tak sampai ke tahap bahayu kot?
entah la hamba pun bukan arif sgt...

ThousandIsland

bahaya ke?
aku memang tak tau le pasal ni..yg aku tau sejak ada mende alah nih rege dia dah naik.
memang my two girls minum DL.

iye ke ni???bahaya kan kalau betul.
kawan dar,anak die minum dutch lady ni.

tasha76

Anak saya yang first tu dulu2 memang minum Dutch Lady 123 ni. So saja tengok2 maybe untuk adik dia nanti. Bila baca dalam web Dutch Lady, kata ada TT Ratio untuk kecerdikan.

Saya pun search la kat net,
Apa kebaikan Tryptophan tu
Yang saya baca ialah benda ni membantu anak2 untuk tido dan juga orang guna sebagai ubat anti-murung.Tapi merbahaya.Tidak digalakkan.
Dutch Lady adalah satu2nya susu di Malaysia ni yang letak benda ni dalam susu.Rasa pelik gak la.
Macam mana pun rasanya saya tak akan ambik risk tu.

TAKUUUUUT

[ Last edited by  tasha76 at 7-6-2007 06:42 PM ]

lyly

ye ke???:stp:

tasha76

Entah la

Mummys kat sini boleh search in the net about side effect and benefit of TRYPTOPHAN.

Then we can discuss.

ThousandIsland

Ni info yg aku dpt dari www.healthvitaminsguide.com

Tryptophan

It is essential amino acid and should not be omitted from the diet. It is not synthesized in the animal but in microorganisms it may be synthesized. This amino acid is neither ketogenic nor glycogenic. Tryptophan may undergo bacterial putrefaction in the intestine causing the formation of indolacetic acid, indole, indoxyl, skatole and many other compounds. These are toxic substances and after being absorbed are detoxified in the liver by conjugation with sulphuric acid and glucoronic acid.
Hartnup disease is a hereditary defective metabolic condition in which tryptophan is not normally metabolized and excreted as such along with indolacetic acid. The symptoms are pellagra like skin and mental abnormality.

Sources of tryptophan
Tryptophan, found as a component of dietary protein, is particularly plentiful in chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk, cottage, cheese, meat, fish, turkey and peanuts.

Benefits of tryptophan
Tryptophan has two important functions. First, a small amount of the tryptophan we get in our diet (about 3%) is converted into niacin (vitamin B3) by the liver. This conversion can help prevent the symptoms associated with niacin deficiency when dietary intake of this vitamin is low.
The main function of tryptophan is as a building block in protein synthesis.
Tryptophan has been implicated as a possible cause of schizophrenia in people who cannot metabolize it properly. When improperly metabolized it creates a waste product in the brain which is toxic and causes hallucinations and delusions. Tryptophan has also been indicated as an aid for schizophrenic patients.
Clinical research tended to confirm tryptophan's effectiveness as a natural sleeping pill
Tryptophan helps the anxious agitated depressive to counterbalance, restoring a sense of well-being and behavioral self-control. Van Praag抯 research has shown that for many people suffering depression, combining the amino-acid tyrosine with tryptophan works much better than taking tryptophan alone
Chronic alcoholism may also have a serotonin component. Research with animals and humans has shown that alcohol initially increases serotonin nerve activity; yet chronic alcohol use impairs tryptophan entry into the brain. This chronic alcoholism may involve a vicious spiral of a brief alcohol induced increase of serotonin neural activity, with consequent sense of well being, combined with an ever worsening baseline state of serotonin nerve activity due to alcohol's impairment of brain tryptophan transport.
Recent research has shown that the depression that frequently accompanies and even predates the movement disorders of Parkinson's disease is primarily due to the hypo function of serotonin nerves, so tryptophan may be a useful adjunct to L-Dopa/ deprenyl treatment of Parkinson抯.
Tryptophan serves as a precursor for serotonin, a neurotransmitter that helps the body regulate appetite, sleep patterns, and mood. Because of its ability to raise serotonin levels, tryptophan has been used therapeutically in the treatment of a variety of conditions, most notably insomnia, depression, and anxiety.
Supplemental tryptophan also helps to reduce the anger and aggression.

Deficiency symptoms of tryptophan
As an essential amino acid, dietary deficiency of tryptophan may cause the symptoms characteristic of protein deficiency, which include weight loss and impaired growth in infants and children .
Deficiency of tryptophan can cause symptoms ranging from depression, PMS, anxiety, alcoholism, insomnia, violence, aggression, suicide, and compulsive gambling .
Suicidal behavior, compulsive gambling, irrationally dangerous thrill seeking behavior and pyromania (compulsive fire starting), have been shown to be correlated with low serotonin neural activity, combined with excessive dopaminergic/ noradrenergic activity.
When accompanied by dietary niacin deficiency, lack of tryptophan in the diet may also cause pellagra, the classic niacin deficiency disease that is characterized by the

tasha76

Yes
I read that too.Cuba perhatikan paragraph 12 rasanya dari petikan di atas:-


(However, in 1989, the use of dietary supplements containing tryptophan was blamed for the development of a serious condition called eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS), which caused severe muscle and joint pain, high fever, weakness, swelling of the arms and legs, and shortness of breath in more than a thousand people. In addition, more than 30 deaths were attributed to EMS caused by tryptophan supplements.)


