yg ni pun 7 seater tapi kalau nak letak brg kat blkg kena lipat seat tu la...ala2 naza citra, avanza la jgk. (aku pun blm tgk, just baca artikel yg amazed paste tu je). :P
Naughtycar 5 seater lah...........
Reply #102 albob's post
kalau aku dah tentu beli RUSH...walaupun rush rwd, tapi dia long wheelbase yg selesa utk 7 seater...brand TOYOTA pulak tu...
P2 nautica walaupun 4x4, tapi ko nak ke mana sangat dengan 4x4 dia tuuu???
rasa bodoh pulak kalau beli keta P2 yg CBU dari jepun dengan RM90K++:mad: Originally posted by kakikorek at 11-5-2008 07:03 PM http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
NISSAN LIVINA macam siol.. macam bawak kereta je ..kereta wagon ..tu pun tak bagus sangat handling, dah la kecik , aku dah bawak 2 kali long distance .. , servis NISSAN pun tak bagus, banya ...
Memang org nak cari MPV yg rasa cam bawak kete, takkan nak yg rasa cam bawak van kot......;P;P;P
Reply #104 altimi's post
kakakaka...mebbe dia nak rasa macam bawak X5 ke XC90 kott???:lol: nah...jepun punye RUSH...sebijik cam Nautica....http://toyota.jp/rush/
Nih lak..brochure Daihatsu Terios Kid...http://www.daihatsu.com/catalogue/terios/download/pdf/cat_dl_003.pdf
[ Last edited bytossee at 12-5-2008 11:40 AM ] cun..tapi mahallah........ mcm ni punya harga, baik beli myvi se tu je haa.. kalau tak pun, tambah je around 20k, dah dapat perdana tu haa.. CBU. so harga keteta + tax 80% + duti ekses. tu pasal mahal. P2 pun aku rasa tak confident nak jual. tuh yang target 200 unit je sebulan.
kalu buat kat kilang produamaybe murah. atau mungkin produa tak tau nak pasang kereta nih. tu yg import je.
logo P2 tuh special order jugak kut dari jepun. 90k baik amik grand lavina... top up sket jer lgi nautica tu mmg smaller/sporty version of Rush...aku masuk rush tu mcm masuk unser. base dia pun guna avanza.
alah...korg ni, kalau la nautica tu letak logo toyota ke apa2 keta oversi, takde la korg2 komplen sgt kan?:)lagi sanggup beli Rush yg made in indon rather than nautica cbu tapi guna logo keta msia hihi;P
Reply #111 mala0n's post
nautica tu pun guna base avanza jugakkk..dah tu kena potong ekor pulak tu...tak kiralah rush tu made in zimbabwe atau papua new guinea sekalipun, tapi dengan RM90K++ worth dr segi practicality. rush 7 seater & rear wheel drive yg pastinya lebih jimat petrol dari nautica (yg entah bila nak guna 4x4 dia tu).
apa guna beli P2 yg dah sah2 rega & interest rate lebih mahal?
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Reply #112 volvomania's post
Rush tu body dier monocoque construction built on ladder frame chassis. Engine dier plak longitudinally mounted memacu tayar belakang lebih kurang kete Volvo ko jugak. Rear suspension pon live axle mcm keter KE 30...... Chassis hybrid ladder frame/monocoque NAuticahttp://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1397/P4293309.JPG
Rear suspension setup
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1397/susp.jpg RM90 ribu - baik beli kereta lain. Kereta local sampai harga mcm tu. BAIK TAK PAYAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NI ader artikel tentang live rear axle aku amik dari http://home.comcast.net/~eliot_www/suvsuck.html
High unsprung weight and live axles
A live axle is possibly the simplest and crudest way possible to connect two wheels to a body. On a driven axle it looks like a dumbell with the weight in the middle. Some nickname it the "pumpkin". You see it on most trucks and SUVs in the rear and sometimes in the front. The live axle is almost extinct in cars today, even four wheel drive ones. Why is the live axle evil? The more obvious reason is that shock that is encountered on one side is faithfully transmitted to the other. Live axled vehicles tend to be more easily upset if they hit a bump while turning.