Ni yang menyebabkan saya was-was.

[ Last edited by  tasha76 at 8-6-2007 02:57 PM ]

sha_n

klau bahaye ...nape dutch lady guna erk???

ina02

yer la.... kalau bahaya kenapa dia guna.... dan tak der pun yang pertikai.....
jangan la buat saya takut.... anak saya dah lama hisap DL... susu lain dia tak nak

ThousandIsland

itu kan symptom of high intake of tryptophan supplements..
rasanya kalau amik pada dosage yg sepatutnya ia takkan jadik camtu.
kan supplements ni digunakan utk ubat depression..
so org depressed..mcm2 le yg dibuat nya..
samada nak cepat baik atau nak cepat mati.

kan ada dosej yg disarankan:

Daily requirement for different age groups is given below:
Infants up to two years: 17 mg/kg
Children 2-10 years: 12.5 mg/kg
Males and females 10-18 years: 3.3 mg/kg
Adults: 3.5 mg/kg

cam kes dlm susu DL ni aku tak rasa sampai ke situ kot..
mesti derang dah buat research and study.

takkan main redah jek..
so, bagi aku susu ni safe.

ThousandIsland

oh ye lagi satu..

Sources of tryptophan
Tryptophan, found as a component of dietary protein, is particularly plentiful in chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk, cottage, cheese, meat, fish, turkey and peanuts.

susu pun merupakan one of the TRYPs' sources..
so maknanya semua susu pun ada vitamin nih..
cuma dlm DL ni improvised..but still beyond control..
kalau penggunaannya diharamkan mesti dah lama tersebar.

well itu pada pandangan aku le..
tak tau parents lain kat sini...

ThousandIsland

oh ye lagi satu..

Sources of tryptophan
Tryptophan, found as a component of dietary protein, is particularly plentiful in chocolate, oats, bananas, dried dates, milk, cottage, cheese, meat, fish, turkey and peanuts.

susu pun merupakan one of the TRYPs' sources..
so maknanya semua susu pun ada vitamin nih..
cuma dlm DL ni improvised..but still beyond control..
kalau penggunaannya diharamkan mesti dah lama tersebar.

well itu pada pandangan aku le..
tak tau parents lain kat sini...

ceri_merah

My doter pun minum DL123. Now she's 3 yrs++.

Tadi masuk website dutch lady malaysia..
Ni explaination pasal TT-Ratio.

Tirosina adalah sejenis asid amino penting yang bertindak sebagai neurotransmiter dalam otak. Ia membantu dalam kecerdasan minda dan penyerapan informasi1.

Tryptophan juga adalah sejenis asid amino penting yang bertindak sebagai neurotransmiter dalam otak. Ia menyokong penstrukturan otak dan membantu dalam pemprosesan informasi2.

Asid-asid amino ini dirumus dalam nisbah yang spesifik mengikut umur si manja anda bagi membantu proses pembelajarannya. Dengan ini, kemampuan si manja anda menyerap dan memproses informasi akan menjadi lebih berkesan dan seterusnya menjadikan pembelajarannya lebih berkesan.

Dutch Lady adalah satu-satunya jenama susu yang mengandungi TT-Ratio

ThousandIsland

Toxicity Symptoms
What are toxicity symptoms for tryptophan?
High dietary intake of tryptophan from food sources is not known to cause any symptoms of toxicity. In addition, tryptophan has been given therapeutically, as a prescription medicine or dietary supplement, in doses exceeding five grams per day with no report of adverse effects.
However, in 1989, the use of dietary supplements containing tryptophan was blamed for the development of a serious condition called eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS), which caused severe muscle and joint pain, high fever, weakness, swelling of the arms and legs, and shortness of breath in more than a thousand people. In addition, more than 30 deaths were attributed to EMS caused by tryptophan supplements.
Many experts believe that the EMS was caused by a contaminant that was found in one batch of tryptophan sold by one manufacturer and occurred in only a small number of susceptible individuals. However, the United States Food and Drug Administration, the agency responsible for overseeing the dietary supplement industry, remained convinced that high doses of tryptophan were categorically unsafe. Since 1989, tryptophan has not been available as a dietary supplement in the United States.
To date, a Tolerable Upper Intake Level (TUL) for tryptophan has not yet been established by the Institute of Medicine at the National Academy of Sciences.

sha_n

emm..klau x safe..xkan diorg berani guna kan??
mesti safe la..

honeybee1802

cuba u hantar email kat dutch lady..ngk dia reply mcm mana....

mclaren

nak tambah, cuba tengok kat ingredients on the can, how many mg is the tryptophan. is it still within the limit macam thousandisland posted tu.

tasha76

I did check, but Im not sure coz my son does not consume Dutch Lady. About 0.21mg per 100g. If I am not mistaken.
Moms yang anak minum susu ni mesti lebih arif. Berapa ye actually?