The less well known reason, however, is that a live axle carries with it a large amount of unsprung weight. Unsprung weight is the portion of the vehicle that is not sitting on top of the suspension. Examples of unsprung components are the wheels, tires and brakes. Unsprung weight is a highly undesirable attribute in suspension design, because the more inertia the unsprung components have, the less inertia the sprung masses have to remain unperturbed over a bump. This means that with less unsprung weight the suspension is able to react faster to bumps rather than simply transmitting the shock into the cabin.
The ratio of sprung to unsprung weight is a key determining factor in how smoothly a car rides. Remember the old wisdom of how a heavier car rides better than a lighter car? The truth is that the heavier car most likely has a higher sprung to unsprung weight ratio than the lighter car. This also means that lighter cars can be made to ride better than heavier cars if they keep their unsprung weight down. And it also explains why these heavy SUVs still ride so roughly while handling so poorly compared to cars much lighter than them. They have too much unsprung weight, much of it comes from using antiquated live axles.
Compared to the modern independent suspension, a live axle has the entire differential assembly, protective casing and all final driveshafts as unsprung masses while the main driveshaft is partially sprung. All the variations of modern independent suspension only have the final driveshafts partially unsprung. The main driveshaft(s) and differential assemblies are all part of the sprung masses attached to the body. Thus one can see how much of an unsprung weight penalty there is by using a live axle.
A high performance car with measures taken to reduce unsprung weight can trade the gains in ride quality for stiffer suspension. Designers of high performance cars go to extreme lengths to reduce unsprung weight. In the Porsche 911 turbo for example, not only are the wheels made of lightweight alloy, the spokes are also hollowed out. All this in a fanatical attempt to reduce unsprung weight. Some higher priced cars have also introduced suspension components that are made of aluminum instead of steel. The aforementioned Porsche, the Audi A4 and the BMW 5 series are some examples.
With low unsprung weight one has a car capable of sizzling handling while riding reasonably. Conversely, a SUV with its high unsprung weight has to have what little handling sacrificed for a tolerable ride. The use of live axles and leaf springs can be traced back to at least 50 years ago, while the use of coil springs can be found in railroad cars dating back to the 19th century. Paying substantial money today for such inferior and crude technology is analogous to paying $3,000 for a PC powered by a 80286 CPU today. Originally posted by Bell at 13-5-2008 07:58 AM http://forum6.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
RM90 ribu - baik beli kereta lain. Kereta local sampai harga mcm tu. BAIK TAK PAYAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tu ah... baik amik honda city/toyota vios
tambah 4K dah leh dapat jazz idsi... syok sendiri!!! mahal giler..
Reply #118 generasi2's post
Tambah lagi 4 ribu dah dapat Latio Sport 1.6 interior hitam. Cun woo......:loveliness: :loveliness: :loveliness: . Wat per nak bayar 89K utk kete yg chassis/suspension design zaman tok kadok punya....... Originally posted by altimi at 13-5-2008 12:58 PM http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gifTambah lagi 4 ribu dah dapat Latio Sport 1.6 interior hitam. Cun woo......:loveliness: :loveliness: :loveliness: . Wat per nak bayar 89K utk kete yg chassis/suspension design zaman tok kadok puny ...
chassis & susupension setup camni robust...lebih tahan kalau ada side impact(T-bone) atau accident. orang cakap boleh tukar 'kotak' je. ladder chasis mmg utk SUV/pickup untuk lebih strength...
kereta sekarang memang kena pakai monocoque chassis sebab senang nak claim insuran total lost. kalau accident repair balik pun body keta dah senget & kiat, jalan macam ketam. lagipun keta sekarang nak bagi ringan sebab petrol mahal...heheheh
safety? gagal! :)